People on welfare. Lazy, or a reason?

There are many new laws though pertaining to Welfare. You can only be on it for a grand total of 5 years now cutting off a way of being lazy, yet providing time to get a decent job through college or other.

The reason people are on it isn't being lazy every time, and people who are on welfare often do have jobs. The problem is that in today's world you are not able to provide for yourself and other on a minimum wage job and still have a house. So people apply for this for aid in paying the cost of living. I do think there are some lazy ones who live off child support and welfare but like I said before there cracking down on it and setting limited time to avoid people like this. In all fairness, if you need it thats fine "try to better your life so you don't need it" but there are allot of things out there to help you get grants and stuff to go to school get better jobs, buy houses and such leaving no reason to be on it forever.

 

I agree and disagree because yes many people that on welfare are simply lazy, and do not try to find work. But there are others, like my close relative that her company closed and she was on welfare for a bit.

 

In many cases, such as Palestine, it is directly your tax dollars paying for the atrocities.

If Sythe wants to bring philosophy into it, he can do without proofs which prove nothing.

I agree about the bullshit surrounding those "disorders".

 

If I want to contribute to a relief effort, I shall give to a charity. Forcibly taking people's money is immoral.

The proofs accomplish exactly what they are intended to accomplish. They are valid.

 

my sisters boyfriend is on welfare but its because his family moved to kentucky or somewhere in the states and he didnt have a job for a while since he was a drop out, so hes not lazy, there is a reason

 

Whose fault is it that he dropped out?

 

And yet you don't, so, uhh, why should I believe you'll give without welfare?

They are valid if they prove nothing?

 

I think the candidates for welfare must be selected much more carefully, rather than blind acceptance for it's benefits.

A perfect example of the consequences of abusing welfare is my grandmother. She's a product of the hippie era; living for the moment, narcissistic and not worrying about the burden she places on others. Her whole life she did very little to benefit anybody around her. She worked her 6 am - 3 pm school job and went on day to day with life. Then she got inheritance from her mothers death. You would think of it as a blessing when she's living off of teacher salary, but no, she blows it away in a year. So then she decides she can no longer afford the prices of US lifestyles, off to Thailand. She pays no taxes, she has no retirement funds, the sleeps in random people's huts and lives off of the GOVERNMENTS PAYMENTS. The perfect example of system abuse.

You may think, well that doesn't sound all too bad, she just doesn't know how to handle income well. Well, on the contrary she is insanely self centered. My father has the worst weekends possible. Aside from his business duties, he's taking care of all her paperwork, dealing with her medical issues, turning in her "tax refund claims", sending packages to her which cost $200+ to ship to the middle of Thailand (which she usually sends back anyways because the pills don't "work in her system", making us pay for the shipment back) and other tedious, time demanding tasks, all on her part. She gives no thanks, she expects his assistance, merely because she raised my father. I might add his childhood wasn't the best, he received very little help from her in anything.

Yet, here's this women, caring about nothing but herself, living off of welfare.

There's my extended version of why welfare is a terrible system. =p

 

I do when I can afford it. University is expensive. Besides, the mentality of "you will give to charity willingly, or we shall force you to" is immoral.

They prove something, that is, his claims that he is a rational being capable of making correct/incorrect decisions.

 

Think of it this way...

People who NEED Welfare participate in it and recieve the payments and so forth to feed their family and children etc.

People who go on it just for the extra cash..Imagine that your walking down the street and see a 20 dollar note, would you pick it up to have that extra convinient 20 dollars ? or would you walk past it.

So yes most people on Welfare have a "Reason" and the so called "lazy" people maybe it's a way they choose to live their life, you can't be a censor and say no you can't have that because your lazy.

 

Instead of deciding who gets benefits, how about removing the entire system?

 

More immoral than letting everyone starve? Nice. Heaven forbid you get a lesser graphics card while some kid starves.

 

You keep insisting that I am claiming your existence is evil, which just seems typical for your way of thinking. Not everyone is against you, Richard. Morally, if you let these people die, you're not so much showing your lack of support for the current system so much as trading lives for a futile gesture. Doesn't seem fair to me, and I fail to understand (Even as someone who works 8:30-5:30) how those who have no income would be required to pay income tax.

You always radically simplified what you assumed was my ideals, and came out with a complete travesty, which ignores the fact that hardly any humans survive in a natural environment, as the very point (If we define the "point" as the final result) of survival in a natural environment is to weed out the weak. Having seen your pictures, your horrific reaction to criticism and your arrogance, I'd say you'd be weeded out fairly quickly, as soon as which became apparent, you would argue against the system which would weed you out. You are a reactionary, you see something you perceive as an injustice, form a judgement, and never bother to actually think about the subject again, because you might be wrong.

"the reason people have it so tough is because income tax and the general cost of living is so incredibly high"
THINGS DO NOT BECOME RIGHT BECAUSE YOU SAY THEM

 

This already is, and will be a political/Republican vs. dumbasses debate.

And since I REALLY don't want to get into this at the moment, though I will later, I think for the most part they're lazy, addicted to drugs, therefore incapable to work, which then, of course, they'll spend their welfare money on MORE drugs, or people who are physically or mentally disabled.

 

Someone really needs to do something about welfare. So many people abuse it. Like half the people in my city live on welfare its crazy.

I understand if theres a ruff patch in your life and you need some money, but these people have been living off it for their whole lives.

What I say they do:
Whoever is currently on welfare will get it for one more year and then it will be canceled. Giving them plenty of time to find jobs. Then if someone else applies for welfare they will get it for 6 months. There shouldn't be any excuse for not being able to get a job in a six month period.

5,760,476 people were living off welfare in September 2000 in America.

Lets say they received $20,000 for a year:

20,000 x 5,760,476 = 115,209,520,000

Thats an extremely large amount of money to be paying on a yearly basis, and the goverment needs to do something about it.

 

Welfare is a good idea, and alot of people are helped by it

However some people pool together and don't work just to collect their welfare, then they all combine their welfare money to pay for the costs of living

This is ABUSE

 

if welfare is like the doll (thats what we call it in the uk) then yes i agree if your on welfare getting free money because you cant be bothered to get a job then you are LAZY im 14 i cant picture my self on welfare/doll the second i can get a job ( 16 ) im going to get 1 i want to see my self as a hard worker not a lazy bitch
~luke

 

No, it's a terrible idea.

Sure, at the expense of taxpayers. Fair? No.