Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

Discussion in 'Report A Scammer Archive' started by anger024, Aug 20, 2016.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.
  1. Unread #1 - Aug 20, 2016 at 5:29 PM
  2. anger024
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2016
    Posts:
    10
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    14

    anger024 Newcomer

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    Scammer's profile link:
    No Lifer

    Explanation of the trade:
    Purchased 2 League of Legends boosts: bronze 2 to silver 5, and silver 5 to gold 5.

    How they scammed:
    During the second boost when my account reached silver 1, it was banned by riot for using a modded client/hacking the game. I was refunded for the boost. Because my league of legends account was not banned for boosting which is a risk with this type of boost, but was banned because the booster was using hacks, I would like to report the case and then seek a small and fair monetary reparation for my account being lost. No lifer has agreed to pay a reparation if sythe deems it is owed to me, and we would like a sythe staff member to moderate the discussion of the amount owed.

    Sythe PM picture:
    http://i.imgur.com/QSIlEf6.png

    Skype profile ID & conversation pictures:
    ID- http://i.imgur.com/VZkL8Cw.png
    Convo in order-
    http://i.imgur.com/GzjY5ZT.png
    http://i.imgur.com/dX51l1d.png
    http://i.imgur.com/KBzWK6A.png
    http://i.imgur.com/7iW3gec.png
    http://i.imgur.com/tTnT7jS.png
    http://i.imgur.com/HBJUOlM.png
    http://i.imgur.com/IRpxyEF.png
    http://i.imgur.com/MHPpI6V.png
    http://i.imgur.com/qbJKVsR.png
    http://i.imgur.com/xauBxWp.png

    Other relevant trade screenshots:
    Proof of purchase- http://i.imgur.com/ORbMVlB.png , http://i.imgur.com/2BTBwkA.png
    Proof and reason of ban- http://i.imgur.com/trEVjbu.png
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2016
  3. Unread #2 - Aug 20, 2016 at 6:12 PM
  4. anger024
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2016
    Posts:
    10
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    14

    anger024 Newcomer

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

  5. Unread #3 - Aug 20, 2016 at 7:11 PM
  6. Superfluous
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2012
    Posts:
    18,939
    Referrals:
    5
    Sythe Gold:
    9,135
    Vouch Thread:
    Click Here
    Discord Unique ID:
    247909953925414913
    Discord Username:
    .superfluous.
    Two Factor Authentication User Pool Shark Air Fryer DIAF m`lady Le Kingdoms Player STEVE Creamy

    Superfluous Rainbet.com Casino & Sportsbook
    Crabby Retired Global Moderator

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    @SellerMan would know best

    my two cents are that:
    -if you knew hacks were going to be used on your account, you're entitled to no refund for it being lost
    -otherwise, you're entitled to a refund or some sort. maybe sellerman can tell you what your account is worth and that much should be repaid?
     
  7. Unread #4 - Aug 20, 2016 at 7:25 PM
  8. anger024
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2016
    Posts:
    10
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    14

    anger024 Newcomer

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    I did not know and was never informed that the booster would be hacking. I also hope sellerman has time to look into the case because he gave me the advice to create this thread.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Aug 20, 2016 at 7:45 PM
  10. No Lifer
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2013
    Posts:
    2,733
    Referrals:
    2
    Sythe Gold:
    1,605

    No Lifer Previously known as tukpride

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    Hi,

    • As far as I know, the booster did not use hacks/exploits/etc to boost this order (they've done many far higher elo boosts without issue, and this is the first time I'm responding to such a dispute).
    • Anger's using outdated screenshots of paypal for some reason, this will most likely create confusion. The booster notified me of the account being disabled, I right away checked with anger to confirm, he did so and I promptly refunded his orders in full. Whilst his screenshots say otherwise, I'm sure he will confirm that this is what occured.
    • What we spoke of (when I encouraged him to create this thread for you guys to make an official decision upon) is regarding if extra reparations are due to the client from the booster, not if his original payments should be refunded (that wasn't an issue and I wouldn't try to hold any of his payment, as clearly his account was disabled whilst the booster was in control of it). I don't know what was discussed between anger & mods privately, perhaps there was some confusion there.

    Everything else regarding the situation should be pretty clear if anger posted our full chatlogs, if any further input is required from me, just let me know.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Aug 20, 2016 at 7:57 PM
  12. anger024
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2016
    Posts:
    10
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    14

    anger024 Newcomer

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    I included old paypal payments to prove I actually had an order with you. I will include the refund pictures below. I made it clear I was already refunded by you for the boost and never claimed you held my funds. The point of this thread is indeed to discuss reparations, sorry if it was confusing to you.

    I included a picture of the conversation between me and the mod above if you need to see it.

    I already made sure to post the full chat logs from skype and sythe, which is required for creating a scam thread. You can review them from the first post in this thread above.

    Prood of Refunds for boost: http://i.imgur.com/4gFMr5e.png http://i.imgur.com/E89E3qL.png
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2016
  13. Unread #7 - Aug 20, 2016 at 8:31 PM
  14. S
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Posts:
    15,907
    Referrals:
    4
    Sythe Gold:
    3,618
    Discord Unique ID:
    338182178238365701
    Discord Username:
    sm2797
    Two Factor Authentication User

    S noobies

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    I'll handle this.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Aug 20, 2016 at 10:09 PM
  16. S
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Posts:
    15,907
    Referrals:
    4
    Sythe Gold:
    3,618
    Discord Unique ID:
    338182178238365701
    Discord Username:
    sm2797
    Two Factor Authentication User

    S noobies

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    Can you PM me the accounts username (not login), and which region. @anger024
     
  17. Unread #9 - Aug 20, 2016 at 10:54 PM
  18. S
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Posts:
    15,907
    Referrals:
    4
    Sythe Gold:
    3,618
    Discord Unique ID:
    338182178238365701
    Discord Username:
    sm2797
    Two Factor Authentication User

    S noobies

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    Did the booster play Velkoz? Or was that you?
     
  19. Unread #10 - Aug 20, 2016 at 10:57 PM
  20. anger024
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2016
    Posts:
    10
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    14

    anger024 Newcomer

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    That was the booster. Any ranked game on my account after the initial date I contacted the seller on Skype was the booster playing.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Aug 20, 2016 at 11:50 PM
  22. S
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Posts:
    15,907
    Referrals:
    4
    Sythe Gold:
    3,618
    Discord Unique ID:
    338182178238365701
    Discord Username:
    sm2797
    Two Factor Authentication User

    S noobies

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    What was the exact date the boost began/the first game the booster played?
     
  23. Unread #12 - Aug 20, 2016 at 11:58 PM
  24. anger024
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2016
    Posts:
    10
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    14

    anger024 Newcomer

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    Date was July 29th. First game they played was a ranked game as Lee Sin (game was a loss with KDA 8/8/1)
     
  25. Unread #13 - Aug 21, 2016 at 5:50 AM
  26. S
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Posts:
    15,907
    Referrals:
    4
    Sythe Gold:
    3,618
    Discord Unique ID:
    338182178238365701
    Discord Username:
    sm2797
    Two Factor Authentication User

    S noobies

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    Based of what I think, and what I can see, it looks like your booster was using some scripts/3rd party program while playing Velkoz @No Lifer.

    What do you both think is fair compensation?
     
  27. Unread #14 - Aug 21, 2016 at 9:20 AM
  28. anger024
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2016
    Posts:
    10
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    14

    anger024 Newcomer

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    Thank you for looking into the case and for facilitating this compromise Sellerman. My account was 3 years old and I had accumulated about 84 champions and around 50 skins. I think around $60 reparation would be fair seeing as I've spent around $345 on the account (http://i.imgur.com/iogH6BK.png i keep track of my spending on league for personal finances). That would be enough to get me a decent start on a new account and is what I think is fair.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Aug 21, 2016 at 10:45 AM
  30. No Lifer
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2013
    Posts:
    2,733
    Referrals:
    2
    Sythe Gold:
    1,605

    No Lifer Previously known as tukpride

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    Are you basing that decision simply on how good a high elo player was playing, on a low elo account?
    I believe you should actually review the booster's play when making such a claim, I personally thought this is what you would do (e.g some sort of screenshare, teamviewer/skype/etc) before making a decision.
    Regarding the extra compensation, I believe you should be discussing that with other staff members to figure out, after making a decision based on something that you can let us know about. Me personally, I'm pretty insensitive to the price as it's the booster that would be paying this [through myself] if held responsible... though I sure hope kills alone isn't what you're basing such a claim upon, ofcourse I don't know what you're basing it upon as that wasn't posted and thus it'd be pretty hard for the booster to give any sort of response.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Aug 21, 2016 at 4:50 PM
  32. S
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Posts:
    15,907
    Referrals:
    4
    Sythe Gold:
    3,618
    Discord Unique ID:
    338182178238365701
    Discord Username:
    sm2797
    Two Factor Authentication User

    S noobies

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    Im not basing it off that.

    I watched a game of OP.GG, and it was quite suspicious. Not to mention that Velkoz is a highly scripted champ, and also that the person your booster was duoing with was playing karthus and cass, both of whom, are also highly scripted.

    Also, all the champs prior to Angers boost are all champs that are never scripted, and nearly all of Angers games prior to the boost were nearly all bot games, aside a normal here or there.

    Ultimately, it can't be proven 100%, as Anger could have used a script in a normal game.

    However, based off what I can see, it seems more plausible that it was the booster.

    Anyway, I'm having a friend who has been scripting for like 3 years + for over 6000 games watch the game I watched, and give his input.

    I'll post back then.
     
    ^ Astro likes this.
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2016
  33. Unread #17 - Aug 21, 2016 at 6:48 PM
  34. S
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Posts:
    15,907
    Referrals:
    4
    Sythe Gold:
    3,618
    Discord Unique ID:
    338182178238365701
    Discord Username:
    sm2797
    Two Factor Authentication User

    S noobies

    Need staff to look into and negotiate a case.

    So, I watched a few more games, and I got the guy who scripts for a living to give his input aswell, aswell as another Challenger friend of mine.

    The consensus between us 3 was that Velkoz was not scripting.

    Locked.

    (If you two have any further queries, just PM me, or post another report).
     
    ^ Astro likes this.
< Reporting Shelpnl | Reporting Diamond Apple >

Users viewing this thread
1 guest
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.


 
 
Adblock breaks this site