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Brexit
  1. Unread #21 - Jun 24, 2016 at 1:44 PM
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    Unfortunately the Brexit campaign was smeared with propaganda and xenophobic ideals, which many of the older generation have succumbed to and now we have to pay the price as the younger generation. I am fuming.

    Farmers will lose funding. Cornwall as a country will lose 60m of funding a year, and most of them voted to leave. I have a lot of European friends that live and work here, and at the moment they're unsure as to what will be the outcome of this.

    On a plus side, David Cameron has resigned, but the popular favourite at the moment for PM is Boris Johnson, which is not good whatsoever as much as I find him hilarious.

    I voted to stay in the European Union.
     
  3. Unread #22 - Jun 24, 2016 at 2:48 PM
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    60m saved by taxpayers sounds like a great deal to me.

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    I agree on you on all the points. I personally Believe that UK will be going to some hard times. But maybe they have some ace's up their sleaves who knows.

    I don't think the world economy will be effected to much, I just think everyone will get better except the UK. thats my opinion but lets see how everything works out.
     
  7. Unread #24 - Jun 24, 2016 at 3:45 PM
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    Regardless, the UK will recover. Everyone's all up in arms about it now but it's something that'll be laughed about in a decade or so. I'm personally interested to see how the UK as a country will fare going forward. Scotland is doing a 2nd referendum for independence, Londoners are actually talking about independence as well (though there's so little they can actually do about it), and Northern Ireland is said to be holding a referendum for reunification/independence soon too.
     
  9. Unread #25 - Jun 24, 2016 at 4:18 PM
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    Living in London the most diverse part of the whole of UK, and I voted to stay in. There were far too many risks involved in leaving. NHS had faults with alot of migrant Europeans clogging up the Emergency departments but leaving the EU is going to give a big blow to the NHS. Nurses at GOSH are worried as they're jobs are heavily funded by the EU. The UK hasgone to lengths to get doctors from neighbouring countries and now we're upping and leaving.

    It's a joke that most older generations that don't even see the effect of immigration within their areas, decided to leave on that basis of "omg the immigrants".

    Jobs are gonna be lost.. tax payers are gonna have to deal with the outcome... businesses will most likely leave or cost a lot more. Food and necessities will go up as there's no free trade. No more free travel. Etc etc

    The things that would be beneficial for the UK within leaving is, at least we don't have David Cameron as PM, although Boris Johnson isn't any better. We won't have an influx of Europeans (say if Turkey was accepted) - although this is going to take a blow on the economy with EU visitors due to free travel. And lastly we don't have to put up with EU laws and people we haven't elected..(its horrific - any law student would agree). Oh yeah and the banks get £250bn ...as if that was a good thing.. the banks caused our recession in the first place.

    Uk wont have second referendum they waited three years for this one.

    Scotland will definitely vote for independence. And I'm unsure whats happening with NI, but I wouldn't blame them if they wanted independence too.
     
  11. Unread #26 - Jun 24, 2016 at 4:21 PM
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    farms will now not get fucked by tariffs, so the smaller farms will be good, as with many other importers we import from, we will save money on these as before EU tariffs fucked us so we had to pay for EU produce anyway. True they won't get funding, but there are always negatives to anything. We won't have to bail out Greece, listen to absurd laws and if the EU wants to slap tarriffs on us, we can do it back, think German car manufacturers for example, VW are gonna have words with the EU if we combat their (EU) tarriffs with tarriffs of our own, and many other companies from the EU, as its a massive part of their sales. we are the 5th biggest economy, we won't get fucked by the EU. Yeah cornwall may lose money, but we will hopefully have more left in the budget, which we can work around. If a farm can't survive without massive EU funding anyway, surely there's no point anymore. It's harsh, but thats the reality of it all, happens in US with sweatshops in Indonesia etc, so it's gonna happen here some way or another.

    Older population lived in a time when the EU did prosper, and have watched it grown into a money sucking, rule slapping force that allows the likes of big TNC's to wipe out smaller companies. People like you and me haven't experienced this.

    People working in the UK who aren't originally from the UK aren't gonna get the boot. it may be harder to get into the UK in future, IE no free borders or whatever and a quota, however lets be honest the people of poland ETC come over here and do the dirtywork, that the lazy dumb idiots who sit on their fat arses can't be bothered to do, whilst they take taxpayers' money from using the NHS and benefits, and they complain that they are having job's taken but at the end of the day, they ain't gonna go into a field and do some manual labour, so they can shut up. I don't know what will happen, but it's not like the UK will not allow anyone in, and people who are currently in UK aren't going to have changes etc, as Cameron said as he resigned.

    I can't really see Boris Johnson as prime minister, but he is a lot brighter than people let on/ he lets on, and I'm not sure it would be too bad a thing. Also, Cameron hasn't really done too much of a bad job, in my opinion. CBA to type it all out.

    I'm younger than you as well :)
     
  13. Unread #27 - Jun 24, 2016 at 4:25 PM
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    made me laugh, 11% of all NHS staff are non UK, and 26% of doctors as well, from some random new source. Will be true though, people you need to worry about are the dumb useless people who use benefits, don't give anything back to the economy, can't be arsed to work, have problems with health as they are lazy and so use up the NHS' funding, and then complain that jobs are being taken.

    EDIT: can't tell if i am reading your comment wrong. Up for 18 hours on 5 hours sleep doesn't help.

    either way, the markets are up 2% now compared to EU markets down 8%, future doesn't look too bleak speculating...

    I don't know why everyone is still arguing about the leave / stay vote, its gone, we're leaving. nothing to talk about now, let's get on and make the most of it.
     
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    A wise move in the long-run. I think in the next decade you will see the collapse of the whole EU, coinciding with another financial crises - the world is at the end of the line when it comes to using artificially low interest rates as a method of 'stimulating' the economy - interest rates have to go up, and when they do the real-estate bubble will burst. At that time, if the UK takes this opportunity, it will be in a relatively better position in the future, than it would have been had it remained. The short-term correction will be uncertain and painful though. Maybe this will also prompt a more legitimate dialogue on the refugee crisis.
     
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    this, no amount of quantitative easing will get countries out of debt
    this man speaks sense
     
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    Most likely true, there are a lot of migrant nurses and doctors. Thats what I'm saying most came from other countries, now we're stabbing them in the back. And when I say their clogging up the NHS emergencydepartments I mean gypsies.. I don't know which countries they belong too, but they don't have doctors and have tons of babies and they run straight to those emergency departments.


    It's funny because youngers (those in education?) And the middle aged (working and parents?) Voted to remain.. but the oldies turn out was high on leaving.

    Agree with @malakadang on EU collapsing, but only because we're leaving. There may be a France and/or Sweden exit referendum. I have a feeling EU countries are scared, because the UK is leaving. Well hey they don't get our £350bn anymore.
     
  21. Unread #31 - Jun 24, 2016 at 7:29 PM
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    The EU was already bleeding to death because of Greece, EU collapsing isn't only because of Britain leaving.
     
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    London was mostly 'remain' because there are a lot of foreigners here and a lot of rich / business owners living here who are worried about losing access to the free market.

    It's not like we can't re-negotiate new deals with countries around the world guys... look at Switzerland, they have NEVER been a part of the EU and are doing very well.

    I know a lot of the remain voters will say "but we could have re-negotiated our terms with them", the issue with this is that the EU could have thrown the "agreed changes" out the window once the vote was done, so there was never a guarantee that they would follow through on it. Finally, we would never have any controls over immigration so long as we were a member. I am not against immigration to this country, but I am against just about anyone being able to come here and do absolutely nothing + claim benefits + get a free house off the taxpayer.

    It's a shame Cameron is leaving but he is right that it doesn't make sense and it is difficult to passionately try and lead / run a country when you disagree with a big decision that has been made by its people. As for the next PM - definitely Boris. He's done a great job as Mayor of London, he is the best candidate out of the current Conservative party members to run the country.
     
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    Goodbye people investing in the European shit, you will be remembered.
     
  27. Unread #34 - Jun 25, 2016 at 10:15 PM
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    Got fucked on stocks last Friday.
     
  29. Unread #35 - Jun 25, 2016 at 10:51 PM
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    Who's been trying to join the EU forever now? Who desperately wants to be part of Europe? Who has a thriving economy? Who might take the UK's spot?

    Turkey...? How do we trade Turkey?
     
  31. Unread #36 - Jun 25, 2016 at 11:01 PM
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    Uncertainty involving Britain's relationship with the EU, it's largest trading partner, could push UK into a recession. You're comparing apples to oranges.

    You're saying "look at Switzerland" like they ever had to thrive off the EU in the same capacity as the UK.
     
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    In what ways has the UK thrived off of the EU?
     
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    Reading might help.

     
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    The British Isles have been trading with mainland Europe long before there was an EU.
     
  39. Unread #40 - Jun 25, 2016 at 11:20 PM
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    How is that relevant? There is an EU right now.

    The EU will remain the Uk's single most important trading partner, as I've said before, it's their largest trading partner. Uncertainty with that relationship will be catastrophic to their economy.
     
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