Miniranks transfered to those scammed by the user.

If a user scams another user who has tradeable miniranks, the miniranks should be given to the user as some sort of compensation. Since they're banned, they don't need them anymore. Didn't see this anywhere else, if this is already a thing just call me stupid and close it. Thanks.

 

For the 75%+ of us who give -fucks about miniranks this wouldnt help a bit.

People already can claim miniranks from banned members that scammed them, but it isnt treated as proper compensation. More like a consellation if anything.

 

It's not too bad of an idea since the miniranks can be resold at a decent price.

 

I realize it's not a proper compensation. I saw as this. If bob scams mike for $50, and bob had miniranks worth around $30. Mike can sell them and recover a small portion. Then if bob wants unbanned, he still has to refund Mike, leaving mike with a bit extra for the time/stress it took him to do the report, losing the gp. I didn't see this being an actual rule yet, or stipulated in most cases and feel it should. Punishes the scammer even more, and assists the victims in a recovery of $ even the smallest of amounts would help.

 

There were already few refunds done through minirank restore (eg. Coinking, einqebildet, elena)

 

I along with alot of the sythe community didn't know about this i'm sure. It would be nice if this was made publicly available and not just for huge ass amounts. I feel it should be deemed a real rule.

 

I'm actually fine with this, count me down as supporting. This is a de facto rule, and I benefitted from it by getting one of the first refunds this way from Elena.

This also has the benefits of increasing activity in the (recently-lagging) miniranks market and giving users something tangible that can be awarded in the case of a scam. For example, new users who know nothing about Sythe can read a simple minirank guide (that we can create) that explains the differences between non-tradable, tradable, and temporary miniranks, why they hold value, when they can be awarded from a scam report, etc. Thus somewhat intangible things like vouches and donor status can be supported by somewhat more tangible miniranks in scam reports... though this might serve to make miniranks > vouches in terms of importance... but then again, miniranks have to be bought... eh, I'm cool with it.

I would, however, put a time limit on minirank transfers. So like if someone's temp banned while sorting out a report, they don't forfeit their miniranks. But after 10 days or two weeks after the report, if it's unresolved and not diligently being worked out, one's miniranks are subject to seizure.

 

no support. I don't even believe in miniranks. It's worse less than RS pixels IMO.

 

If 1/2 of your post made sense, I would refute it. But... Yes. No. Maybe? I don't really know what the hell you tried to say there. This is a method for those who were scammed to recover some portion of their amounts and your saying no support? Alright then! I also agree on the time frame, i'm sure staff will setup that part, I feel 7-10 days is plenty, unless it's being dealt with, but if no response for 7 days it's obvious they have 0 intention of repaying.

 

No. I don't offer support for your idea because miniranks being worth something is ridiculous.


Sythe Wallet has been a disputed suggestion for years. This is just a spin off of that except you can't place an exact value on sythe.org pixel.

Example: A scams B for $50 PayPal (dicing)
Person A has pokemon pokeball thingy, it's transferred to B
Person B sells it for $10
Person A comes up with the money and wants to repay.
Person B says "no problemo $40 and it's done"
Person A cries because they feel pokemon ball is worth $30 not $10
Person B wants his $40
Person A only wants to pay $20 now
Person B says no way
Person A repays nothing and never returns to Sythe.org officially (only vades)

As for Richard or other staff who have permission to give out miniranks buying it back, no supt there either.

 

You didn't read the full post obviously. It's extra compensation along with punishment. If he sells a pokeball for $10, He is still forced to pay full $50 before being able to appeal. It will deter people who scam and own miniranks.

 

still no support. this is not a site for scamming for loans and then paying back with interest.

 

Miniranks have an undefined price. If there does come a time when a scammer wants to pay back, that person shouldn't have to fully pay the debt if you have some of his/her valuables. Because these prices are undefined it would only cause trouble and confusion on the amount he or she owes the victim.

This deters people from paying back the victims. Let them keep their stupid miniranks.

 

I don't see what's wrong with making miniranks collateral to help prevent scams. People will be less likely to scam if they know they'll have to forfeit something of value as a result. If you deter people from scamming, they don't have to worry about paying people back. I also suggested a 2-week time frame for them to refund before they lose their ranks, thereby preventing the "short term loan" pardon system (your words) from being as effective. I don't disagree that there are drawbacks; would like to see some mod input.

 

Ghast stole the words out of my mouth from earlier in the thread.

And no. People will suddenly put [MINIRANK TITLE HERE] as a sign of trust in the title.

[Heidi][$5 Donor][Highly Trusted]ACCOUNT SHOP [0% Chance of Recovery]

ect.


Also if there are multiple users scammed, how do u divi-up the miniranks? The miniranks have undefined values so how do u spread them.

Still no support.

 

Most scammers don't have miniranks and if they do it's untradable. If this rule comes into place, wouldn't they sell their miniranks before they attempt to scam?

What you're suggesting causes interference with the restitution of the victim, mine doesn't. Before pardoning the user must pay back the victim. I was suggesting they pay a one time fee that scaled from the amount scammed in order to pardon. < - This would again be mandatory if they are accepted back into the community and get perm banned. (Not for multiple pardons that are declined within the time of the first payment).

This is revenge that contradicts our teachings. You don't see cops ransacking the homes of burglars and determining whether something is of value so they can take and not count it towards the amount the burglars owe. Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

You can ask for this already if you're scammed and they have any tradeable miniranks.