People on welfare. Lazy, or a reason?

This topic was brought up with my friends. I believe that some people on welfare now is because of what occurred in the past. For example, years ago(lets say in the 60's-70's), there wasn't much motivation present to the students.

My parents told me when they were in school, they weren't given futuristic goals; What was so important about school anyways(to some)? The kids who did well in school back then received huge money-making jobs such as Doctors, or Engineers that work today.

I think that some people say that people on welfare are on it because they were lazy all their life. I could agree slightly, depending on certain situations. Is it ultimately their fault?

Today, we as young adults, will be at fault in the future if we choose not to do the work in high school, and trying to make life in the future well. More opportunities are given today, than about 30 years ago.


Share your opinions.

 

The people who are lazy are the ones who abuse it... the ones who get on and never get off or get a job, even though realistically welfare is only meant to be a temporary aid. Then they have lots of kids because it gets them more money back on their taxes. Then those kids are raised in a culture that does this, and they do it too when they grow up.

 

Lazyness is a big factor in the united kingdom
loads of people are living off benefits
having kids to get extra cash i think this is disgusting the government is handing out cash like candy and it needs to stop

 

Thanks, Sythe, I needed a laugh. That's not slavery, it's called co-operation and working together, and our current system is, in no way, related to serfdom, except for the wage slaves in corporations <3

 

People Who Are Lazy Should Basically Not Get Paid.

They Should Offer A valid Reason In Which They Are Permitted To Be On Welfare

 

This goes either way. So there is no definite answer.

 

My answer is both. Some people are just lazy and wanna get free money without doing anything themselves, but say someone grew up in a rough part of the town and their parents where not financially set or secure and their child couldn't get the proper education so they are not having the skills to go in the real world and get a good paying job. But i would say most of them are a combination of the two.

 

Regarding society, I hate to think in absolutes. So, I am hesitant to label all people on welfare as either lazy or having a good reason. I would be willing to bet that there are those who are lazy and abuse the system, and that there are those who are on it because they genuinely have no other choice.

Regarding whether or not welfare is a necessary part of society, I am uncertain. Taxation basically is theft, as Sythe has said, yet, could we realistically rely upon charities and the motivation of individuals in the absence of it? If we have a look at such countries as India, we see that thousands of people are literally dying in the streets, due to starvation. Given that this is the alternative, perhaps taxation to keep the jobless alive is not such a bad thing.

 

If you've been on welfare for more than a year now... you're lazy.

Just get a job, any kind. If you didn't finish high school, try making some under the table kind of deal with a gas station owner or something.

I get pissed off whenever I see a bum sitting on the sidewalk smoking and eating away other people's money.

And have too many kids to support? Then you can get off your ass and work, or put them up for adoption.

 

Unless you pay for a disabled person's special needs yourself, you're proof of the need for the system.

 

My dad is on welfare

well, disability.

but its not his fault that he cannot work.

 

Well I've been talking with my dad about this, and here's what we've come up with-

My dad, works his ass off all the time. Always at work, always making money to support us.

My dad also, needs to pay taxes, like most everyone else in this country.

What me and my dad are frustrated about, is that if people are truly being lazy, and don't want to get a job, and qualify for welfare, then MY DAD, is the one that's partially paying for it, as well as yourself, or your parents.

You or your parents put out thousands of dollars in taxes every single year, just for those lazy people to sit on their fat asses, and do nothing.

That's one of the things that pisses me off.

Although, there are people that truly do need welfare, but if you have 9 kids, and no job, and your spouse doesn't have a job, and all you do is sit on your fat ass and have sex and make more children, OUR TAX MONEY, should not pay for YOUR laziness or lack of work ethic.

EDIT: My dad was on disability at one point, but he was in a terrible car accident. He is still left with huge scars, and plates and screws in his knees. He's missing teeth, although he has fake ones, and it was all done by someone WE CANNOT SUE. You want to know why? Because this person, was driving under a suspended license, possibly intoxicated, 22 years old, ON WELFARE.

My dad was in the ICU, telling his wife, 'C'mon we gotta get off this ship and I gotta get back to work'

He had a broken pelvis and for lack of the correct word, had a torn spleen, hundreds of staples in his face and head, lost teeth, and a broken knee. He almost died, because of her.

 

Compared to everything else tax goes towards, welfare isn't too bad. As shredder pointed out, it keeps people alive. I just think the government should be stricter in saying who gets food stamps and such.

 

We had a discussion about taxes today in school..About people that are into jails..did you know that we have to pay $40k for each person in prison? holy shit..thats more than what most people in the U.S get paid a year! And they are getting that..

wow

 

The money doesn't go to them, idiot, it goes towards the jail, the wardens' salaries etc.

 

No shit?

but were paying $40k (of course divided through taxes of the people) out of our pockets.

good job of pointing out what i already know

 

Evidently you didn't, or you wouldn't say "and they are getting that", jackoff.