[FireZ] TWC Dispute

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[FireZ] TWC Dispute
  1. Unread #1 - Sep 17, 2015 at 1:36 AM
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    [FireZ] TWC Dispute

    Link to/reason for TWC: http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer/1883875-bacterial-not-legit-sellermen-take-look.html
    List of vouches since receiving TWC:
    My vouches(50+, over 700+$ worth, in most cases they went first)
    http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=10995341

    Reasoning/explanation for sketchy behaviour leading to TWC:We had a dispute with RadeonX in which SellerMan got involved later. I read the rules and didn't find anything that fits this case, the account was at 0LP, MMR was fine too, that's why we had to involve SM. When he told me I have to compensate this, I've done it in time.
    Anything else you wish to say:I'd like to lift up this TWC, as I didn't want to make any trouble, there was just no rule for such a situation. After being told, I did the compensation.
    I'm sorry I was harsh to RadeonX, but I'll tell you what lead to this behaviour: http://i.imgur.com/qy8qfZd.png
    I wouldn't have argued if I found a rule that applies to this here: http://www.sythe.org/lol-boosting-team-sales/1690738-lol-boosting-rules.html
    But since I didn't, I started arguing because of my personal issues. Normally we could've just worked out something.

    If you need, ask me anything, I'm sorry for my behaviour, but I've been trading here for a while, I've never scammed anyone, not even for 430$ when most ppl would have just scamquit. I want to stay here and do my legit business, Thanks.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Sep 17, 2015 at 11:53 PM
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    [FireZ] TWC Dispute

    It is in the rules, it stipulates if you lose ranked games, you must recover the losses/or reimburse the client. I also made the rule more clear just then, but it's pretty obvious anyway.

    Anyway, seems like a minor mistake, I'm willing to support.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Sep 18, 2015 at 12:54 AM
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    [FireZ] TWC Dispute

    Thanks for cleaning up the rule, it was a bit misleading, that's why dispute occured. When SellerMan told me and extended the rule to MMR changes, I was willing to give him 2 net wins. I've never tried to get away from my responsibility, the rule just didn't mention the MMR changes, that's why SM made them clear now.
    I've done multiple trades above 100$ when they went first, and the dispute above was for 10$-20$ of worth.
    I apologize for my behaviour. I've never had any intention to scam, let my vouches prove it. I'm here to do a long-lasting business, in which both parties benetit from.

    New vouches gained since the TWC occured:

    100$ For RP. He paid first:

    For RP:
    Both for elo boost:
     
  7. Unread #4 - Sep 18, 2015 at 3:57 PM
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    Sure I'll support
     
  9. Unread #5 - Sep 18, 2015 at 4:57 PM
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    [FireZ] TWC Dispute

    OP is possibly an idiot, but has the right intentions. Was recently involved in a trade with him myself where most wouldn't have caused an issue, but out of negligence he has. It's caused me to go to great lengths to undo the error, and I'm still working on getting the product I actually ordered.

    In his defense, he's been trying the entire time to unfuck the situation and get it back on track, but it's a little too late.

    For now, I'll wait to support.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Sep 18, 2015 at 11:48 PM
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    We agreed on giving you a gifting acc with RP. I was pretty sure you're aware, and you should have been, that there are some things you can't gift... And you got what you ordered, but I do care that you get the most and best. Currently I have a client who is willing to pay for that account. If you can get back in 12 hours, we can do the trade.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Sep 19, 2015 at 1:47 AM
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    Nvm, just seen you already sent 10k to your account... Everything is fine then
     
  15. Unread #8 - Sep 19, 2015 at 3:29 AM
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    I support removal
     
  17. Unread #9 - Sep 19, 2015 at 4:40 AM
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    [FireZ] TWC Dispute

    Just handled a deal for 200$, buyer paid first,will handle it in 5-6 hours, he'll vouch after.
    Another deal I made today for 215$, buyer isn't registered on sythe.org yet, he said he'll register and leave a vouch. Waiting for his vouch, too. I'm done with his account:
    http://i.imgur.com/q4yNPAs.jpg
     
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    i too support removal
     
  21. Unread #11 - Sep 19, 2015 at 11:18 AM
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    I've told you multiple times I don't know how gifting works. I told you what I needed, and you said "ok this is what we'll do," meaning you'd be giving me a method to get me what I needed. Instead, you've given me something else. This is not a good trading habit, and along with the OP, doesn't assure me that your methods of conducting business deserve a removal of the TWC at this time.

    Asking me to support before you correct the trade is also a very bad trading habit as well as another sign of a problematic personality. I've held back on reporting our trade as a sign of good faith, and I assume you'll correct it before I'm forced to cause a scene.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Sep 19, 2015 at 11:41 AM
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    New vouch gained from the guy who paid 215$ first:
     
  25. Unread #13 - Sep 19, 2015 at 1:17 PM
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    I accidentally edited your post and lost my response. I clicked the quote you gave, and it wasn't a pretty picture with nice supports. It was him accusing you of changing the password.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Sep 19, 2015 at 1:26 PM
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    I've had the guy post to my thread and he'll explain it.
    His response to the edit:

     
  29. Unread #15 - Sep 19, 2015 at 3:31 PM
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    Alright, that's fine. I still won't be supporting until I see more evidence of good conduct in trades.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Sep 19, 2015 at 3:45 PM
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    Alright, noted. I have to add tho, I have managed to make 65+ good trades and only yours went wrong cause of lack of communication. I also have many trades above 100$, each went fine, and looking for doing more.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Sep 19, 2015 at 5:16 PM
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  35. Unread #18 - Sep 19, 2015 at 6:01 PM
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    Vouches since the TWC(Amount above 400$, in most cases they paid first)
     
  37. Unread #19 - Sep 19, 2015 at 11:33 PM
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    No support, I'd like you to wait a while and dispute at a later date
     
  39. Unread #20 - Sep 20, 2015 at 12:08 AM
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    Noted. Edit: I've done trades for 550$+.All went first
     
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