Unsatisfied with growth

Roary is the only reason your site didn't fall apart 4 years ago.

 

Also I'm expanding on this point. Roary was willing to put the site above himself for many years. He didn't do it during the golden years, he did it when no one else cared. It was taking you or Matthew months to deal with simple U.I changes. It wasn't like you guys were working on the transition to XF at this point. Roary was not only handling the workload of all the other MIA admins at the time (no offence to those who know this is directed at them, it's not your fault you were burnt out from years of activity), he was also handling the workload that the moderators were definitely falling short of. This was a time before sectional moderators dealt with disputes he was handling almost all disputes and all account recoveries. You provided absolutely no resources or effort into expediting the recovery process. The email recovery system was down for MONTHS and Roary had to manually verify each and every person and sort out a way of returning accounts to their rightful owners. If you didn't thank Roary for being a good moderator it's because you were not involved enough to notice it, not because he wasn't a great staff member.

 

Hello there,

Let me first start off by saying, I have heard absolutely negative things about Sythe RSPS. I've had a technical core come to me saying that Sythe RSPS is ending up as a dead project and I am not going to name who this individual is because he may not wish to be named for this matter. Sythe RSPS is a dead project. No developer is going to have the motivation to develop for the project if they are not getting anything out of it. It was just something that was put out to put more money in your pockets.

Secondly, let me start off by clarifying one flaw in your rules:

• This rule does not apply to information/photos that the staff have posted publicly on Sythe about themselves (or reposting of the same provided the original thread still exists)

So yes if you repost information providing the original thread still exists you still get permanently banned. The rules are flawed automatically and also another flaw in your rules:

• If a user commits any unconscionable act not explicitly in the rules, or has repeatedly broken rules, the staff reserves the right to punish the user in any way

Ok so that means any of your staff members can make up rules that they wish and punish any user for it, that sounds absolutely ridiculous. Practically the staff controls the forum rather than you. This is a major issue. In fact, the only place I've actually seen you posting is the spam forum, I rarely see you handling disputes or even voting on pardons!

Not only this, how do you tend to have a black market without any blackhat. I have purchased cracked RS accounts from a tonne of different people for botting purposes. WOAH thats a bannable offence. Not only this, certain staff members are unfamiliar with name sniping and yes although I did not like Tmoe in particular I do respect him in somewhat of a matter for actually taking the time and getting rid of name snipers. If Tmoe wasn't an admin then I'm sure KLucius would be around. However since he has temporarily gone there is nobody handling the name sniping cases.

I respect the fact that people are banned for scamming but the truth is you cannot ban blackhat from a black market. It doesn't work out.

-Seraphic

Anyway I'll see ya'll later, goodbye for now, hello to the future!

 

Strange, I'm quite familiar with name sales and have handled many of the sniping cases thus far. If im not directly handling them, then I give my experience and expertise on the subject to those handling the reports. That's not even remotely related to the OP, which is about ways to develop growth in the Sythe community and issues revolving around it. Discussing your ban status will not make any progress in here.

More like goodbye forever since you cant seem to understand that ban evading isn't allowed, you do it on the regular.

 

Ok so since the staff team wanted to try and take my ALT account Vietnam95 down no problem. You believe you can take me down but I have unlimited VPN IP's.

Ok MR Island. Or should I say Tony. You say you handle name sniping reports yet I failed to see you handle when the name 61 was sniped. Why wasn't Milotic banned for sniping that name. It was very obviously sniped. You think you can get rid of ban evading but unless you ban everyone on a VPN it's not going to happen.

 

IF you want to go in depth with why it wasn't sniped or chit chat with me, feel free to message me on skype like you already do buddy. take care.

 

This just proves Sythe had no idea what was going on within the staff team before he stopped farming and had a surplus of free time on his hands. Roary, literally was the backbone for staff and CDT for a long time to keep both functioning. This was a time when morals were actually followed. I have no qualms with the current staff team, nor am I disgruntled, I'm simply just bringing the issues to light as I have been doing for a long time now. I do it because this is the only way to sway content minds.

@Island During that time I ran into issues that compromised my ability to come online on a consistent basis, but during that time I left sort of an outline as far as how you could use SG without any automated functioning in the time being until one was actually made. It's not hard at all. I'll run it down again for you.

Wheel of Fortune:

Have users post the amount of SG they would like to spend to spin the wheel (ex: 100 sg per spin), the thread operator would then quote their post and roll using the dice roll. The wheel itself will have prizes and nulls. So say there are 20 slots, 10 of those would be null.

It took me 2 minutes to think of this. It's about putting the effort in to actually make this a reality and not just an idea.

 

Thanks for reiterating the exact thing CDT came up with months in advance before you joined the crew. It may take two seconds to come up with an idea, but there's more than just an idea to build upon. We have to design the interface, code it, make sure everything works, test phase, etc.

Again, these are things that you can talk about all day long that we need to keep individuals involved in sythe, and I agree with you. But it takes more than a discussion, it takes time and other people to get involved instead of just sitting around criticizing everything. We have designed the visuals, now to animate it and place it into the User center is another task on its own. Feel free to hop on the team again and do something instead of sitting around complaining that it doesn't get done fast enough. You can obviously see the long list of Sythe gold changes in one of the chats I had invited you to. The teams are doing their part of the job, and that's as much as we can do. @Sythe is only one man, with so many things he has to handle at a time. I would ask TC to help code but im sure that's something that Sythe would want to do on his own to make sure its done right the first time. And that is if we get his approval.

 

I tried to gauge interest by those who were on the team at the time (spammed the cdt discord chat) and I got little to no replies or interest in the mechanics, detail, or function of the idea. There was very little I can do in my position at the time with the limited amount of free time I had. You're talking about making it animated, when you could easily have it be manual in the time being, thus making SG less saturated than it already is. It has been months since my departure to little avail, much less mention of the idea or plan moving forward.

 

you totally disregarded what I just said. It has to be coded in by either the TC or Richard, and things have yet to move passed that aspect. Neither me, as leader, or you can expedite it more than what it is.

But why would we want to have a half ass product just to make Sythe gold less 'saturated'? All or nothing. We also came up with about 10 other uses for the Gold and those have to be implemented as well, which is entirely out of my hands. You of all people should know how things are rated by importance, while the site gets updated.

 

I just want my Zeno funrank is all.

 

I can't trim on mobile but I want to actually reply to one point on this. Banned members actually are able to return much easier: 1) if you're pardon goes to voting you automatically get a DNT. Every pardon that doesn't have outstanding debts or they're not continuing to break rules goes to voting so in essence anyone can come back with a DNT. 2) check the pardon results thread; it seems for every 1 denial there are 4-5 accepted pardons so I don't think it's exactly hard to return anymore

 

What? Use concise language.

The first quote had to do with you being close-minded, thinking the only thing the PR team is able to do is post on Twitter/Facebook.
The second quote does not in any way confirm the PR team can't do anything without funding. It has to do with your continued cry about how you invested your own time and money into promoting a single forum, which arguably goes against what a team should be doing as you acted as an individual.

You didn't invest your own funds because Sythe was unwilling to; you invested your own funds because you didn't know how to do your job correctly and felt throwing money at people was the only way to provide an incentive. Furthermore, your argument(s) involving Sythe being unwilling to fund whatever you wanted is just another confirmation of you not being able to do your job. Either you didn't provide a good enough argument for why the funds were necessary or you weren't able to develop a plan of action which peaked his interest (I need $X to do Y, which will result in Z). Sythe not providing funds wasn't the problem; you failing as a PR leader was the problem.

What's wrong about advertisements, donations, and volunteering to keep the site alive? It's not like that's ever been any secret. I'm failing to see an argument here.

Yes. You and many others have proven how good you are at doing so, but I digress.

Not be you. Done.

Well, let me begin by saying what everyone else keeps saying to us: It's not my job to your job.

However, I'm actually capable of coming up with thoughts of my own and how we might change things for the future. In addition, I'm not someone who tends to ignore answers or not answer questions, however stupid they might be. So, to answer your question, without funds as a PR leader I would probably look to first create a plan of action on how to actively promote the site. If in that plan of action funds are needed, I'll try to think of a way to arrange a fundraiser or raffle which might involve assistance from the CDT in order to engage the community. We might be able to work together and arrange co-op events or tournaments even, where a percentage of the sponsor's money goes toward a PR fund so something listed in our plan can be paid for. We might even try to reach out to other well-established communities, to see if they are interested in trade-offs (neutral cost) so both communities may flourish. It's similar to being a part of a team on Twitch, where the team is a group of streamers who will host each other or try to promote one another in a way such that growth becomes possible. You may need to start off small, but without first establishing a plan you really have no reason to be doing anything else.

I'll also note that trying to "use social media" can actually be effective. However, when that only involves a Twitter or Facebook account being created with 0 followers, trying to assert social media doesn't work really makes you sound stupid. No shit it's useless if you're trying to promote Sythe with dead accounts.

Since I know this won't be enough for you, I think it's time to address something else which is equally important.

Okay, great. You spent €2,000 EUR on promoting the Rocket League forum and getting users to join Sythe. Thank you for your contribution. I can't help but wonder how many users registered as a result of your efforts and how the funds were actually used. Since I'm feeling generous, let's say that in that time you were able to get 100 users to register. Now, that makes the average cost of user acquisition €20 EUR per user (€2,000 EUR / 100 = €20 EUR if you're slow). Does that seem to you like a good use of funds? Was throwing your money at individuals the best and most efficient way to acquire users? Was it the only way to acquire users? I think trying to complain about how Richard wouldn't provide you funds to do this is completely unreasonable and what you did wasn't even unique. It was a stupid response to not being able to do your job. If Richard wants to wipe de anus (s/o @Gen @Leslie) with $100 bills and hand it over to new users who register, I'm sure he'll let you know when he's ready to make that kind of commitment, but until then I suspect he can find a better way to use available funds. I'm also interested to hear how you went about user retention after those funds dried up, but I'm guessing you'll just blame the CDT or staff for "not doing their job" instead, right?

What I don't think you realize is that paying users to use the platform is a negative, as they should be paying you. However, Sythe is a forum (not a business) and users aren't customers. If people want to use your platform, then you shouldn't have to pay them to use it. Moreover, if your platform is actually good, then people will just tell each other about it. In response to this, Richard, staff, community teams and myself are being blamed for users not taking it upon themselves to spread the word and refer users. How does that even make sense?

Well I'm sure glad you spent your money instead of Richard's.

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I think I said a lot more than that, but perhaps you should remind me. Try addressing the points I made, as I took the time to "do my job", instead of trying to summarize what it you set out to accomplish, but failed miserably in doing so.

What?

I'm well aware of my position and think I do my "job" quite well. If you have constructive feedback on what I'm not doing correctly and might want to do in the future, I'm more than happy to take it into advisement. However, trying to assert the site is "where it is" because I'm "not managing (it) well or at all" shows me how clueless you really are. You're just another person who wants to complain and point fingers and that's all you've been able to accomplish with your posts thus far.

 

I referred to Richard's statement that its the PR's job to "spam the social media". Thanks for confirming you think Richard is close-minded.

As I said, come up with things people can do. We already used Richard's tactic of spamming the social media which was and still is a complete failure, we contacted other forums which lead to nothing, we made an event which Richard didnt care about so couldnt get off the ground. I could continue really.

Yea, yea more of the same. As I already said in my post before its easy to shout "you suck", but how would you have done it mister wise guy? If you know so much of PR why havent you done anything? Is it because you are incapable or is it because you too cant think of anything good that can be done without the support, both financially and by aiding, of the higher ups? As I said, we couldnt get money to do things, we couldnt get approval to do events we planned out. Not much left we can do when Richard rather ignores the PR team then aid it.

It's starting to get a problem the moment Richard expects people to do things for him that cost money, without any use of his money. "You shouldve found members willing to pay for my advertisement" or however Richard formulated it. Lol are you kidding me? It's your site, who in their right mind would be willing to give the PR team money to promote your site. That mindset is totally off.

We did a fundraiser, it failed.
We had a plan for an event we could then promote to outsiders, Richard ignored it making it impossible.
We did contact other communities and they were either not interested or asked what we could offer, which was nothing. You can keep saying the PR should go to the CDT for money, but the CDT gets their money from gold sites. Like I already said a dozen times, gold sites arent interested in sponsering their stuff on a website which has nothing to do with their site.

To sum it up, you basically named up all the stuff we tried while I was the leader. You are a real genius, I applaud you.

Good thing you agree with me that Richard's "spam social media" strategy is shit.

Your suggestions earlier shows how much of a genious you are. But to answer it. Just to make things easy for you, as I know things can be rough for you, I'll compare the €2000,- investment to Runescape. Lets say I bought a set of party hats on Runescape and only sold them on Sythe. Because of this a lot of people come to Sythe because they know the rarest item-set in the game is being sold there. As a result people get to know the site and some join it.

The same thing has been done for the Rocket League section. I bought the rarest item, I let everyone on the Rocket League reddit know I had the items and I was selling them on Sythe and then redirected them here. Pretty good strategy if you ask me.

To top it off, the part where you really came out as a genius again. The items are tradeable so can be sold again. Woah, what a suprise right? So I basically made a loss of 0$ but I managed to get the Rocket League section active.

Whoops forgot to include this in the earlier quote. Hope to have informed you enough, sir.

 

well I agree with Wonderland on the sythe gold part. didnt read into much else. but lately I been dicing a lot and see lot of people dice Sythe Gold. I ve asked a few people I have diced with like what can you do with Sythe gold and they all say no clue. I think reworking some type of reward system would be beneficial. maybe add some miniranks specifically for sythe gold. Idk just seems pointless to be there and have a section in usercenter when it has no use. Maybe it does have a use and I just havent read about it.

 

didnt say anything about converting sg to miniranks. was saying have miniranks for having a certain amount or something like that IF you guys can somehow make a reward system involving sythe gold.

my point was I SEE people dicing their sythe gold and that got me thinking, what purpose does sythe gold have and what can you do with it. I have no idea. can you tell me?