[NSFW]Ex-Arizona police officer acquitted of murder in shooting of unarmed man[Video shows shooting]

Ex-Arizona police officer acquitted of murder in shooting of unarmed man







I've been following the Reddit posts and news about this and the general consensus is that the officer is in the wrong in this situation. I'd like to have a bit of a more intellectual conversation with somebody who does not share my opinion on this situation so I possibly see things from your point of view.

I believe what happened was terrible, I believe the officer is not at fault for the young man getting killed and that as unfortunate as it was, it was the young mans failure to follow direction that let to him getting shot.

The general public seems to be in an outcry and lean on things that are not pertinent to the shooting to base their opinions on the situation in general; things like

• The officers demeanor/or harsh sounding words towards the young man
• The fact that the officers gun has "You're fucked" etched on the side of it.

Police officers put their lives at risk everyday and it's their responsibility to protect themselves and others around them. So when they get called to a situation where (allegedly) there is somebody pointing a rifle out a hotel window, they have to take their jobs seriously and believe its entirely plausible that the person in question may have more firearms on them.


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literally was gonna post this when i saw it on tmz but didnt know where. didnt want to get banned.


Well the job is obviously very chaotic and cops are under extreme amounts of pressure in these gun point situations. yes they have to protect themselves. Yes the man did not listen to the cop which led to him being shot multiple times.

Now in the video the cops, or atleast the shooter, clearly had an aggressive tone the entire time. If the man had done something crazy that would be expected. He for the most part was obedient and listened. Obviously hes startled and as some reports say possibly drunk. The cop you can just tell is one of those ego cunts that think hes above everyone else. He is yelling and screaming and making uncalled for death threats. Yes they could have a gun but were they 100% certain it was these 2 that were reported? All we have is the video to go on and it could be 2 random civilians that showed up and the cops were cautious. yes they have protocol and procedures but the overly aggressive tone and use of words only made the situation worse. As far as the shooting goes I agree that if he truly did reach for something on his waist the shooting is viable. Seeing the video though although he does start to reach back, he stops half way. He comes no where close to his pocket or somewhere he can grab a gun. This is from the body cam on the right side of the officer. If you take it from the officers view he would have a much clearly look at this. He was clearly trigger happy and the whole gun engraving/attitude would back that point up. The entire verdict could of changed easily if the judge allowed the jury to see the gun, but he didnt based on it being prejudice. Yet the whole point of a cop is to enforce the law and be professional and a symbol of authority. Yet he actually etches those type of words on his issued weapon. It just points toward the type of mindset of a cop you do not want. Power hungry and overly aggressive.

Another point I would like to make is there was 6 officers, im sure all with gun out on the trigger ready to fire if needed. They could of easily done the apprehending differently. They give him many directions and make him crawl to them. Why not go over and cuff him? The woman was close and in custody already. You have 5 cops there available to deal with the male. It is just bad tactics setting up for situations like this. Based on what Ive said and what I have seen and read the cops handled the situation poorly and the shooter fired prematurely

 

iirc, the shooter and the person talking were two different people, i read about this on either reddit or liveleak, could be completely false though

also heard that the judge looked at this, and the video wasn't used as evidence, and they all got off from any charges

apparently the wife had a 75million lawsuit she could do

 

I got approval from a Global before posting. So I was in the clear to link it here.

My interpretation is that the police officer needs to be very serious about what he says and conveys stuff as though its an emergency; which it is. I completely agree with the fact that the police officer could have chosen his words better

Are you both drunk "No" so your not going to have any problems doing anything that I tell you right? "Right"

A warning in the form of "You do that again and were shooting you" is not a death threat. If he had said something like "I'm going to kill you kid" Sure, but that's not what was said

Uhhh no

I disagree with this. Etching something on your weapon does not make you more likely to kill people

Tight space, low visibility. You can see from the angle we are given that there are doors that these two people have just walked out of (possibly attempting to escape from officers POV) and they were called there for a man with a rifle. They have to take it seriously.

I agree the entire situation sucks

The issue was not that he was crawling, the issue was with the man reaching behind his back into what appears to be his waistband

Check out top of this post.

 

I watched this on FB...

Complete police brutality

In that state of fear nobody can think straight...

Even tho he reached behind his back who in the right mind is going to reach for a weapon with two police officers aiming loaded m16s at them?

 

My god, As someone who's dream job to get into the law enforcement, I find this fucking
god damn disgusting. This Officer had weird intentions from the beginning of the video.
Everything about him was weird.
That poor man was scared for his life.
I understand he did reach behind his back but you think if they saw a gun waving out the window they would have more backup etc.
Condolences to the family/friends of this man.

"Just my 2c.

 

Criminals

These were not usual handgun toting traffic cops, they WERE the backup/team sent for situations like this.

 

Even though he was not complying he was obviously not a threat and a well-trained officer would have most likely acted differently.