Communism..Good or bad?

There's still a tremendous amount of work involved.

If people are guaranteed a good lifestyle, no matter what career they choose, you will have very few people choose difficult careers. People are, in general, lazy and selfish, and not terribly altruistic towards their peers. Sure, you'll have a few well-meaning people who want to be lawyers, doctors, researchers, or doctors, but you will not have enough people to generate a complete workforce.

You cannot have a government in a Communist society. By definition, Communism is leader-free.

Also, can the dictator motivate all people, for decades to come? I think not.

Yet in North Korea, you find information that has been severely twisted. That's it. There are no alternative sources.

 

When you were a child what did you dream for? Most likely as a child your dreamed of holding a position of power, becoming president, a doctor, lawyer... With-out anything holding these dreams back such as school fees, tuiton, rent, and the need to feed yourself it make life simplier for people to accomplish these dreams, it balances out in difficulty.

Also most jobs that are difficult are not as tough as a toll on your body. Would you rather be a researcher and get to work behind a desk for the rest of your life learnging, or become a trashman and have to labor until you die?

Wikipedia defintion-Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of a classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production.

Webster defintion-1 a: a theory advocating elimination of private property b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2capitalized a: a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c: a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d: communist systems collectively

None of these defintions say there can not be a leader, it just says classless. Meaning nobody should be wealthier then anyone else.

Yes, a dictator can motivate people for ages to come, it depends on how the person chooses to motivate his audience.

There is always an alternative source, it can be from the internet, Another person, or anything.

 

Ok, so you are saying that because someone grew up in a major city that they brought it upon themselves if they are poor/homeless? like what shredder said, they might of been born into poverty.

are you saying every janitor didnt work hard in school? because i know a student that got some tuitions for high school, but he chose to be a janitor instead. he is a 3.4gpa student. not all janitors are lazy people.


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and actually, i donate money about 4 times a year to a local homeless shelter, i donate my time to help there lives. all im saying is that if we donated some, we could help some get there lives back on tract. Yes there are some who just keep on skating by in life, living off of the free stuff, but there are some who are able to turn there lives around.

 

Hmm...I'd say bad. There is a very interesting book about this. It's a theory of how the world would be in global communism. Great book.. It's called "A Brave New World".

 

hmm, ill have to see if my local library has it, and get back to ya on it

 

Shedder posted that link to the book in a previous abortion thread I believe I read it and still feel the same way... I am not saying that communism is the best government, but it is certianly not the worst and in someways better then a lot of governments today.



I found the link to it, if anyone is curious.
http://www.hedweb.com/huxley/bnw/two.html

 

on paper it is a great idea! everyone has equal amounts, that way no poverty. no class system. but once again, thats my opinion.

 

You're right. Then, reality intervened.

Researcher.

First, I don't see how it's anybody else's business how much wealth I have. I'm not obligated to help out those in need.

Second, Marxist Communism must not have a leader. Power corrupts, etc.

History suggests otherwise.

Go read 1984.

 

Excatly these things could not be obtained. Why, Mostly needs of money and power. With no power struggle and students being paid to attend school, there are fewer boundaries to what one can accomplish.

So not wanting endure manual labor your entire life is enough motivation to go to school correct?

No your not obligated to help, but the ability to do so isn't causing you any pain so why not.

Anything can corrupt someone, just whether or not the person in power lets it change their perception of things. Other things can corrupt people or change there views. (Peer pressure, greed, hunger etc. All of which would be eliminated by a good communist government)

The person is a dictator, he doesn't have to be liked. The dictator only has to keep people motivated and there is many of ways to do it.

 

If Communism worked, then that is true.

It is, indeed.

I have earned my place in life. I have worked hard for every single bit of wealth that I possess. It is mine, and as such, I have a right to use it exactly as I wish. To give part of it away to the less fortunate means that I cannot enjoy that wealth.

Greed, the tendency to bow to peer pressure, and hunger are things that are irrevocably built into our systems. The new government would have to give us a ridiculous amount of social conditioning at birth, just like in Brave New World.

No, my point was that dictators can control information. The Chinese government only allows access to Chinese government-approved websites, as well as an alternative Google, Yahoo, etc. It's pretty much a separate infrastructure.

 

Yeah, dictators and communism only allow you to do some things.

 

Communism is a billiant idea yes, but bad for a country to use.

 

We all saw how Communism in Russia worked out, Like someone said once . It looks good on paper but in affect its disastrous.

 

Lets think of something more to say than it looks good on paper.. give an explanation why, please.

this thread is not going to attain my desires.

 

communism only works on paper.

why would some1 go 2 uni and work there *** off when they get the same wage as a street sweeper.

 

In my opinion communism is good. From what i've seen of the capitalistic ways USA practices, anything is better really. Fucking imperialistic pigs.

 

To do with the education, Whats the point when you can be a cleaner and get paid the same as a doctor.

 

This has NOTHING to do with my education. In fact, most schools here promote Right-wing ideas. I've researched socialism/communism/capitalism and since i'm a paganist, capitalism is definately NOT the way to go. Way to kill the earth. If i could decide, we would be back in small villages without electricity, industrys or money.