MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer/1788618-lol-you-guys.html

 

The reason why no one of you can see any of these posts is because they're in DONATOR SECTION

Look at the top

Spoiler: Proof they're in donator

I've spoken with David, owner of Ikov and he told me very interesting things. XerX3s is all about money, the ONLY possible reason why he ever cared and edited the post is because he surely has something going on with you.
David didn't want anything to be posted public, I'll SEND PROOF to FireZ in a PM.

EDIT: For the part where you all wonder, if XerX3s is such a good hacker, why did he make a mistake like this?
The answer is simple and clear, he's selling access to an Ikov Database in donator section and he wants to gain more sales. He writes how much he have made which is "9k$", but also not to lie to customers and make them think that they also can earn such amounts, he includes that he was partnered up with Dave, Moes6223 and Soul Rich.

 

Lol, wait, David the owner of Ikov explained to you why this random hacker edited his post on this thread? I'm sorry but what in the fuck of anything does that have to do with this situation? My grandmother also told me when I was younger that I was going to be the President of the Unites States someday, I mean I guess I could ask her why X3r edited his post as well?

The post you just made literally has nothing to do with anything. The proof I've sent to FireZ shows him who the supplier that Moes works with is, and I'm also calling bullshit on your whole David owner of Ikov has the answer to all your problems theory.

Soul Rich has perfectly explained that he hasn't even sold GP in the past 3 months, so I'm pretty sure your whole report is bullshit. I apologize for the aggression but now I'm pretty sure you're just messing around and trying to stir up drama.

 

The current Moes6223's supplier is probably safe and clean. I've written this many times, we're talking about the PAST not CURRENT. You've partnered with XerX3s.

Let's start with saying that what you all wrote here makes perfect sense with what I sent to FireZ, all dates and timing is fitting perfectly. It's like puzzle pieces where you drag n drop. FireZ will be able to see it himself once he reads the PM.

Now for you 3.

Dave: you've never been into the ikov market and all of a sudden you start selling huge amounts? How does that come?

Soul Rich: I believe you've dealt with XerX3s and you were probably the first one to deal with him. You said it yourself, "Point 1: I have sold NO ikov gold from the end of october to the beginning of December.". The database was hacked in July.

Moes6223: A month after the Database got hacked, you opened a thread and started to sell hundreds of billions.


Dave cut the crap, if you really think you're getting away with nothing, then you're dreaming. A lot of proof have been sent to FireZ and you're connected to other things.
I don't believe I have anymore to say, I've stated everything. Now it's up to FireZ.

 

I don't know if I just haven't made it clear or not but I'll try to put this in smaller words so you get what I'm saying. I have worked with Moes for about 3 weeks now, that's why I have started to sell Ikov gold. This supplier I am working with, which I have Pm'd FireZ proof of, is indeed clean and is the only person I have worked with while being Moes' partner.

Thus, these claims of $9k sold in the past month to us are absolute bogus because for the past 2.5 weeks we've been working with the supplier that I Pm'd FireZ about lol. So unless this guy is claiming to have sold $9k worth of gold in about a week, then I don't really know how he's possibly claiming to have worked with me when I haven't worked with any other supplier but the one we're currently dealing with.

I honestly hope to god you're trolling, because if you're trying to pin something on us from the past with this guy claiming we've "partnered" with him... that's impossible because I literally just started selling Ikov GP. Nevertheless I'm just gonna leave this be, because now I'm pretty sure you've just wasted this time messing with everyone

 

I'll try my best to be very clear now!

Basically, you're trying to draw yourself out that you've ONLY worked with Moes6223 with the current supplier. However, Moes6223 announces he needs a new supplier 12-12-2014. You wrote "Selling" on Moes's thread 12-06-2014 (Look at the bottom spoiler).

So you DON'T know if Moes6223 have worked with XerX3s in past before you started working with Moes6223?

I think we can agree that Moes6223 have HAD 2 SUPPLIERS so far. He got a new one after 12-12-2014 BUT you were active on the thread before 12-12-2014.

Mous6223 announcing that his supplier can't supply him anymore and he needs a new one.

Spoiler: Date 12-12-2014

Date 12-12-2014

3 Days later, XerX3s announces that he's selling access to the Ikov DB. Already cleaned out all the rich people, so he makes more cash selling access to the DB.

Spoiler: Date 12-15-2014

Dave, we can both agree that Mous6223 has had 2 suppliers. Mous6223 says it himself anyway. I'm not saying you're wrong, I believe that Mous6223 has a new supplier now, however, he have dealt with XerX3s and you were with Mous6223 before he switched supplier.

Spoiler: Dave 12-06-2014

All this is like a quote from a previous post, please don't make me repeat everything over again each time. http://www.sythe.org/14220769-post13.html

 

From the old supplier to the new supplier - my total involvement is so:

Day 1. I trade 1 user, log on to do a second trade, account is banned.
Day 3. I get a contact request, guy wants to buy, I log onto the account, account is banned.
Day 6. New supplier

If you don't believe me, you can ask your buddies on Ikov staff about this. Doug himself is the one who put in all those bans and him and I spoke about it, he knows that no GP was even moved so when I'm saying I didn't even do any of the trades with any of the old GP, I'm not fabricating anything or making it up. You claim to be on good close terms with Ikov staff, ask Doug yourself.

Regardless, who's to say the old supplier that Moes worked with is the guy you're claiming to be this all-star hacker? Unless you can provide some legitimate proof that the two users are one-in-the-same then this ENTIRE report is junk. I've looked through every single chat log Moes has had with the guy backing all the way to November 5th (the earlier date I can see on his skype) and it's literally just "hey sell me 200b" "sure" "thanks"

Your whole shpeal about working together and partnering is literally based solely off some guy posting saying "I am working with X, Y, and Z." That is the only proof you have. Just as easily as I could go on a site and post saying "haha guys I'm hacking people with the user youarefraud from sythe"

 

FireZ, I just got messaged on Skype by a user who seems to know a bit more about a lot of the users involved and even claimed he has a skype of the Xer character from this site.

I'm Pming you the chat logs (photos) and I'm going to ask that you add this Xer person and ask him to show some type of proof that he has spoken to any of the users stated in this report and that he display at least something to validate youarefraud's claims.

 

My first post, for those who have not read it: Click here.

I have clearly explained with proof how my gold is obtained, how I sell the gold & how I do my trades. I will now try to expand on the points you have made about me, which are:

Your words: "Soul Rich: I believe you've dealt with XerX3s and you were probably the first one to deal with him. You said it yourself, "Point 1: I have sold NO ikov gold from the end of october to the beginning of December.". The database was hacked in July."

Firstly, show the proof when exactly the database was first hacked. I don't want your word, you are a nobody. Let's start with some points again, from your incredibly flawed thinking. You have not thought this bullshit through in any way.

EDIT: Beginning of December is what I thought, turns out that I did a trade on the 27th November. Only a few days difference but I'd let you be informed before you cause more drama.
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POINT 1: From the statement above, you said: "I believe you've dealt with XerX3s and you were probably the first one to deal with him. You said it yourself, "Point 1: I have sold NO ikov gold from the end of october to the beginning of December."

HOW, in any way, shape, or form, does that show that I work with a hacker? Your logic is absolutely mind blowing.

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POINT 2: So, you claim this database was hacked in July. Let me point something out to you, sir. I WASNT ACTIVE ON SYTHE, FOR THE WHOLE OF JULY, AND LAST HALF OF AUGUST.

This is because I went on holiday in July, then I was back for 2 weeks, and then on the last half of August went away again. I still have the flight tickets saved on my phone rofl, if it comes to the extent you want proof of this, if the proof below isn't valid enough for you, sure.

PROOF: Look at the DATES of my posts on my ikov thread, from POST 49 ONWARDS! Click here!

You can see 1 bump on July the 2nd, and one bump after that on August 3rd. This whole month I was away. Then I went away again on August 19th till early September.

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POINT 3: I have shown with proof that I was away/not active on sythe for the whole of July, last half of August and late October till early December.

This leaves the possible times I have done trades as:
- 2 weeks in August
- From early September -> late October (very few, close to 0)
- From early December -> December 15th (when hacker posted that thread selling the database).
PROOF (look at date posted): http://i.imgur.com/f3M95FQ.png

Now, let's look at those times again, and lets look at how many vouches for sales I got during that time:
- 2 weeks in August: 2 vouches for sales (Posts #50-90, pages 3-5, total of 30B in vouches, worth $30)
- From early September -> late October: 0 (Posts #95-175, pages 5-9, total of 0 ikov sold. Why? Explained below.)
- From early December -> December 15th: 0 (Posts #181-195, page 10).

I did close to 0 trades on Ikov from September->Late october, as I have already said, I was ranked in a staking clan, but my account was banned for RWT, so I was sharing an account with a friend during this time. Ikov was not worth the time, but I didn't want my threads to die, so I carried on bumping it. You can see it was done less regularly than usual (1 bump/day), when I usually do 2 or 3, and this was because I bumped all my threads either before or after I started to host, as you can see by the timings I posted at. I started to make serious $ when I managed to get my own account and a higher rank, which is the time period from October end -> early December, when commission staking was removed+that account got banned. I can very easily provide proof of this, other ranks from the clan I was in are on sythe too.

As I have already explained how my trades are conducted (see my last post for information) this makes it difficult for me to do trades, as the person who wants to buy ikov has to be online at the same time someone wants to sell. Adding to this my prices were extremely high in comparison to others, as already proven on the last post. I barely got that many sales. Once again, you can clearly see this on my thread, with the lack of vouches there are for sales. I wouldn't have even been available to account for 1/20th of the amount stated that was apparently sold.

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POINT 4: Here is a picture of when this Xerxes (the person we are being accused of being 'partners with' to help him sell his hacked gold [Note: OP is accusing us of KNOWING it is hacked.]):

http://puu.sh/dKThJ/cd3ecdd216.png

Note, this picture was not taken by me. In fact, this picture was sent to me by PM by the OP himself, who said its from a conversation between Xer/Dave.
This shows he added me on 13th September. You can clearly see, he doesn't say 'Hey, want to by my ikov gp, which I hacked from a leaked database?' He simply asks to sell ikov gold. The rest of the entire conversation is literally me asking if he has gold in stock, and him not replying 85% of the time. This is because, as I have explained and shown proof, when someone adds me to sell ikov, I add [IKOV-S] to their name, and go through the list asking if they have gp if someone asks to buy ikov. Then there was 2 trades that we ended up doing, the last being at the end of November (November 27th). Proof of this can also be easily shown to FireZ. Also, before you ask, I say 'Not atm, too much stock' or something along those lines, every single time, whenever someone wants to sell me ikov gold, but there is no buyer online, or if I can't be bothered going to find a buyer. Like I have said, I cannot physically login to Ikov to hold any gold.

Although Xer claims the gold he sold me was 'staked' as the pictures on Daves post show (LINK HERE), it obviously may have also been hacked. I obviously have no idea the gold is hacked, thus the gold that was sold may have been hacked - but did I know about it? NO.

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EVERY point you are bringing up is from NOWHERE, you are trying to stir shit with your over dramatics. Let me elaborate.

> Your words: "Soul Rich: I believe you've dealt with XerX3s and you were probably the first one to deal with him. You said it yourself, "Point 1: I have sold NO ikov gold from the end of october to the beginning of December.". The database was hacked in July."

How, in any way, does that point show that I work with him? That makes no sense. Your attempt in trying to back up your point failed miserably.

> Your words: "It doesn't make any sense.. XerX3s the hacker who have ruined hundreds of servers and stolen thousands of dollars, caring for 3 members of another community."

I couldn't put it in better words than Dave. Just because the hacker edited his post after he saw this thread, you suddenly jump to conclusions that he 'cares' for us and that we're his 'partners'. Then the hacker posts: "LOOOL what absurd accusation is that?" (can be seen here) after he edits his post and removes our names. Anyone with half a brain cell can see this is clear trolling, he's not taking it seriously at all. Think, the picture of his post with our names on it is already on this thread (can be seen here), him editing his post would have no meaning or effect. I'm sure he is as smart as you claim him to be, he would understand that.

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SUMMARY

- I have shown how I obtain my gold, with proof.
- I have shown how I do my trades, where I get my profit from etc, for the few trades I do actually do.
- I was away the whole of July, and last half of August, proof shown above.
- I was not active from late October to early December, proof also shown on last post.
- I did close to 0 trades on ikov from September -> late October, explained above.
- I didn't even get many sales to cover 1/20th of the amounts that have been claimed to have been sold rofl, proof also shown above.

This is just ridiculous.

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I believe $9000 is an exaggerated amount in order to get sales of his hacked database.
I also believe that if this is true, the only way he did sell gold through us would be by adding us normally pretending to be a normal person selling ikov gold. We would have no idea that it was hacked. 3 trusted ikov sellers wouldn't randomly, all simultaneously agree to working with a hacker. Jesus.

 

Moes came to ************ some time ago and was looking for gold because xerxes referred him to abuse with us.
http://gyazo.com/8e8ac5547c5d80fcc9f842e40d92aa89
In the original post, moes said he was looking for a bulk supplier because his old supplier (xerxes) referred him to that website. But then once he found a new supplier, he edited his post as you can see on the gyazo screenshot.

 

If the contents of the post above are legitimate and Moes was indeed invited by xer and Moes stated on that post that his old supplier xer was no longer selling then this case is legitimate against Moes.

Can you get some proof to back the accusations you've posted Adam?

Edit: apparently the above post isn't actually yousuck

 

I'm baaaaack, with another update -

I was on Moes' skype as always looking for sales and the old supplier logs on and messages Moes thinking it's Moes -

http://puu.sh/dKYIN/61dbbb2020.png

Proof this is moes' previous supplier -

http://puu.sh/dKZsB/9dffbaa8fe.png

I then added him from my own skype and asked him a bit about the situation at hand, in hopes of finding out whether or not he was Xer. Turns out he's not, but he's friends with Xer -

http://puu.sh/dKYLz/df378639b3.png
http://puu.sh/dKYMc/cc0a4ed1cd.png

Jake then adds me into a chat with Xer. Proof it's actually Xer(including timestamp from my own computer, I'm PST) - http://puu.sh/dKT2m/c29b6e5646.jpg

Here are the contents of that conversation, first I got some information regarding who the two are, waht they do, etc. Then I asked about this post and I was told by both Jake and Xer that the original post contained very different information than the post presented by this report -

http://puu.sh/dKZuH/a73122d3cb.jpg (the bold on the users name is a hyperlinking of the abusewithus account - that's what I was told). Notice on here there are no edits or anything like that. Then i asked for a photo of the current post and I was given this -

http://puu.sh/dKZwc/aff5c4ddf8.jpg (edit time is shown)

Here's the photos of the whole convo. In this convo Xer admits to trading Soul Rich once but also never told him where the GP came from nor did he ever tell soul rich who he was. The two traded once for 25B and that was it -

http://puu.sh/dKZip/eb03129ff0.png
http://puu.sh/dKZj3/d4d08e0418.png
http://puu.sh/dKZjK/412253b728.png
http://puu.sh/dKZks/da9a5d5632.png
http://puu.sh/dKZl1/d03e4d7870.png
http://puu.sh/dKZlI/b53613f5f0.png
http://puu.sh/dKZmh/5e57c8a3ff.png
http://puu.sh/dKZmR/b29dc7a2a4.png
http://puu.sh/dKZoa/a846e1a349.png

 

Oh hahahaha! this Jake..

Could you please do some background check on Jake, it's so unlikely that a random Ikov GP seller happens to have connection with Xer considering he's so cold-blooded and doesn't care about anyone. (I've CLEARLY shown FireZ in a PM why XerX3s is so coldblooded)

Let me start of with, you show only chat logs with Jake, but no dates. It says "10 AM" it could be any day, the scroll bar is easy to fake with bunch of spamming.

So basically, Xer, the owner of a forum, gave you this picture

Spoiler: This Picture

And it's somehow more legit than what I've provided? As an OWNER, I'm pretty sure you can easily do such edits without a problem.
For the second, are you really saying these 2 pictures are FAKED?

Spoiler: These 2 faked?

Not to be on any side, but I believe it's easier to EDIT his picture with PAINT than it's doing with my 2.
Why was his post edited then? You're going to take the word of some blackhat from abuse with us?

Now here's some REAL PROOF that this Xer and Jake guy are full of crap. Now David, don't you go editing your thread too.

Now, PAY ATTENTION to the right side of these 2 pictures, where it says "Likes Received". These pictures are from the 2 links David provided above.

http://puu.sh/dKZuH/a73122d3cb.jpg
http://puu.sh/dKZwc/aff5c4ddf8.jpg

Spoiler: PAY ATTENTION TO THE RIGHT SIDE

Just a bit below his REPUTATION, You see "Likes Received 230" on both pictures.
Now if you look at my pictures, they show 227.

Spoiler: Look at the RIGHT Side

This means, that this picture http://puu.sh/dKZuH/a73122d3cb.jpg IS NOT the Original post! It's from a later date when Xer has received more Likes.

I predicted something like this would occur, so on the date I made this thread, I vidded the edit that Xer made. You can clearly see his Likes Received and anything you wish.

Watch in 720P!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKGyTYWrXG0

This video below includes the current Likes received he has on 12-27-2014.

Watch in 720P!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsE_p5dEjX4


With this proof, you can tell that Jake and Xer are both lying.

 

So what you're showing is that Xer is a liar? Thus backing the point I've been trying to make this whole time.

Also, for the sake of staying on topic - where's this solid proof that Moes or Soul Rich have been knowingly dealing with stolen goods? Been waiting for this from your first post :love:

 

Yes I'm saying he's a liar, however, there's a BIG difference between a mistake and a lie! On the post where he wrote he's working with Dave, Moes6223 and Soul Rich, that was a mistake and NOT a lie.
It's not possible to provide such evidence you require unless you hack into their skype and read their conversations. However, XerX3s admitted himself that he's working with you guys. After that, you guys have been working on falsifying evidence to prove your innocence. I showed on the post above you that all you wrote about Jake (Previous supplier) and such is a BIG LIE!

Oh really? is he the previous supplier? If you really were innocent all you 3, you could EASILY have provided solid proof of the PREVIOUS Ikov GP supplier. I've written MANY times that it's about the PAST and NOT the current Ikov supplier!
HERE HERE

I just proved in this post HERE that the guy you claimed to be the previous supplier is just another lier who's in very deep connections with XerX3s.

The thing is, I had the video I recorded on the date I made this thread saved until you made the mistake on trying to falsify proof. Now go ahead and make up another fake story.

 

Not gonna keep bothering with walls of text, my final question to you is:

Is the point you're trying to make that Xer was my dealer for the past 5 months? If so, feel free to PM moes and ask him about it, cause I've sold gp for 3 weeks and I've given FireZ proof of the guy who supplies the GP I sell.

Other than that, I'm still waiting for the proof that Moes knowingly sold hacked GP

 

You haven't given us the required proof that these 3 knowingly bought stolen gold. All your proof has been based off speculation and ignoring evidence supporting them as "lies" and any evidence supporting you is "mistakes" on them slipping up. Unless you can give us more solid proof it's no from me

 

Ignroing evidence? What are you talking about? You are corrupt staff!

I haven't ignored anything, I asked him to prove me who his PREVIOUS Supplier is. Dave posted pictures claiming that guy "Jake" was Moes6223's previous supplier. Jake is in deep connections with XerX3s and they even faked the fact that 'Dave, Moes6223, Soul Rich' have ever been mentioned on that forum.

You're ignoring my evidence of proving them wrong, Go to this post HERE and read all in the quote + my reply underneath.

Dave has so far spoken for Moes6223, he has also been on Moes's skype and claimed that a LIER (Proved in my post above) is their previous seller.
Basically, you guys have FAILED providing proof of where you have obtained the gold before.

What you ask for "Get proof that they bought it knowingly", are you retarded or just acting retarded? Since it was a mistake by XerX3s revealing who his partners are, ofcourse they've already erased all conversations to make it look clean. It's impossible for ANYONE on this planet to gather proof of what you ask.

I'm also very happy that FireZ is handling this report and not the CORRUPT staff who stick up for each other and ignore everything I've provided.

If you guys were that innocent, you wouldn't of falsifyed PROOF! Which you did HERE (It's the post where I prove that you've falsifyed proof)

 

You are literally beating around the bush, and jumping to stupid conclusions so fast.

You are accusing, 3 trusted members of sythe, of partnering up with this guy simultaneously to sell his hacked gold for him, knowingly. You are literally saying, he added us, and said:
'Hey, I have some ikov for sale, I hacked it all btw.' You don't understand the simple fact, that if someone decides to sell his hacked gold, obviously he would not say the fundamental point of the gold being hacked.

As for 'Xerxes', I have had no fucking clue who this guy was till this report was posted, and I had no idea he was on my Skype contacts till I checked yesterday, once Dave found his Skype. It turns out he has done one trade with me, for 25B (worth ~9M 07, under $20), just under a month ago. Before you say how I didn't know I had him added, I have 2133 contacts on my Skype. Don't ask me how I didn't remember his trade, when I did one trade, one month ago. Proof can easily be shown to FireZ when he is reviewing this report.

As for this Jake on State Farm person, he has NEVER spoken to me. This can also easily be shown to FireZ when he reviews this Skype.

There is literally no more to be said till FireZ reviews the report.

EDIT: Just saw your post. If you are asking us to show proof of where we gold our gold from, I have literally explained it fully on my first post, with complete evidence. There is literally nothing more to add.
EDIT2: Now I see you make a thread in the general discussion section. You yourself are doing no favours by shit stirring. There is not 1 point Dave from his post gives 'false' information, he was simply passing on the information that was given to him.
EDIT3: You're using a VPN (can see from your IP log). You're a donator of a hacking/blackhat forum. You are trying to hide who you are (obvious by the fact you made a Skype and tried to add me, called 'youare.fraud'. My guess is that you are an ikov staff member who is trying to get us to stop selling gold. He has now told me he has made sure he hides his identify as much as possible so no-one can trace back to find out who he is. Why? Who knows.

 

I don't know much about Soul Rich, I sent him a PM and a Skype request. I'll have a chat with him and we'll see where it goes.