The Universe Is Not "Logical"

Then let us logically think of what is logical. Then come to the conclusion that logic is illogical. From this, we exit the confounds of our minds and see logic from a more logical point of view.

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Logic is creating the fact that the universe is the theory of infinity. Must I remind you infinity does not exist, it is a theory used to describe the evergrowing amount of something that will never stop growing. Such as, a dog. A dog's growth is not infinite. If infinity were for a small period of time, a dog's growth would be infinite for a small amount of time. Infinity is supposedly "forever" and can not and WILL not stop, as mathematicians provide for us. As we create new numbers, such as, someone needed to create 100 decidillion, we create new numbers everyday, and we use infinity to describe that fact. The universe has been going on for about...14.6 to 14.8 billion years. The Earth itself is much younger than that, and if we were in another galaxy, as Sythe says, time would be different, and it would not be 14.6 to 14.8 billion years ago the universe was created. It would be higher or lower depending on your exact coordinates in the universe. As the sun is 93 million miles away, it take around 4 and a half minutes for the light to come here. If the sun burnt out, which I personally think is plausible, considering that hydrogen nor helium in the sun is infinite, then it would take 4 and a half minutes for the darkness to reach earth. Also, many physics teachers say that there are an infinite amount of dimensions, saying that there is an infinite amount of possibilities in the whole entire entirety of the existence of everything. Saying that, in one dimension, Sythe could be chopping up his keyboard with a floppy carrot, and i love drugs would be ripping a wooden chair with his 6 extra hands he doesn't have in this dimension. I'm not trying to be funny, I'm dead serious. There are a finite amount of possibilities but the existence of everything must handle maybe everything that could ever happen in the universe at once.

 

Please do not spam in the intelligent board. It just...isn't right. I don't understand how the universe would be illogical. As I stated in my other post, physics teachers say that there are infinite dimensions, with infinite possibilities. If there was, maybe we started out from the dimension that had something that created the big bang. I personally believe that two dimension were closing in on eachother, and they collided. BIG BANG! New Universe.

 

We don't know, that's what the word "Theory" is for. If we knew how dimensions create themselves, such as researching with the Large Hadron Collider, we would be able to know these facts. Simple enough, my theory is that dimensions bounce around in the existence of everything. Some sort of place where new dimensions are created, and others are destroyed. Somehow, one propelled itself into another, and created a new dimension. I have nothing to back this up, although, scientists are currently doing research on the subject. Just because I don't have enough evidence is enough to prove that I'm wrong, I know, but it's a theory, and that's what theories are for. The universe is most likely going to stop expanding sometime, therefore, it is not infinite. That is also a theory. You see what I'm getting at, Scythe? Theories are meant to be. I don't have any idea of how dimensions collide, it's in my theory. Something that is illogical can not be explained by logic. The infinity theory is logical. The universe is home to billions, maybe trillions or even quadrillions of galaxies. How does it hold all this? It has been expanding for over 14.6 billion years. That's how. What else about the universe cannot be explained by logic?



The·o·ry - 1. Theory, hypothesis are used in non-technical contexts to mean an untested idea or opinion. A theory in technical use is a more or less verified or established explanation accounting for known facts or phenomena: the theory of relativity. A hypothesis is a conjecture put forth as a possible explanation of phenomena or relations, which serves as a basis of argument or experimentation to reach the truth: This idea is only a hypothesis. - Taken from www.Dictionary.com

 

Also, light travels faster in a vacuum medium than in an air medium. I believe your estimation is incorrect. And there has been no proven fact that gravity has even a small amount of effect on light.

 

I completely agree it is not logical, our idea of logicality can be summarized by nothing is just there, your just on the earth you were created by an existing thing, everything must have a creator in one way or another or events that lead to the moment of thing existing, nothing just HAPPENS.

 

No, it is not a fallacy. There are two options: A. The universe has always been or B. The universe was created and has a starting point. There are no other options or any other possibilities. So he is not using a fallacy, and neither of these options are logical. Therefore, logic cannot be used to prove everything.

 

There most certainly are NOT any other options. Either the universe has always been, or it has a starting point. Neither choice follows the rules of logic.

I said logic cannot be used to prove EVERYTHING, not ANYTHING.

 

Ha, yea I get it now. I should have used a different word than prove I guess. You win, as always.

 

That is not true. Cause and effect, right? No. Things can just happen. How would it rain in the middle of summer, with no clouds in the sky, and maybe even snow. That happened one day a couple of years ago. How does it hail in Florida? I don't know, but it happened.

 

The problem is not time can't exist without matter, the problem is matter can't exist without time. If time did not exist, then nothing else would exist. If you stopped time, nothing else would ever happen, in this dimension, of course. I've made many calculations, and I've quadruple checked them. Put it on a timer, and, obviously, if time stopped, the timer wouldn't work nor would anything else.

 

According to Science, 99% of the Universe is "Nothing".

The problem with humans trying to understand this situation is that, if we assume the universe to have had a beginning, there must have been nothing beforehand.

What is the difference between the "Nothing" that fills our universe (AKA, Space) and the "Nothing" that came before space existed?

It is beyond our brains to imaging everything in the universe to be compacted into the pre-big-bang one-dimensional "Dot", because we percieve the world in three dimensions.
We cannot imagine a situation where all of our three dimensional world is compressed into one, and there is NOTHING outside.