TWC for refusal of using omm's at your own expense.

Hey.

I'm not sure if this has been said before, or if it would in future. But today I had a brief conversation with a gold seller that went like this:

[21:37:49] Yassine - Keep it Real: Like i am really careful now. would you go first or increments? Just wanna know if nobody message me soon.
[21:38:01] Jimmy's RS power leveling/boosting services.: No, but id use an omm at your expense for it all.
[21:38:08] Jimmy's RS power leveling/boosting services.: Never got an issue using omm's.
[21:38:11] Yassine - Keep it Real: No thanks have a good day than.
[21:38:25] Yassine - Keep it Real: At my expense also you buying for 0,9 if i would sell to you.
[21:38:37] Yassine - Keep it Real: I wish you goodLuck sick of shit talk like thse
[21:38:38] Yassine - Keep it Real: Bye.
[21:38:49] Jimmy's RS power leveling/boosting services.: I know what your saying mate, wasn't meant to offend you. but it's a legit way for you to dump if required in future.
[21:39:05] Yassine - Keep it Real: Good day!

After the fact, I then told him I would pay for the omm so he wasn't out of pocket on the trade as my buy price was low for bulk anyway (understandable) he then said no and blocked me on skype.

Let's face it, what do we all really think will happen if a newcomer buys from this seller. I know it's unfair to presume all people are scammers but if YOU offer to absorb the cost for the OMM and it is still denied, I think this should be viewed as extremely suspicious.

Sorry if I'm wrong, or if it's been done Already..

EDIT:
Some background info: This member was a newcomer. In no way am I suggesting trusted members of the community should be subject to this. Only people with below a certain amount of vouches, or perhaps even time on Sythe.

For example, if I was dealing with @Sonia and she offered to pay for an omm for a very large trade, and I denied it and insisted she went first, this would be seen as very sketchy.

Jimmy

 

Not sure if this depends on the whole free market rule..

But IDK why anyone would refuse OMMs especially if you're willing to pay for them. It's sketchy for sure. But it could just be this person wanting a simple trade?
Then again OMMs charge to much, which means people are at risk (dunworry was a good free OMM)

 

Just because some one doesn't want to use an MM or OMM doesn't class them as a scammer even Though it does sound sketchy but that's just a waste of staff time handing out twc for people who don't want to use one no support

 

What I mean is, if YOU as a buyer or a seller offer to cover the price of the OMM yourself, with NO expense to the person you are trading with this should be seen as very sketchy

 

if a person thinks they're trustworthy enough to not need an OMM then asking for one would be a nuisance for them. This should be treated case by case IMO. IE a new member refusing to use an MM = TWC

 

Totally agree with you. That makes a lot more sense.

 

Sorry maybe I mis-read or I worded what I said wrong.

Obviously if you're dealing with someone who isn't a new member, but isn't as trustworthy as you and you offer to use a MM, and they deny it. I'd find that weird/sketchy.

If it's someone who is equally trustworthy and you request MM it can be a nuisance, yeh. But if you're both on the same page you'd just deal with it and get MM so both parties are happy. Free MM's are the way to go.

 

Sorry i don't think i made it clear. This member is a newcomer to the site.

 

As much as I personally agree that is 101% sketchy and I personally wouldn't deal with somebody that denied an OMM at my expense, I think its unfair to make that an auto-twc. OMM are humans too so it would be incorrect to say that you can ever guarantee a 100% safe trade. Free market is only free if its free ya feel?

Tldr; I agree but its too large of a leap to assume no omm=scammer, so no support.

 

Btw, if you're buying you should be paying for the OMM. Saying upfront you'll use an OMM but have him pay for it is a dick move, if i was him i wouldve told you to go away and block you (as he did) and it's compounded even more since you're low balling him. At the price you offered him he could sell to a large gold company and avoid needing to deal with you or an OMM.

 

I totally agree, and even apologised to him after I said it. I've edited the post, this isn't aimed at this particular user, it was just an example of a scenario where this could happen.

 

Won't happen, it's a free market and it will stay that way. We will not force anyone to do anything they may not want for x or y reason.

That being said, if two people agree on an OMM/MM and one person backs out suddenly once the OMM/MM gets added to the chat for a made-up reason, it's likely they will receive a TWC for sketchy behavior.

Denied.