Gay Marriage

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Gay Marriage
  1. Unread #41 - Jun 27, 2015 at 3:10 AM
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    No different than being raised by a single parent, which many children in this day in age grow up with. I fail to see the point you're trying to make
     
  3. Unread #42 - Jun 27, 2015 at 3:12 AM
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    I will say that I find it strange that people are arguing about how children are best raised, by what type of couples, when it is wholly irrelevant to the issue of same-sex marriage. It's as if some of you don't realize that marriage is not a precondition to child rearing.

    Having said that, I would view the whole institution of marriage as one based on tradition. So the argument that it should remain between males and females is one I am sympathetic to. The only way you can critcise such an argument is to criticise the whole institution itself. With that in mind, I don't think the government ought to have any place in the institution of marriage.

    Let people enter into whatever agreements they want, and let people recognise whatever agreements they want. The question of whether the government should or should not allow same-sex marriage implies that there is a reason that government should regulate marriage. There isn't.
     
  5. Unread #43 - Jun 27, 2015 at 5:16 AM
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    Homosexuality is getting too much media attention that's my point I don't like it...

    It has nothing to do with there right's they deserve the same rights I agree with that I just don't like watching the news and seeing gay this and gay that I feel like I'm getting brainwashed into thinking it's okay to be gay which in my personal opinion it's not but that's because I'm a Muslim and I don't believe in same sex marriage.
     
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    "I feel like this brainwashing isn't okay because my religious brainwashing says so."

    You don't have to like being gay, but please understand that there is literally nothing wrong with homosexuality.
     
  9. Unread #45 - Jun 27, 2015 at 8:00 AM
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    Do you dislike seeing everyone who doesn't follow your religion? I think it's more internalised discrimination than you being brainwashed. Religion is a personal thing, and it should coincide with everyone else's belief system. You being okay with other people being gay doesn't mean you are gay.

    Shrug. I would say the same to anyone. Don't argue fact as fact unless you know it's fact. Or at least check the fact before you say it.
     
  11. Unread #46 - Jun 27, 2015 at 8:04 AM
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    0 fucks given.

    Neither against this or for this. 2 people of the same sex wanting to be married does not affect me.


    I feel you on this to a point. I feel homosexuality is immoral (so is RWT) but I do not hate homosexuals or feel they are more of a sinner than me, however I will NOT SUPPORT gay rights. Nor will I OPPOSE gay rights. What another man wants to do with another man is his business, just because I feel it is wrong does not mean I can force my belief system on his life. I feel the media though portrays people that do not agree with homosexuality as close minded, ignorant, ancient thinking idiots.

    You should stop watching TV because its only getting "worse"
     
  13. Unread #47 - Jun 27, 2015 at 10:17 AM
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    argumentum ad antiquitatem
     
  15. Unread #48 - Jun 27, 2015 at 10:42 AM
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    maybe it's just a seperate online personality/demeanor you carry, but i cant help but find most of your posts to be littered with condescension.


    i think the overall response to the ruling made by the SCOTUS has been overwhelmingly positive. looks like at least in the west over the past decade and a bit there has been an increasing support of liberty and equality for all and i can't help but wonder how much the internet is influenced this tbh.
     
  17. Unread #49 - Jun 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM
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    Strange, I am definitely not intending to be.
     
  19. Unread #50 - Jun 27, 2015 at 12:04 PM
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    Good thing to see. Though I don't see the Internet being any more supportive for a while
     
  21. Unread #51 - Jun 27, 2015 at 12:06 PM
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    Don't know why this wasn't enacted earlier, personally I don't think the state should ever have any power in marriage or be able to define what a marriage constitutes.
     
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    im glad, my boss is lesbian (not the sexy 'damn!' kind either) but im glad they they can live there lives normally, whats the matter who you love the only thing that stopped this was religion which if you ask me is the biggest fault in this world, homophobic is just an excuse like hundreds of other things
     
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    As it was in Windsor vs US. Quite questionable whether such a cynical man should be a judge in the Supreme Court of a country if you ask me.
     
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    Playing devils advocate. So the state should have no say in child marriage?
     
  29. Unread #55 - Jun 27, 2015 at 7:12 PM
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    Not necessarily, people should only be getting married when they have reached an age at which they are responsible enough to make parenting decisions, while this may be younger than 18 for some, generally people haven't developed enough mentally and emotionally before that age to make sensible parenting decisions.

    Because of these reasons I think that to have a legal and official marriage that two individuals should have to be a minimum of a certain age, but I am unsure of what is the correct age. (the legal age is 18 in developed countries like the usa I believe).
     
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    How long have they been fighting for these rights? Of course they're going to be in the media. I'm not fond of gays, but I can at least understand why they're in the media a lot. If you think their aim is to brainwash people, you're an idiot.
     
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    I strongly believe in equality. A really close friend of mine attempted suicide because of bigots with their narrow minded thinking. Its 2015, we as humanity should be more accepting of others by now so get out of your time capsules and open your mind.

    Young kids are committing suicide all over the world because they are afraid of you people who hold so much unwarranted hatred and looking at them through your judgmental lenses you got in the 1960s. Putting aside sexual orientation, we're all human beings with a beating heart so who the fuck cares if you like men or women or prefer to be called a man even though you're a woman vice versa. People's sexual orientation does not affect your life.

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    I was born and raised christian but I support the gay community although I am straight. Why? Because I believe in human rights. If I am going to hell for standing up for rights that everyone should have, then so be it. I welcome the depths of hell with open arms.
     
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    Bruh when did you choose to be straight? You never did, same shit for gays. Shame on you.

    I agree with you for the latter though. If two dudes want a Christian marriage, well that's up to the Christians. Go for a civil union otherwise.

    You're a bit more fucked up than I thought but w/e, I'm a firm believer of free speech. Marriage has evolved into something done for legal reasons as well as symbolic reasons. Legally speaking, a couple is a family. You begin to act as one entity instead of two parts. Makes things like insurance waaay easier.
     
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    Oh woe is me, there's gay people on my TV and it makes me sad.

    No "brainwashing" is taking place. There is nothing wrong with being gay and it is 100% ok. Your religion does not put you on a pedestal to judge, you should leave that to your God.

    Also, check yourself. If you were a woman you would be faced with a near-constant sexualization of your body portrayed in everything you see. If you were homosexual your representation in movies and media would be incredibly limited and straight everything would be thrown at you, constantly.

    I hate all these arguments in which there is an attempted association between that of gay marriage and likening it to pedophilia. Gay marriage in no way correlates to child marriage, or the dumb ass comments of "well, what's to stop someone from marrying a chair now??"

    A child cannot consent to marriage. An inanimate object cannot consent to marriage. Marriage (well in the U.S. and IMO forced anything is pretty messed up) requires the consent of the individuals involved. Just like how it's not sex if one party is saying no, that's rape.
     
  39. Unread #60 - Jun 28, 2015 at 1:48 AM
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    Okay, devil's advocate again... How about polygamy? Why should polygamy remain outlawed?
     
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