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  1. Unread #1 - Mar 30, 2015 at 10:03 AM
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    Disallow Max Main Rentals

    Staker renting is just a breeding ground for scammers and there's maybe just one or two legitimate rental services in the section. There are numerous scam allegations against a lot of threads because many of them are ban evaders/scammers who make new accounts to create these rental threads and then boot the user off of their account when the pot gets big enough, and a lot of the proper precautions to protect yourself simply can't be taken.

    I've compiled a list of one serial ban evader/scammer who has done this multiple times and I'm sure that there are others with threads currently open in the section:

    All Banned Profiles (that I could find, at least...):
    http://www.sythe.org/members/440591-seventh-sky.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/437359-malaletki.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/437331-redbarol.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/437017-verblinas.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/437169-toxicate.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/436687-jagermak.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/437002-lillolipop.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/375815-bball3469.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/274558-myaccisforsale.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/423448-meris02.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/424543-nebukmulkis.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/361598-jewkiller3000.html
    http://www.sythe.org/members/431684-pjanoo.html

    Maxed Main Rental threads (he basically just makes a new account, posts a few times, then creates a thread renting a maxed staker account):
    Seventh Sky - http://www.sythe.org/other-services/1819001-oldschool-sevenths-skys-max-main-rental-shop-cheap.html
    Verblinas - http://www.sythe.org/other-services/1807800-2007-rs3-verblins-maxed-main-rental-services-cheap.html
    Toxicate - http://www.sythe.org/other-services...maxed-account-renting-services-oldschool.html
    Jagermak - http://www.sythe.org/other-services/1806174-oldschool-max-main-services-cheap.html
    Bball3469 - http://www.sythe.org/other-services/1761181-cheap-bballers-maxed-07-main-rentage-cheap.html
    Myaccisforsale - http://www.sythe.org/other-services/1394317-lending-boxer.html
    Meris02 - http://www.sythe.org/other-services/1754566-maxed-out-07-acount-rent.html
    Nebukmulkis - http://www.sythe.org/other-services/1758967-cheapest-maxed-07-staker-rent-cheapest.html
    Jewkiller3000 - http://www.sythe.org/other-services/1784186-max-max-main-07-renting.html
    Pjanoo - http://www.sythe.org/other-services...n-rental-service-max-main-service-24-7-a.html

    ALL of these threads have ended with scam allegations

    Scam reports:
    http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer-archive/1784670-scammer-jewkiller3000.html (Alleged 43M lost)
    http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer-archive/1756874-meris-rented-staker-scam.html (Alleged 100M lost)
    http://www.sythe.org/other-services/1754566-maxed-out-07-acount-rent-2.html
    (Alleged 37M and 160M more scammed by other users in the thread, no report posted though)
    http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer-archive/1806387-jagermak-scammer.html (Alleged 20M lost)
    http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer-archive/1805831-pjanoo.html#post14388328 (Alleged 80M + another 54M by another user)
    http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer/1819999-seventh-sky-ban-evade-scamming.html (Alleged 50M scammed)
    TOTAL: 500M+ scammed, undoubtedly more from users who didn't come forward

    Either get rid of it entirely or (at the very minimum) have a list of login usernames NOT to rent (but often times you won't find out the login username until you've already paid the deposit...)
     
  3. Unread #2 - Mar 30, 2015 at 10:24 AM
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    i agree!
    on the topic of ban evaders, u joined this month, 200+ donor, typical post count whore, svu , pimped out profile, 90% bet ur a ban evader
     
  5. Unread #3 - Mar 30, 2015 at 10:26 AM
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  7. Unread #4 - Mar 30, 2015 at 10:39 AM
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    lol owned!!!
     
  9. Unread #5 - Mar 30, 2015 at 10:43 AM
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    No support, it's up to the customer to pick who he trusts. It's his own fault if he's choosing a new user with 0 vouches and getting scammed.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Mar 30, 2015 at 10:47 AM
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    Yeah, or make a list for the accounts who scams
    And make it public?
     
  13. Unread #7 - Mar 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM
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    Burn,

    he has a legacy account.


    And support.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Mar 30, 2015 at 10:50 AM
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    I should go back to renting it would stop so many scams. xd
     
  17. Unread #9 - Mar 30, 2015 at 10:57 AM
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    Nope, can't disallow something because there are scammers. I'm willing to bet a majority of account sales in general are scams but we don't ban them outright, just use discretion.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Mar 30, 2015 at 11:02 AM
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  21. Unread #11 - Mar 30, 2015 at 11:07 AM
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  23. Unread #12 - Mar 30, 2015 at 11:52 AM
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    No Support. If we dis-allow it because there are scammers, we might aswell just dis-allow all trading.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Mar 30, 2015 at 12:05 PM
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    Basically that is what they are saying yes, if someone from the community is willing to create it + maintain it, then it would be fine.

    Obviously you would need proof of the login names and proof they scammed etc.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Mar 30, 2015 at 12:09 PM
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    I'm sure there's many of us here on Sythe who would be more than happy to maintain that list and update it once a week or something. Myself included.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Mar 30, 2015 at 12:10 PM
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    Disallow Max Main Rentals

    Not saying we should disallow simply because there are scammers, but because the section harbors an abnormally large proportion of scammers with zero to little means of being able to protect oneself (i.e. using an MM) unlike other trades.

    I honestly think the site would be a whole lot better just getting rid of it, or at the very least implementing a list like above.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Mar 30, 2015 at 12:32 PM
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  33. Unread #17 - Mar 30, 2015 at 12:34 PM
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    There are plenty of markets where a large percentage of trades result in fraud, and where using a MM probably won't help. We cannot ban a type of trade based on this criteria, but rather encourage people to use proper discretion.

    I don't think the list is super useful, but if you want to make one go for it. It'll take activity to maintain and verify claims, and people that need to read it the most wont. Scammers can get other accounts to use, etc. All that it'll accomplish is prevent some serial scammers using the same method, and the same accounts, and assuming that the person they're trading with reads it.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Mar 30, 2015 at 12:35 PM
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    no support, there are some legit renters that many people in the market appreciate doing business with
     
  37. Unread #19 - Mar 30, 2015 at 2:15 PM
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    this will be denied.


    free market
     
  39. Unread #20 - Mar 30, 2015 at 2:19 PM
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    no support I have my account rented almost all the time and have had nothing but happy customers
     
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