RussianUMad

Scammer's profile link: RussianUmad

Explain the service: Quests for my 50 attack pure.

Spoiler: PMs

Amount scammed: N/A; I asked the user to keep 50 attack on the account; they misunderstood/skipped over the PM & the account currently has 52 attack.

Spoiler: GIF

Proof that it's their Discord or Skype: N/A; Used Sythe PMs

Discord ID + Unique Discord ID or Skype profile ID & conversation pictures: used Sythe PMs

Proof that the service was not completed:

Please refer to the GIF.

To further explain this situation , I had contacted the seller @RussianUmad to complete all of the skilling, and quests for my 50 attack pure. As you can see from the initial PMs I had asked for a complete 60 attack pure package. (before the service started). I was finishing 98-99 magic when I had initially contacted him. Once my pure was complete, I had contacted him again asking him to keep the pure 50 attack, and 1 defense. (it seems he skipped over this message/misread it.)

I completely understand that mistakes happen, but I have spent 2 months creating this account, and I'm very disappointed of the outcome of this.

Also, on his service thread he shows a pure package with a list of quests. In my initial PM, I was referring to receiving this package, but I guess this was another part missed. He stated today that I'd have to pay an additional 10m for this quest to be completed.;

Spoiler: Pure package

I completely understand mistakes happen, but I'm just disappointed. I have ceased the service and would like a refund at this point.

 

I'm going to lay out my train of thought on how I approached the matter. This isn't a passive aggressive attempt or anything of that sort.

1) You've ordered a 60atk pure package with a list of packages included and Ava's wasn't named in it as seen here
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2) I priced each package that you named in the list above to show the list of packages that i will be doing and Ava's wasn't included in my price as it was not mentioned nor told about it until just now so naturally it wasn't planned to be done as seen here.
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3) I have said that I can get MM done without gaining the exp AFTER ( the training exp), I didn't mention that i can ignore the attack exp from the subquests as seen here
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4) I've been instructed to do MM package with 60 att then it was later changed to 50att with MM package. This is a little confusing as I'm not capable of glitching the game and skipping the attack exp rewards from both MM subquests. Customer must either have finished the subquests himself before gaining 50 attack then ask for MM to be completed without gaining attack exp or not ask for MM service. Majority of the pures who order from me (which are alot so I'm speaking from experience) are educated in these matters but Unfortunately Time crunch didn't play for some time so he wasn't aware as seen here
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5) There was no possible way for me to complete MM without gaining attack exp and Since he did mention before that he wanted a 60tt and even though it was changed later to 50th, I thought he must've forgot what he wanted or got confused as it happens a lot with my customers.

6) I didn't miss click to lvl 2 defence or get 52 attack by accident, I just did what i was instructed to be done (vaguely) to the best of my ability. Now its of course unfortunate that this is the out come and I'm sorry that this isn't what he had planned for but I don't see grounds for refund as what was ordered is what I did besides the 50 attack part as it contradicts the order itself so I'm not sure what can be done atm besides finishing the order itself.

I will wait till a moderator replies to this as I've a lot of other things to attend to. Feel free to message me on Skype/Discord if I don't respond quick enough.

 

Regarding this, I said in my initial statement that I wanted a FULL pure package. Which can be seen here, once again. "The whole works for a pure"

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You can refer back to my statement on topic 1).

Yes, you are correct; but as someone who does services for other people, you should expect that some people might not know/remember the fine details. As I stated, I haven't completed these quests in ages, so I wasn't aware of the xp gain for the sub-quests. As someone who is selling a specific service (questing) I feel that you should be more knowledgeable. It was confusing to me, because I told you to skip out on mm1 because I wanted to stay 50 attack for now. Unfortunately you insisted to do mm1 . (you should've at least checked the account to make sure the sub-quests were done before handing the account off to a third-party so you would be 100% sure the account would not gain attack xp.

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I had initially said I wanted a 60 attack package. (keep in mind this was 2 DAYS prior to ordering the actual service.) Once I actually ordered the serivce, and sent the account details I told to please keep the account 50 attack, and 1 defense.

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THIS is when I had ordered the service, so this is what you should've gone by for this order. [/QUOTE]

You should be well aware by now that some customers will be less knowledgeable on the service you provide. This should have been explained beforehand to end all confusion.

I'm sorry, but nothing I stated in the PMs was vague. I clearly stated (on the actual order PM when I sent the account details) that I wanted you to keep the account 50 attack, and 1 defense.

Spoiler

 

Whyd you pay him exact price of the list though (mm1 included). I can see why there’d be some confusion for him when you say no mm1 but still pay for it (he still should have confirmed). Then you expect avas when it wasnt part of list that you clearly read because you paid exact amount. Not saying @RussianUmad is not wrong, but you’re trying to milk the situation like crazy by acting like a clueless victim. If his english isn’t the best either, it’s understandable that he’d misinterpret something when you throw two contradicting requests at him. (Still should have clarified)

 

Since you’re not involved, I’m going to ask you not to comment. But since you did comment, I will reply to you.

To start things off, this was the first questing service I have purchased on the site; I don’t normally have people I don know quest my accounts. When I said “I want a pure package” and “the whole works for a pure” that to ME means every quest pures generally quest. He had a PURE package. He should have known what I was referring to. Regarding the MM; it is HIS job to be knowledgeable in what he is selling, otherwise fuck ups like this will happen. OBVIOUSLY I was unaware of the sub-quests giving xp. Nothing was further explained. All he said was that HE CAN DO IT. Obviously I said it’s okay for him to do it because he has 700+ vouches and you would expect him to check the account prior to make sure everything would go down without a hitch. Unfortunately, he didn’t check the account. Unfortunately, he didn’t explain anything to me. Unfortunately, he never told me, & never stated ANYWHERE on his thread that he has a third party quest for him.

Also, I’m not sure if you’re blind, or if you’re just as negligent as @RussianUmad . I CLEARLY stated that I wanted him to keep the account 50 attack BEFORE work started. This was when I ORDERED the service. ANY other person who is an experienced quester would have checked the account for its stats + quests completed to make sure the quests offered wouldn’t make the account gain xp in areas the customer said NOT TO.

Also, I’m sorry you feel I’m “milking” the system; but if you’re going to offer a service, especially a service for a pure, or another custom build, you better know your shit. I put trust into him to keep my account as I wanted it. If he was confused on the order in any way, he should have made the effort to contact ME. Instead he just outsourced the work. Sorry, that’s pretty shitty.

 

TLDR:
0) Nothing was outsourced (same retarded point dbuffed brought up)
1) You're new to this game, have zero account building knowledge and even admitted to not knowing these 2 quests gave attack Exp.
2) You ASKED for MM1 done and PAID for it and now you're crying because you should've done your research better.
3) I Stated that only the AFTER exp MM1 (The training exp) is the one I'm not getting (again because of your poor game knowledge you didn't understand anything)
4) You can't ask for a refund on something that you paid for and got done. You asked for MM1 and MM1 was delivered.
5) My obligation as a Quester is to finish the order and not scam anyone. I'm not obligated to teach you how to build accounts properly or explain anything to you.
6) You seem to be throwing "he should've known" out a lot. If a questing package isn't priced, then why would i do it? You expect me to do it and predict how much you're willing to pay for it? You expect me to not do MM11 when you asked for it?



This whole report is a fiasco and a waste of my time. I was asked to do a series of quests and I delivered. Confusion on his part and poor in game and account knowledge is not something I'm liable to or responsible for. If you want me to teach you how to build a proper account then feel free to message me anytime you want but don't go around purchasing something you've no clue what it's about then cry after it gets done.

 

TLDR?? You didn’t read?? Here we go again, your negligence is clearly aparent. I was CLEAR with you of my intentions on the account BEFORE you started work. You DID outsource the work because YOU DIDN’T complete the work yourself. Hence “my quester”.

You can say what you want on the situation, but the proof is in the pudding. You have a report against you for being negligent, & you’re responding with the same stupid shit after not even reading what I’ve said? I’m not sure if you have a mental disconnect, or if you’re just a douche bag. Instead of taking the time to work out what YOU messed up on, you’re attacking my account building/questing skills. Something I hired YOU to do. Don’t you think I would do it myself if I had the knowledge?

I pay anyone who completes work for me VERY well. I give tips often; if you think this report is against you because I don’t want to pay, you’re wrong. This report is to bring awareness to the community on how you conduct your service. Don’t have time to read what I’ve said in a report against you? Did you not have time to read the instructions I gave you for the account before you started work?

Also, you can refer back to the images I’ve provided for the MM package. I initially requested MM, but then changed my mind because I wanted to keep the 50 attack build. YOU said that you can still complete MM anyways. As someone who didn’t know the sub-quests gave xp, I said it was ok for you to do.

You can turn this on me, and insult my account building skills, but your negligence and lack of care for the customer is apparent.

 

Now that I'm on my computer, I can provide more context on the situation.

Here is my initial PM:

Spoiler: Initial PM

As you can see from the date, this was sent on September 30th. I did not give account details until October 2nd. (2 days after the initial PM).

Here is when I had changed my mind to keep the account 50 attack:

Spoiler: Decided to keep 50 attack

Still 2 DAYS prior to him receiving the account details. I also told him that I don't need mm1 now because I thought it gives xp. The very next PM @RussianUmad said this:

Spoiler: Saying he can do mm1 w/o xp.

"I can do mm1 without getting exp after" As someone who hasn't quested in years, I don't remember the fine details or rewards for certain quests. I initially stated as shown above that I didn't want to complete mm1 now, but @RussianUmad said that he could do it w/o getting xp. As someone who doesn't quest, I thought he could do this like he said.

I told him the account will not be ready for 2 days as I was finishing 98-99 magic; this can be seen here:

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The NEXT message sent to him was infact 2 DAYS later with the INSTRUCTIONS for the account, aswell as with the account details.

Spoiler: Order

When I found out the attack was leveled I pm'd him here:

Spoiler: Attack was leveled.

His response to me was that he didn't READ aka *sorry bro, I was negligent and fucked up.*

Spoiler: Didn't READ??

You mean.. you weren't sure about something, and you didn't ask for clarification after I was VERY clear on my intentions? My final instructions for you was to keep the account 50 attack, and 1 defense. If you were uncertain about ANYTHING you should have checked the account before handing it off to your quester aka *third party*

Spoiler: Quester *THIRD PARTY*

Once again, we are back to the "I'm sorry bro, I *FIGURED* it was do-able. I didn't check the account, but most of my customers know prior to ordering." Really?? You figured it was do-able , but didn't check to make sure??

The bottom line is that you're negligent. Your trading practices are horrible. How can you NOT read the instructions I left you?? It was on the SAME message as the account details. There really is no excuse.

 

1) Initial pm was a joke. Asking for 60att build
2) Changes his mind to 50 attack but still wants mm1 done (pays for it) while not having his attack quested (poor game knowledge)
3) Tells me he doesn't want MM1 done and I said i can get it done without gaining the exp you receive AFTER ( you can see that i said the after exp), which is exactly what i did. Nothing was mentioned about the prequests anywhere.
4) This is what he said after the account got 52 attack (basically he admits its a misunderstanding because what he ordered contradicted what he wants)
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5) Then this happens (confused, changes his mind every minute)
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5) There was nothing clear about your intentions, that's just stupid to say and anyone who reads this report will say the same. You're asking for mm1 done while remaining 50 attack on an account thats built wrong. You were also expecting Avas to be done when it wasnt priced and you didnt even mention it before, LOL.
6) One of the perks of being the most successful questing service running on Sythe is that you employ others to assist you in handling your business. Its not called "outsourcing" besides the problem wasn't with who has done the questing, because he did his job properly and to the fullest.
7) I am only liable to finish orders and not scam anyone. You seem to think I'm your RS Coach.

"This was my first time purchasing questing on sythe" "He should've known" "He didn't tell me" "I expected him" all excuses to cover up the fact that you were confused about what you ordered and calling me negligent when really you're the one who's negligent and lazy to do a 10 min google research on what you want.

 

You resort to the same excuses time and time again. I've stated everything I have to say, so I won't go back on what I've said.

You're absolutely right! The problem is not with the worker. The problem is YOU. You admitted to not READING my FINAL Instructions.

*pays for it* because the person who quests accounts for a living said he can still *do it* without gaining *xp*.

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. I told you exactly what I wanted. I may have changed my mind BEFORE you started work, but that doesn't excuse you from the fact that you didn't READ my instructions as you implied in PMs.

I wrote this because I just wanted to finish the questing, and I wasn't going to file a report on you. I give people second chances; I then started to talk to different people regarding the situation, and they all said to file a report. So no, I don't "change my mind every minute". (not to mention the worker still had a bunch of quests to finish).

I've said all I need to and will wait for a moderator response.
Thanks.

 

Btw, you're not allowed to use someone else to complete the order until this report is resolved.

 

I've got it covered, thanks. Quests have been left alone & I've been the only one on the account. Just looking for someone who is capable at following instructions.

 

Ye, good luck finding someone who can read confused minds, and follow traps, whoops, i mean "Instructions" or someone with a magic crystal ball who can predict a hidden quest that you want done :L.
"Hi I want b gloves on my unquested 45 def while staying 45 def, also I'd like to order another quest package but I'm not guna say what it is, let the games begin"

 

I'm sorry, but my final instructions were more than clear. but then again, it doesn't help when you don't even READ the fucking INSTRUCTIONS.
Must I remind you??

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You asked me not to do MM because you didn't want the exp from MM and I said I will not get the exp from MM AFTER the quest. Not before. Not from the prequests. Just the MM quest. Its your fault for not READING what I said and for not doing your research and expecting different results. What I said will be done was done.
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Practice what you preach in the future


You're confused yourself by your lack of knowledge in this game and its hilarious how you're still defending yourself even though
you admitted you didn't know what you were getting yourself into and was expecting someone to babysit you through it or must I remind you
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You're too lazy/negligent to do a 10 min google search. Even you admitted it was a miss understanding because you know you made a mistake by not doing your research or must i remind you.
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Over 800+ questing orders done, never met someone who owns a pure account who didn't know what quests he wanted and expects me to use a crystal ball to predict and read his mine then calls his shitty vague statements as "instructions".

 

Here, since I've already explained everything, let me write this in retard terms so you can understand what I'm saying.

I asked you NOT to do MM because I wasn't sure if it gave XP. YOU said you can do it w/o the xp. YOU were VAGUE in explaining it. I agreed to do it because I put TRUST into YOU to follow the INSTRUCTIONS I gave YOU. Remember? The INSTRUCTIONS you DIDN'T READ?

Spoiler: ???

Once again you're trying to twist MY words to benefit YOU. (I sent this before I knew that you didn't READ my last INSTRUCTIONS. I felt bad for not only you, but for me since you fucked up an account I worked on for 2 MONTHS due to YOUR neglect.)

Once again, I said this because I thought you had READ my fucking INSTRUCTIONS. Don't try to twist my words.

What the fuck is VAGUE about "Please keep my account 50 attack and 1 defense" ??
Fucking Christ.

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Again, you're confused. Whats Vague about that I'm not going to get exp after quest? Once again, its your own fault for not knowing what you're purchasing and still making the purchase. Didn't even do a one minute google search on MM1.

Ye right, you felt bad. But then decided not to feel bad after 5 mins? Nope. You knew it was your mistake but then decided to try to get me to pay for it hence why you changed your mind (again lol).

No ones twisting any words. If I was in your situation or anyone else for that matter and I 100% believed it was the questers mistake, I wouldn't say "its a miss understanding" unless evidently I know its my mistake and I'm just trying to take advantage of the situation which is exactly what happening.

You agreed to MM1 being completed without the EXP AFTER. No agreements were made on anything else. I said my piece and you agreed. Case closed. Also I'm not under any obligation to explain anything to you at all whatsoever.
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This is what you agreed on and this is what i delivered. Recommend using eyes to read what you type in the future. I completed my part of the deal. Not responsible for your negligence.

 

Take your advice and run. I'm done replying because the same shit is being spewed over, and over again. You can twist what you'd like, but you fucked up. My instructions were clear as day. You admitted to not reading them. Your trading practices are horrendous.

Take a walk before you dig your hole deeper.

 

This is all I need Screenshot - a24bdab63c5c58a2684ccea4d512bd5f - Gyazo
And I appreciate your concern over my trading practices but I do not need advise from new comers.
You can use this free time you have to educate yourself. Heres step 1
Monkey Madness I

 

No, but you do need "Advice". What good are instructions if you dont read them?
& thanks, I'll check it out.