Dicing and the drawbacks. Your opinions?

There has recently been a lot of drama circulating the Donator lounge thread for dicing. This thread is not to discourage dicing as that's a completely different topic and has already been discussed in another thread and I believe dicing brings a lot to the community, assuming everything goes sweet.

Anyway, back to my point. I think there should be some strict rules regarding dicing, obviously rules cannot cover every single part, as there are many different unlikely scenarios which could occur.

For example: Member 'X' and member 'Y' are dicing for 10M, consisting of 5 rolls, best of 5. If member X and Y roll the same number for the first 4 rolls (tie), and member X rolls higher than player Y for the 5th roll.

This example obviously can cause un-needed drama if both participants don't come to an agreement on what should happen, and cause arguments. Member X could say "I won 1/5, you won 0/5, therefore I have won", and Member Y could counter the argument and say we didn't have a best of 5 as we tied 4.
Examples like this need addressing, i'm not sure how, but they do.

Basically, my point is, there are many flaws (obviously many many advantages too) with the current dice system on rare occasions and these occasions can cause uproar within the community.

Do you guys have any ideas how this can be stopped? Please do not say "Remove dicing altogether" because that has already been discussed and the vast majority agree with dicing as it brings the community closer in most situations. Please also take note that not every single scenario can be accounted for, there are many many extremely rare scenarios that could occur, therefore a different solution must be made.

Post ideas below.


Some ideas:

-Make all ties rerolls, no matter what the scenario.

This obviously does not mean re-roll the entire dice, for example: If player X won 3/5 in a best of 5, and the 4th roll was a tie, it wouldn't be a re-roll as Player X has already won. The re-roll would only occur when the outcome of the dice relies on the roll that was tied.

 

Seriously? Anyone that debates that if you're doing a best of 5 and you tie 4/5 and the person wins 1/5 and you win 0/5 they win simple as that. Instead of putting "best ofs" just say most wins in X amount of dices. Clears all confusion.

 

It's an unlikely situation though, so the "norm" thing to say would be best of.. But that's a solution. lol

 

True. Unfortunately wording is crucial in dicing situations. You must stipulate the rules with hopefully no misinterpretations possible.

 

im not sure if this is meant for staff only but in my opinion its become too big I think dicing has become more than just small fun bets in donator lounge. If anything they should limit the amount people can bet to $50 unless its done outside of donator lounge. It doesen't seem like people understand dicing fully, i see people dicing you $100's, you payout but with that kind of volume people are basically trusting you with thousands. I dont know you and I can only assume you have the best intentions but I also don't think people realize this.

 

The main problem in my eyes is greed. People get way to greedy, they see a chance to get free money, and when they lose they don't like it. Another thing, when people lose some money, they get pissed off, and ask for double or nothing or make the bet much higher, so if they win it pays off and if they lose, they just don't pay and to them, it was worth the risk. It's the only problem atm in my eyes.

 

This. Not that hard.

 

Well, I don't know.... personally, after reading up and following all the disputes that have occurred recently regarding dicing, I believe that before you start to roll or dice with a particular person, be sure to PM, or post on thread or skype the 'rules' of the roll and both of you MUST agree before playing. That way it will cause less confusion and disputes later on...

 

Or you can ask the person their definition/idea of "best of 5".

Before dicing with anyone, both participants should understand what is what.

 

I think it's easier said than done at times, people can find the smallest details and pick faults so they don't have to pay. So much greed.

 

Dicing seems to bring out the bad in people and has done nothing but cause drama, bans and otherwise ruin a shitty section (sandbox). Oh and all the cute "im addicted to dicing woe is me" threads lol.

I think it was a terrible idea and just causes more work for staff. Just my .02 , I never cared for it in RS either.

 

Doesn't seem to hard to agree on a set of rules before accepting.

^ This should be a must. Loopholes are created by one party not understanding the rules.

 

I've gone easily into the $1,000's in Sythe dicing. I'd say you basically just need to know the people you're dealing with well enough - you simply don't dice with those you don't trust to be honest and reasonable.

 

I got scammed by a guy with SVU/$200 for $100. He also had OMM applications and more.

IMO, he's someone you'd trust.


EDIT:

I've also gone way into the thousands, but i've only had 2 problems.

 

No, you were scammed by a well-known hacker. It doesn't take rocket science to figure that one out.

 

Nothing more to say than this. Well put.

 

Who?..

 

This is stupid. Specify your rules clearly and agree on who wins for all possible outcomes and you should have no problem. If you want a simpler dicing existence, play a simpler game with the same odds.

 

Wording can be very important when dicing in ur situation with unb4nned I would have thought that the fairest would be to reroll the 2 tied rolls as best of 3 does mean first to 2 in which u only won once but that's only my opinion and the situation is already handled.

Also, just dice with people you trust if u don't want to risk getting scammed its rlly that simple in my opinion

 

Ooga.