The Existence of God

Hilarious. Why would I watch an hour long video created by religious nutfags when I could be doing something I enjoy? Besides, I do happen to have a download quota. Provide me with a creation from neutrality and I will reconsider using needed monthly downloads.

Proof? That's no proof at all. It doesn't take a genius to see why.

To answer your question of "Who created us?", such knowledge is far beyond anything we humans now possess. It would be folly to believe that the human race could find an answer. It would also be folly to believe in something created for a makeshift answer by primitive human beings.

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All of that aside, hear what else I have to say.

Learn some fucking grammar and spelling, kid. It pains me to read your posts. You try and act intelligent, yet you still use perversions of the English language used by 9 year old girls in Messenger to sound 'cool'. U is not a word. It is a letter. 'Neva' isn't a word either, the real word is 'never'. 'And' is only used more than once in a single sentence if it is implied to sound different.

If you wish to put up an argument or at least sound intelligent, you need to learn the basics, kid. What you say is 'proof' is just more propaganda, which has holes and flaws that anyone with a right mind can spot.

Edit: To the guy above my post.

You honestly need to learn that what you posted is considered spam. You posted nothing of use to this thread. You posted a knock-back question that contradicts anything towards your case. Have you not read the enormous number of times we have said "The burden of proof is on believers, and believers alone"? We don't try to prove anything, because to put it in Shredderbeam's very own words: "Something that does not exist cannot provide proof of its non-existence". Therefore you like many others are the ones that need to answer the questions. We are simply asking them. Why do you believe and what proof do you have?

 

First : U can't talk about it unless u know wat is in it .
Second : U asked for a proof and I brought u more than 1
Third : I said watch one of them or even 20 minuts from anyone of them . If u don't have 20 minuts , So Why r u here and asked for a proof . Do u want me to prove God Existence in 1 word and u know that he is there in 1 second .WIERD

How come u say its not a proof at all while u didn't even watch 1 minute in it .

Its not that far and that is wat I'm trying to prove here .It wasn't answered by primitave human . It was answered by A book which no one can challenge until 2day.
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I have already said that ( 10000 times ) my mother tongue isn't English . I learned it so I try to transfere my point as hard as I can . And that is the same reason made me brought that videos as I can't do it with my faken English .

I don't think I'm the one who isn't sound intelligent . U keep saying things without any proves . U said videos are rubbish while u didn't watch them . I think u r the one who need to learn how to argue . U should study all materials ur challenge gave to u then answer. Not answering while u hasn't done anything .

Noob . U do it again . Ask for a proof and when I introduce it to u . U say there is not time . Then Why did u ask for it .

 

I'm 100% with kher0 here. You athiest's don't have any proof; everytime us believers say their is a god, you say their isn't. We put proof infront of you, but you keep arguing on about it saying that it isn't proof. The Holy Quran is the proof. It has EVERYTHING a man needs to learn about.

How does a Sperm cell find it's way to the egg? It doesnt have any intelligence what so ever. So their must be a greater power behind it all, and that power is Allah!

 

Without arguing the point, the thought of the universe being here and just existing for that fact is daunting (whether we are talking about a re-occurring[bad spelling] big bang, or just one [w/e]). I do believe in god, but then that brings up the question 'where did he (yes he) come from?', and just saying that he has been and always been is the same as the first question raised.

also:

Don't put everything to god, he doesn't tell a sperm where to go, or a virus how to attach itself to a host, i believe that god did create us, but doesn't interfere with every aspect, but watches over i.e. HE DOESN'T CONTROL INSTINCT!

 

I have asked myself this question. I think Our mind have limits and this beyond our minds. We won't know the answer until we die or meet god .

Its very big and solid proof but I didn't depend on it only . I brought videos destroy the Evaluation theory and prove god existence , Then I brought videos to prove god existence with science only. I don't want anyone to say to me that I depend on one thing only like Quraan .

I'm sorry but believing in god comes from he created every single thing . knows wat will happen . U can say that science and things like that and use physics to explain this . No problem with that but in the same way , If god wants all the water to be dirty ( unused able ) or clear the sun then he can do it easily . So he control everything and we should use science to prove his existence not the opposite .

 

Its a fucking fairy tale book dipshit. Why don't I write a book that says theres a giant fucking gorilla orbiting Saturn and say that it is absolute truth?

Rofl. You're correct, the almighty Allah-fag guides it straight to the egg.
Right.

 

Well this isn't going to be cold hard facts.
I'd really rather just post my view on "god" and religion.

I was baptised Catholic, and I went to church when I was little until my parent got divorced when I was about 6. No one knows what to believe at that age, so yes I did believe in "God" for a long time because that's just the way I was raised. As I got older my family stopped going to church and never discussed religion really. I figured well my life is going fine, why should I believe in a greater power? I don't believe there is a "god" or any sort of great power now. I guess I just realized that we are just apes that evoled with mutation and natural selection, and I don't mind that because we are the smartest organisms on the planet now.

On the other hand there is nothing wrong with believing in something. I think some sorts of religions help, such as Buddhism by telling people to live by the golden rule and have good morals. I really dislike Christianity because of the way it has made it's way into the government, and it the way the bible tries to tell you how to live.

Heaven does sound like a nice place though, I wouldn't mind going there when I die. Most likely though my ashes will just sit in a pot somewhere.

 

This is a very good point. The idea of God was created back in the early dawn of civilization to promote being kind to others, and not to do harmful things to one another.

 

Common sense.

 

I'm Christian and I go to church every few times a month.

I believe in God but it's not like i'm very religious. I go on all holidays and every other Sunday.

I think there's a God bottom line.

 

I don't believe in a god at all. The idea of some mystical being watching over and guiding us all just sounds way to fucked up for me.

Also, we're brought up to believe in something that has direct proof. I don't see any direct proof of gods anywhere.. I think things happen for a reason, but.. I don't think that things happen because "God" guided us. If that makes sense.

 

I seem to remember that the burden of proof is upon you. I could care less how existence came to be (which is an oxymoron? Existence can not "come to be"), where you accuse us of blasphemy for not bowing to the churches. What of the primitive races, such as the ancient Egyptians, who worshiped Ra, or the sun. Those beliefs were proven wrong with science, why should yours be any different?

Kher0, the first step to making intelligent English sentences is to spell the words correctly. I suggest you spend some time working on it. Regardless of whether or not it is your mother tongue, I strongly dislike perversions of language that then make what I'm reading look like it's come from a primary school student (I dislike using age at all, however most of this group do use bad structure).

Second, I didn't watch most of the video because it has a strong religious base. You cannot "disprove" a belief with your own, the aspect has to be that of neutral beliefs, otherwise it's just "So basically summing it up, my God exists, REPENT." Such is why I pass it as propaganda. It isn't proof at all; I require tangible evidence of such an entity before I even consider believing what you are trying to say.

A book, whatever it be, is not enough evidence. Be it the Qurran or the Bible, I extremely doubt their validity.

Religious nuts always say one thing with no backing: "God made it happen." Quite funny, really.

Summing it up: the burden of proof is upon you. So far, no-one has provided any acceptable proof at all.

 

That is literally the best answer I have seen.

May Allah forgive you're sins. Allah Guides everything. Allah can do no wrong. Allah has no partners or equal, he is One. Allah isn't inneed of us, but we are inneed of him.

 

If u want to have rational argument ur welcome. If this is ur best then may I show u the door?

Check Page 42 if u have time

I agree with u in this 100% but believe me. I do my best.

I said be4 , it doesn't depend on any religion and they all depend on science facts only. I swear that none of these videos depend on religion. All about scientific facts. Give me any video that said that in our religion or anything like that.
Example: The collapse of Evolution video. First it talked about Darwin and his book. Then they talked about mistakes in it and they got proofs on every mistake. Finally, they introduced atheists themselves and asked them to explain. Even if referrals was from Atheists books like (Origin Of Life). Now please tell me where the religion or religious ppl in this is.

So, I didn't talk about Quraan only. I have to make ppl believe in God be4 talking about Quraan. Although I disagree with u about it being evidence but I didn't depend on it only. I talked about it for a simple reason. How can u explain the miracles in it?. BTW , Bible isn't like Quraan .
Its one of the biggest proofs on god existence as No human can make something like this. This is all but its not the only material I depended on. BTW, If u knew that no human can get something like this , Then u will know its from God. So , God Here .
It’s a solid proof which u can touch, see and hold.

Where did u get that from?
Example: The collapse of Evolution video. They proved that this theory is wrong and then they asked very simple question. Who can do something like this and they let u to answer.

My Comment on this: Are u blind?

Proofs:
1-Collapse of Atheism and Evolution give us a question:
Who created us as these were bullshits? (Destroying wat u say its our creation)
2-Nature and creation (Science proofs)
3-Man and creation (More of science Proof)
4-Quraan as a miracle.(Good Challenge to get something like this)

Wat do u want me to do as a proof? Do u want me to get a picture of Allah while we were created? :S. If this wat u want then I'm sorry as I'm not able to do that and u will neva know until its too late to believe in him.

Note : From now and on His name will be Allah Not God as God is popular like zeus ............etc . Allah is only one and this is his name

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This is my understanding of way that people decide whether god exists is:

Yes ) People see science, think that it is not possible for something so advanced as DNA and evolution and the like. And then decide that for all of this to happen, there has to be some kind of divine intervention, a magical force that creates all this. Thus to explain this almost unexplainable and difficult to see how this could have happen science, they decided to believe that this was done by a God who has the power to do anything.

No ) People understand and trust in science. Then when thinking about a magical being such as God that has all these powers but realises that a self-creating being that is all-powerful and is holy and divine may be even more absurd than the science which they seek to explain. Thus they decide to believe in the facts, evidence and theories that explain the past, present and future of the world around us (science) rather than trying to explain how this managed to happen with something even more unable difficult to prove.

And if by now, you're still wondering whether I believe in a God.
I stopped believing in imaginary friends when I was 8.

 

I said that be4. This question can't be answered until it's too late to believe in Allah. The answer of this question is beyond our mind and no one can eva answer this.

If we know everything and answer of this question then all ppl would believe in God and no one would go to the hell.

Nope, he left things to be a proof on his existence for any one wants to search
I said God existed because there is Creation in everything around us. Cuz this is the only answer for how are we existed. Cuz there is a Quraan that no one on the earth can challenge. Everywhere I look I find creation. As I said be4 Allah doesn't have to show us himself and then we believe cuz all ppl will believe and the even belief will lost its meaning.

So How do u think we are here?
If u answer is by Evolution, Then Check page 42 and the collapse of evolution video
If u have an answer betta than this then please tell me so I can learn from u.

Its really based on belief and I agree with u and I don't think ppl be4 could depend on anything other than believing but now there is science.
Another and one last question:
If u have time ( as everyone keep saying that he is busy ) watch any of Quran Miracles videos ( in my sig ) or previous then explain to me
How was an illiterate person from 1400 years ago no all this science facts? Quran wasn't even science book but it’s a miracle and an outstanding mark on god existence as its considered a challenge to any human to get something like this. There is no one mistake on it and it challenged scientists, the past and even the future. So, please watch and then come to discuss If u have time ofcourse.

imaginary friends
Did ur friend left for u a book that no one can challenge 2day or explain where did it come from ?

Part of growing up is starting to ask urself question and find the right way to ur answer.

So , you say there are evidences in god non-existence. Give me some
BTW, although I believe in God 100% , I'm still afraid of death.

Note : Thank u for the easier English I understood almost 70% of this post

 

Well, i don't believe there is a supernatural being that created us, we evolved, but http://thechurchofgoogle.org, look at their proofs, they seem very logical even if it a nicely designed php script.