Suggestion about trading on sythe.

THINK ABOUT IT MODS! YOU'RE ALL BUSY AS IT IS. SPEND TIME MAKING A TRADE CENTER, CONTROL THE WAY TRADE IS CONDUCTED, AND PREVENT MANY SCAMS! OR CONTINUE TO BE TOO BUSY WITH SCAM REPORTS, TWC REPORTS, AND UNNECESSARY SKYPE PMS/ IMPOSTERS. WORK HARD OR WORK SMARTER IT'S JUST AN IDEA YOU CHOOSE... WON'T AFFECT ME

Okay The way I'm picturing this in my head may not come out the way I am seeing this play out... bare with meh!

Okay here's the idea, I see all the time all these new guys and just idiots getting scammed through skype from imposter addings. Some don't know how to request a PM or that you need one incase of scam so let me list some reasons of my idea, that I feel will potentially stop and benefit from.

It may stop-

*Skype impostors
*No need for PM's
*long confusing scam reports
* and potentially alot more issues

Let's face it sythe is great but people abuse the shit out of it because they are assholes and 13 most of the time. Anything to turn sythes reputation around and have users trust each other more will help.

PROS-
*simplified scam reports
*No pms
* all information on the trade local and easily viewed/ no confusion
*who is involved
*what type of trade
*probably many more PROS

The idea-

It's real simple basically a trading form. With functions such as :
*Sending users a trade request
*Type of trade selection based on sythe's markets
*Currency being used
*Comment boxes for the trader's involved to post the screenshot and other info they would need incase the trade was scammed or charged back,
*A report this trade button which would open a scam report posting the trades info and letting the user add any additional information.
*any other information boxes one would deem nessesary such as Skype, IM, or any other contact methods.

Essentially this would open another thread for this such as a vouch thread only allowing the participating users to ability to see the trade that they had created. To save confusion on finding the trade form and adding additional information they may have forgotten, they would automatically be prompted the link location at the end of the trade as well as PM'd the link.

If anyone else thinks this is a good idea or have more changes to make this better please post it. I do believe this will allow at least a little bit more control on the ammount of scams if sythe had a standard form to follow instead of hoping you have asked for the correct information and are talking to the right person incase a scam occurs.

*** By form I don't mean some cheap ass text to follow I mean legit dialog style user friend point and click type form. I know there are alot of people on here capable of creating such a simple thing.



VERY basic view just to help picture it-

Starting the trade



Filling trade information out. After selecting the user they would have before hand, gone into their account information and setup the shop they have so you will only be able to choose what they have picked as acceptable payment To them and the services or items they sell. After which you would submit the trade request sending the an automatic Sythe pm.




Here is where all of the trade request forms both accepted and rejected would go! They would be User sensitive so only the parties involved in the actual trade can view that information.

 

Sounds like an overcomplicated way to pm somebody using a format.

I love how you are trying to fix this huge problem, but I personally don't believe that making it harder (requesting a proper PM isn't hard at all) fixes the issues.

 

Why is this always a response from a mod? If it's harder, automatic no.

The trading system isn't working and that's obvious. I think that something that OP suggested would be good.

>Fill out type of trade
>input skype info if applicable
>etc, other stuff, blah blah blah

Yes a PM is sufficient, but some people somehow get PM'd trapped and it always seems to happen. I've never had anything wrong with a PM, but many others have.

 

Because the market is filled with people who don't know trading habits and don't know how to trade properly.
Think about how we are going to explain this system to somebody who doesn't know what this new system is.

For people to stay, you have to make the site easy and user friendly, and complicating easy methods, such as a simple properly laid out PM isn't easy nor user friendly.

 

I'm not sure thats very viable given that vBulletin is specifically built for forums and I'd imagine it is rather inflexible (unless you have a lot of spare time, which our admins do not) when it comes to things which aren't fitting the normal forum format.

A number of individuals have been pushing for Sythechat to be improved though, which would eliminate the problems of fake skypes and skype hackings. No idea where that is at currently.

 

I may have explained it wrong cas. I meant PMing is just one issue it can solve. I mean it as you click a users name and along with view profile there could be an initiate trade or request trade.

It would all be automated and salve soo much time including having mods look for info for scam reports. and a user cannot deny the trade because they would have to accept the trade request and everthing in it

 

Not saying this method is most viable. However, a simple VIDEO stickied to the section would cover it all.

Seems like a good chunk of suggestions are turned away cause it's too hard or too much work.

 

http://gyazo.com/abd086b57a7802643310dbc8312a09f5

^^^ what's the difference it could look just like this, there's no reason this would be hard to imput into a trade form.

just add-
*user trade request
*auto pm/thread create/ scam report button
*trade options instead of what I posted.

All he tools are literally laying around sythe it would just need a little tweaking I'm sure govid could EASILY do this task he seems to be a beast at creating and tweaking user stuff on the site.

Trust me if I knew enough on how to create something like this I would, but I don't just yet.

 

How many newcomers do you think would use this format?

What happens if a user dosent use the format? (which believe me, many wont)


tldr no support.

 

As I stated it would change to the way sythe trades. any other trade would be at your own risk, why would anyone want to use another form of trade if the site has an official way of trading and potentially safer. Also this is not a format

 

Im pretty sure this has Already been suggested before (from what I remember) and was denied.

 

I support this. Sure some newcomers won't use it, but it would technically prevent a lot of scams.

 

I don't see why. There's a HUGE issue and NO control over the way trading is conducted. At least have everyone jump on some solution to regulate trade better or remove the mods who are too "busy" and get people on who are willing to work on things.

or here's another sugjest.

Put a task standard that volunteer devs would need to make by creating something showing their skill. and Assign them things like this.

 

We cant force a newcomer or whoever to fill a form. If its optional, the newcomer wont even do it. The only reason its a big problem here.. It is because newcomers dont read the rules/tips. If they would be smart.. They would request a pm.

As for the seller doing a form, it would take wayyy too long. When I was doing business, I often had 3 customers at the same time.. I cannot waste my time to fill out a form for each of them each time.

No support for the moment. I dont think The suggestion is the solution.

 

I see I'll see what I can come up with to tweak how it would work. Speed would be essential to. this all is just off the top of the head basic layout I'm sure it can get very technical and very user friendly especially for sythe gold sellers and bigger services

 

if you wanna design the form and post a pic of it maybe it'll get a better response

how to: copy the code (i.e., right click, view source) from the gyazo link of the date of birth etc boxes you posted and edit it until it makes you happy. i dont think it should be that hard...

but anyway, I'm still against this as it a) restricts trade by making everyone's life more difficult and b) isnt vastly better than pms are now. but happy to change my pov if you have something convincing to do so

 

Thanks superfluous i was thinking about doing that but that form was just the best example I can find as someone above said forma don't work in VB forums. I Might not be able to tweak it to what I picture but I'll try

 

What I meant was that it is possible, but it'd require a lot of work.

 

I mean it really shouldn't be hard work to do. All features that I placed in the functions or the trade box are used on sythe. Soo it would be fairly simple and fast

 

No support

If someone doesn't know how to request a PM, frankly they shouldn't be on the site. It is in no way a complicated procedure. Hell, all they have to do is read a sticky if they're confused about something.

Sythe is a forum that makes it possible to trade (among other things.) The forum itself does not need to get involved in that process.

While making a forum/sub-forum is simple, adding in these features is a waste of time. Definitely when it's not something that everyone can do.