September 11

I think it's fake. The role of this happening is making pll from US scared. If the pll are scared Bush can go do whatever he wants because all those pll are following him in hope to not be scared.

Bush can go war, steal oil, but weapons. He earns money because he get a part of the Osama weapon industry wich makes like 3 Bil a year. So Bush and the Osama family getting cash.

Osama was running out US one day after the att under CIA protection?!?!?!? Why would they protect a major terrorist if he's responsible for all this shit? Yup, doesn't make any since.

 

I beleive it was real, but i think it was planned by the government. There are things called "false flag" operations where governments commit acts of terror against the people as motives the go to war. I posted a thing about it before but it got locked for some reason, and no-one who posted in reply to it even watched my evidence and just went on a flaming spree. Anyway, you know a government ship was fired upon by Vietnamese which started the Vietnam war, or something like that. Anyway in released CIA or FBI files i cant remember which it admits to orchestrating the entire thing, with the patrol boat that supposedly fired upon them 100 miles away from the entire place.

Oh and also after the 9/11 attacks what happened to Bushes popularity levels? They rose, allowing him to win the election and carry on for another however many years. Also, after an act of terror governments can make new laws which get rid of peoples liberty's, which would normally be protested about but they don't complain because they feel safer. The government has already changed the Fourth Amendment i believe, changing it from "probable belief" to "reasonable suspicion" which means that they can obtain search warrants much easier.

 

I would be very interested in this scientific "proof".

By the way, one would think that the making of at least ONE cell phone call from a plane in flight at 42,000 feet would disprove the absolute "impossibility" of said.

Yet as the calculations posted above show, you can make such turns.

Here:

So, the pilot gave up his airplane because the terrorists had a knife? Perhaps it wasn't the norm, but does it prove a far-reaching conspiracy implicating hundreds of government officials? I think not.

Well, it wasn't quite room temperature, obviously. Burning jet fuel, desks, papers, and so forth tend to propel the temperature up a little bit.

Moreover:

 

LOL are you serious or are you joking.. Microwave signal... You mean the thing you make popcorn in. Also it has nothing to do with altitude nothing to do with angle. I have no clue why you would think that. Phone calls are not at all impossible from an aircraft. By the way the phones used on the flights are extremly expensive because they have specially designed satilites for it. It has not been sientifically proven because people have made phone calls. I suggest you get some more facts buddy.

 

Pentagon attack is very odd.
In the videos you can barelly see a plane.
And it is the pentagon.
There would of been more than one camera.

 

The calls were supposedly made from cell phones, in which case microwave signals, altitude, and angle relative to the tower has everything to do with the probability of the callbeing placed. Phone calls from a cell phone are not impossible from an aircraft at lower altitudes, but at the projected altitudes they had about a 1 in 49000 of placing, and multiple calls were made. Maybe you should learn to read properly before you ramble on about phones built into aircraft.

 

i always thought it was real, and pretty much still think its real but the ending of that video makes me think "where the hell did that plane come from???"

 

Well, they're not straw arguments. You mentioned them last time we argued on this matter, and I've tried to avoid them.

I see you have made this argument personal, to a degree...well, I have nothing against you. I'm open to either position; whichever one makes the most sense/has the most logic is the one I will support.

I did believe that it was a conspiracy, some months ago, but I just don't think that some of the pro-conspiracy arguments use valid logic.

I'll be glad to read the paper, and I'll watch the movie on Thursday, when I have a bit of spare time.

 

STUUUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why the fucken hell whould the usa blow them selfs up? to atack a contury that aint worth shit to them?

You can call some one on an airplane, The airplane phones in the plane are made to get in tuch with people!

When the building wore falling if you watch the pictures you don't hear the sounds, all you hear is crashing. Its the metal bending and breaking nothen to do with any type of bomb. I got family in that kinda biz thats nearly impoible to set a bomb that melts that kind of metel and not hear it at all!

Theres evidence that it is true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Parts of plane.
the "Real" PhoneCalls.
Eye witness reports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
every thing you just want anuther fucken reason to blame the gov,cia and the president get your heads out of your asses and smell the roses the gov aint there to get any body!

 

You see exactly one of the planes was not fitted with onboard phones. Also i am not talking at all about cell phone calls I mean it that he made his phone call from the pay phone on the airplane while it was still flying. He made this call before they hit the twin towers, Before they even made their decent into them. At this point the aircrafts angle and altitude made it possible for him to make a phone call. And also i do not even support the american government. I am South African. Secondly, Americas government is shit.

 

In relation to that, my dad brought a DVD which is about 9/11, and during the movie they have an interview with a controlled demolition expert. He mentioned the fact that if the twin towers was brought down by the Jet Fuel (in which was said to have burned the steel framing or what ever the fuck it was they used) the buildings would not just fall in two neat stacks to ground level (as is what happens very often in controlled demolitions). He also said that the Jet Fuel would have stopped burning in a matter of twenty seconds or less, meaning that the fire would not have been as violent as it was if it was the Jet Fuel that caused it.
Whatever people say about this guys theory being bullshit or w/e , he does this shit for a living (controlled demolitions) and therefore I think he knows his shit, they also wouldn't of got some guy who doesn't know what the fuck he's on about to do an interview for a Documentary that is broadcasted world wide, which hints to me that this was a set-up, and I strongly believe the Goverment and/or CIA (yes they are organisations in their own) are behind it.

 

You are just not understanding my point. Everything you are showing me are about cell phones correct? I am talking about the onboard phones which are connected to the aircraft. The ones that you swipe your credit card in and then you can call for the amount of time that you purchased. You keep refering to cell phones when i am talking about airplane phones. These phones are specially designed to be able for use during flights.

 

http://www.ehow.com/how_474_phone-airplane.html
How the phones work.

What they look like.

 

I think it's real but that video.........very interesting and makes you wonder.

 

Fuck yeah man that video! Just watched all 3 parts and seriously, provides some pretty good proof that it good be a set up. However in part two when they're going on about different sounds coming from different footages, they don't even mention that it may be caused by how close to the explosion the filmer is. For example they have a video where the sound in the background is a booming explosion, shot from a few blocks away, then another video is shot from across the other side of the water and the background sounds are sirens. I think that's deffinitely because of how close they were to the building's but still..Some very good points, does get you thinking.