[APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

I think several things should be removed, as explained in other threads.

This just leads people to get scammed due to the trust words being misused. Some people have shiny ranks some don't, some people have thousands if not hundreds of thousands of vouches (literally) and some don't, it really varies on the person who is dealing with you if they feel you are trusted or a certain requirement that they meet to begin with.

I agree little Skitty.

 

No Support

Although I'm with PR, It doesn't mean that I would put [PR] in my threads titles. I don't see why people can't put that in the title. It shows an achievement. Not a massive one compared to [10k+ Vouches] or [$50K Traded] but none the less its a fact.
If you're concerned that it portrays trust then thats up to the buyer, it doesn't really show any trust at all from my own prospective. I think you're picking at nothing and if it gets approved then you should remove any ex-Mod out of your titles too.

 

absolutely support, everyone will use any status they can get to gain trust nowadays

 

There seems to be a recent trend of wanting to remove achievements people have earned in the past because new members don't have them i see no reason for them to not be able to use it in there titles degree of trust is on the buyer and honestly looking at people like @Bolt @ABM it does show dedication to the site and if the smallest thing they get for all the free work they do is an additional title in there threads what does it matter.

 

support if it includes all other positional titles like mod/admin/etc. The exception being OMM. Staff from all levels get denied to become OMM. It is a difficult process as we all know and they are at the top of this site in terms of monetary trust.

make only OMM allowed to use their rank as a selling point/sign of trust, or leave it as is. tbh dont think its that big of a deal anyway

 

Haha the amount of CDT reps that have scammed because of their title is so beyond me. Support, but then I'd support that OMM or Staff cannot have it in their title either. It should be one way or another

 

The only rank that is a sign of trust is OMM, the rest are purely community related. Yet, community involvement usually means they're not here to scam but here for the long-term, which is why people take it as a sign of trust. Leave as is. If someone scams with a CDT/PR/TC rank, they'll scam regardless and likely for the same amount. Really wouldn't have much of an effect I bet.

 

The underlying difference is that staff titles are one of the few perks they get for all their contributions. This can also be said for the community teams, however, staff ranks for all intents and purposes, supersede and outweigh community ranks. As such, this can be deemed as a benefit and perk solely available to them if need be.

Staff and community teams are two totally seperate ranks and positions.

I personally am indifferent to whether community teams should be permitted to use their ranks within their titles, but community teams and staff ranks are mutually exclusive, and one carries far more weight than the other - from a regular users perspective

Also agree with @Dunworry.

 

Interestingly enough, I had a few people choose my services over others because I was a CDT member. Was it because I show community involvement? Maybe. However, it could've also been because I simply have an extra title in my name.

 

what does Special Victims Unit have to do with this? or is it something else?

 

No support, the pr and cdt as memed as they are, are elected as representatives of the community. They literally have to be trusted to be given those roles, so why shouldnt they be allowed to express that lol? dumb suggestion tbh

 

If you support this then surely you support not being allowed to use:
[EX MOD]
[EX ADMIN]
[EX CEO OF MICROSOFT]
[BALD]
Just because you "used" to be a member of staff and "were" a trusted staff member doesn't mean you should still reap the trust benefits after the fact and definitely doesn't deserve to be in titles. CDT and PR probably should not be allowed to put their ranks in their titles based on TRUST but the issue definitely goes a lot deeper than that.... Realistically with that logic the only rank allowed in titles based on Monetary trust should be [OMM] as its a direct representation of that.



Now lets get into the MAJOR FLAW in the assumption many of you have made... How do you know people put CDT/PR in their titles for added trust? Perhaps its more of a representation that if the customer chooses to work with someone of the CDT/PR team they will experience above average customer service. I know I constantly find myself looking for and going back to sites/restaurants/businesses with exceptional customer service who may be a bit pricier... don't you?

 

I'm not a huge fan of people using non-staff or OMM roles such as PR and CDT as a display of trust. However, I see how either side can support having it or not. Someone running a RS forum's social media accounts for me isn't a sign of trust. If a trader's selling point in their goods or services are simply that they are a CDT or PR member, then they have other things to worry about.

At the end of the day, CDT and PR are community roles and aren't really a proven measure of trust. One can argue being a staff member is the same way, but then again, you're also being trusted with a significant amount of private information. The only real tag that has proven so-called trust is OMM and/or having a good chunk of vouches.

I would support being disallowed to use CDT/PR/TC in titles but then again, I don't think it's that big of an issue because ultimately, it comes back on the other party trusting that they will receive goods/services. There's still other things that need to be done in order to make sure things such as scamming don't occur.

 

can you guys also included TC in your responses. Please don’t leave them out. Thanks

 

People comparing community ranks to that of staff ranks are missing the key point that staff > community teams.

Staff being able to have their status/ranks within thread titles is ultimately a perk of being a current staff member/ex-staff member. It's one of the rewards they get for all their dedication towards this forum.

Yes, community teams are also dedicated, however, we all know that many users use community teams as a stepping stone to get noticed towards ultimately becoming a staff member, and as such, the benefits and perks of being staff should always outweigh and supersede that of community teams. I know that not everyone has this indicative plan / goal, however, even solely based on merit and heirarchy, staff perks should always be > community team perks.

There are also other elements to being staff which (naturally) put them above community team members.

1. Community teams are far, far, far easier to be accepted into, than being promoted to a position of staff is.
2. Staff members handle far more pertinent issues, opposed to that of community team members.
3. Staff have access to crucial personal information.
4. Staff actually do maintain a position of power - i.e, banning people, power to vote on pardons, anti-scams, and so on...there are many other elements.
5. The level of scrutiny once faces from the staff team prior to being accepted is not even a conversation point within community teams. - this is a huge factor.

Also, to note, I was in the CDT for 2 years, and similarly, I was on staff for around 2-3 years. So, my perspective envelopes both aspects of said positions.

Ultimately, I'm indifferent towards community teams being allowed to state their rank within their titles. However, suggesting that if said community teams are not able to advertise their ranks within their titles, then staff should not be able to also, is just silly.

 

Personally don't see much of an issue, if they wanna put it in their thread, why not, it's an achievement and doesn't reflect much more trust, other than show their involvment in the community team. The staff thing that started this post I'd agree with, but that seemed to be a joke from ABM.

 

support

Even trying to call PR or CDT a "staff member" is just wrong.
People have their own definition of the work staff here apparently, but it's been clear that CDT and PR are considered staff but recently with new people in these functions it they claim it is.

The staff of sythe are people who work for sythe, moderating the forum and making sure rules are being kept in place.
The other TEAMS of sythe work towards promoting sythe, making sure it's out there and people are engaged with each other.
These are 2 way different things and here already you can see the word choice of staff and team. A team does not equal a staff.


And for the people saying that putting in CDT or PR in their title isn't used for trust but purely for showing off, then put it in a thread where there is no need for trust, not on a thread where newcomers rely on trust to chose you.

 

Nah I don’t think stating that you’ve got a certain rank in your thread title is an issue lol