CDT Feedback Thread [Official]

DesireX · Aug 12, 2016

FireZ said: ↑

retired and i switched some ranks around
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I'll call upon u next time I need an omm buster.

DesireX · Aug 12, 2016

Sythe said: ↑

Firez has been on admin rotator before it was cool
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When ur flame game so weak none even realises it's flame :/

Tyler · Aug 12, 2016

FireZ said: ↑

getting rid of any ranks isnt a bad idea just my 2c
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I'm all for that too.

Just fyi there was no PR rank when I applied to be a part of PR team and was vetted, and me and gracious strongly suggested to not have ranks for the members, but that was Richards call.

Giddy · Aug 12, 2016

Tyler said: ↑

Hey look, actual feedback. Awesome.

If a discussion between lets say 10 people takes long, what makes you think discussion between the entire community is not going to take much longer?
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Behind the CDT curtain, the team was able to create multiple polls until a certain result held majority. I'll admit this mainly happened because of inactivity, but there were times when it happened to manipulate a certain outcome. I'm proposing one poll with a time limit. The decision would be reached fairly, and in a timely matter.

Tyler said: ↑

My side was actually against having fun ranks for members when we were talking about it.
This was a bad part about the UE system.
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I agree.

Tyler · Aug 12, 2016

Fire zee.

s/o my man Fire

Tyler · Aug 12, 2016

Giddy said: ↑

Behind the CDT curtain, the team was able to create multiple polls until a certain result held majority. I'll admit this mainly happened because of inactivity, but there were times when it happened to manipulate a certain outcome. I'm proposing one poll with a time limit. The decision would be reached fairly, and in a timely matter.
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I do want to note how the concept of CDT leadership could swap polls (and has from what I've been seeing), And I'm more than in agreement with the fact that the CDT spends a bit too long discussing things. From my viewpoint I do not personally see the positives about letting the community make every decision on behalf of the CDT.

Maybe something like "We came up with 10 events we want to release for Christmas events, vote on which ones youd like us to go with" Would be a better alternative in my opinion.

And then something like after polling has finished on an applicant, showing the polling thread and reasoning of each member voting would be nice.

FireZ · Aug 12, 2016

Sythe said: ↑

Firez has been on admin rotator before it was cool
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been on it for years

SuF · Aug 12, 2016

PureAddiction said: ↑

I actually find most of the people who dislike the CDT are the people who applied and were declined. Many people appreciate the events we put out, the spam forum will always be the spam forum though.
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I never applied and I very much so think the CDT sucks.

Tyler said: ↑

So it's our fault they don't know how to vocalize themselves unless they're acting like a salty 12 year old playing call of duty?

Take gun for example. "Fuck you pr sucks"
Me: "if you have any specific examples of how we can improve let me know"
Gun "naw"
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Hamouze said: ↑

The reputation has never been bad until the past month or so because a bunch of people in the Spam Forum decided to start a riot, but hey, it happens. I've been on the team for a while and have never experienced negative reactions towards the CDT until recently. But how do you expect us to get feedback now when a thread like this has been created by the TCT, especially when everytime I try and respond to any TC members they just tell me to fuck off?

Anyways, I responded to your PM with some good shit. Lmk what you think.
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Hamouze said: ↑

I've been leader for 2 weeks and this is the first time I've been in contact with you. I'm not sure who you're giving the advice to, but it isn't me. Chain of command fam. Give me a chance dad, I'll make you proud. Read my PM, things will become clear to you.
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Let me quote some posts you people have ignored:

SuF said: ↑

There needs to be a catalyst for growth that is more than just events. There have been half-hearted attempts to make our various gaming sections active and they have all failed pretty badly. People keep making the same mistakes over and over again like making subsections for things that are not active enough to merit a subsection (newest prime example is the overwatch section). Anyone can do events that people will find enjoyable and people like streamers will attract way more attention for their events than Sythe ever will. In Sythe's case events only act as a community bonding experience that helps people feel like they are a part of something larger and that the site and the community is worth sticking around for.

What events don't do is actually make the forum any more active which is why the CDT hasn't actually accomplished anything but that's something I've just given up on since no one actually listens and they just keep doing the same things because that's easy or something. Just look at the few posts about the CDT in this thread. They are just cognitive dissonance saying these hard facts are wrong or they are just silent because I can only assume they don't want to admit what they've done hasn't worked?

But let's look at something that is positive because my negative rants are rather annoying and stupid:

Movies and TV section. Activity has actually increased and by a pretty good margin and what I think the most likely reason is people like @SellerMan and @n4n0 have been basically curating the forum by posting interesting threads and having interesting discussion. Activity breeds more activity people.
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Jack said:

Not when I was within the CDT.

I think both the the CDT and any future groups will need to be managed properly. I haven't been in the CDT for 1-2 months now but I'll use an anecdote from my time there.

I was basically thrust into the job of running the CDT following x339 deciding he was "over it". The CDT had fizzled out and I had to pick up the remains. Applications were held and everything was looking up, people were posting in the CDT, etc. After a week however, for every time we held applications there were perhaps 1 or 2 people max out of the 5 or so we would bring in that would still bother to help. Without a proper incentive to help the CDT becomes inevitably stagnant. I also grew to understand why x339 had quit. As I was not staff at the time whenever the CDT wanted something to happen I basically had to grovel at the feet of the staff and fight for every inch when trying to help and better the site. It's distasteful and puts you off even trying. It meant the CDT was a glorified chat room and that was all. Anyone can hold a tournament if they want so the CDT was not special at all, we were just slaves under a different name. At least the current leader, Roary, is an admin so he can bypass majority of the fighting for change but regardless, things need to change.

I also firmly agree with SuF, Wulf & Syed. CDT or other groups not getting any recognition is a joke. I've already burned most of my chances for mod by trolling/fighting with staff for change so I may as well throw myself under the bus and offer my opinion straight up. Disclaimer: No I am not begging for a rank

Member of the CDT since the first time people were brought in (Delta & myself). Ran it for several months. Fought for change within the site and to help the site to no avail. Won 2012 member of the year following helping a lot of people on my quest for mod, Weezy & n4n0 discussed a fun rank for the winner, no response. When I query them on it however, I receive no reply. Time passed and CDT fizzled out AGAIN and IDB made a thread suggesting rebooting the CDT (the 3rd or 4th thread in CDT's short time existing?) so I vented by posting this "CDT is dumb lele". Immediately tossed aside without a second look. All that service to the site, no recognition, etc. Now I am not whining, don't think that for a second. I am no longer butthurt, that time has long passed. I am merely using myself as an example to describe what is wrong with the site. Some regular users contribute even more than some staff and yet they receive no recognition but ranks are passed around like candy within certain circles on the site. Heck, people are even fighting the idea of giving CDT members mini-ranks which, as we all know, DO NOT INDICATE TRUST. This negates the popular "newcomers will get scammed" argument and yet nothing changes.
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SuF said: ↑

While I was global I had access to the forum and x339 tried to do a bunch but it soon fizzled and right before I was demoted the forum was basically just a glorified private spam forum. No one even knows that CDT even exists.
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SuF said: ↑

Look at the various UE application schemes and the discussions about them. Some are in the archive but some might be in a deleted thread where private UE stuff was archived. This is just a popularity contest.
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SuF said: ↑

There shouldn't be a rank because it is literally a popularity contest to get in and once you are in you don't have to do anything and honestly it seems like the group doesn't do anything other than a random event that seems like it was thrown together in a couple minutes.
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SuF said: ↑

The group isn't transparent and as I have said its just a popularity contest and I assume that's how it is for purging as well.
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This whole damn thread: Make all CDT discussions public record

And that's just what I found through a quick google search. You've been given plenty of fucking feedback. You've been given plenty of fucking suggestions and I'm fucking tired of spending fucking hours fucking typing fucking shit out for you fucking fucks to sit back and say no and then fucking whine about how everyone fucking hates you and never gives you fucking feedback. Jesus fuck learn to fucking read.

SuF · Aug 12, 2016

Oh and the post that fucking @Dunworry deleted because he's a fucking moron.

Tyler · Aug 12, 2016

lol

Gohan · Aug 12, 2016

Thats all Tyler has got to say.. really dude?...
not cool at all...

SuF · Aug 12, 2016

Tyler said: ↑

lol
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So I quote you actual suggestions and feedback and you just lol? It's pretty clear you just don't care.

Tyler · Aug 12, 2016

Anyone wanting to leave actual feedback and not circlejerk spam forum go ahead here: Tell the CDT What To Do

Spam forum thread here too: Tell the CDT what to do 2.0

SuF · Aug 12, 2016

Tyler said: ↑

Anyone wanting to leave actual feedback and not circlejerk spam forum go ahead here: Tell the CDT What To Do

Spam forum thread here too: Tell the CDT what to do 2.0
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So now you're just ignoring suggestions and feedback because you just don't care.