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@Sythe
  1. Unread #21 - Jun 11, 2014 at 9:56 PM
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    A best effort at compensation when the victims cannot be located is acceptable for pardon eligibility (and always has been.)
     
  3. Unread #22 - Jun 11, 2014 at 9:56 PM
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    Hattez was unbanned after the picture incident because it was found out that he wasn't involved in it (was sleeping during the conversation). He was later banned for something else (I don't know the reason).
     
  5. Unread #23 - Jun 11, 2014 at 9:57 PM
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    ok. cool. i feared it would be required or it would not be considered.
     
  7. Unread #24 - Jun 11, 2014 at 9:58 PM
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    As I understand it he did leak some of Trin's personal documents maliciously even though it may not have been photos.
     
  9. Unread #25 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:01 PM
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    Would that not generally be a one month ban though for leaking information? It seems that the only reason the ban was changed to permanent was because of who it was.
     
  11. Unread #26 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:07 PM
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    technically that is what that particular rule says.
     
  13. Unread #27 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:08 PM
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    The crime was the hacking of her email and being complicit in that hacking and document release. That is a perm ban.

    www.sythe.org/sythe-org-news/148431-official-sythe-org-rules.html
     
  15. Unread #28 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:10 PM
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    You know very well that not every single one of us who were lumped together hacked her e-mail. From my understanding it was a few BA members and Alex_J_Leon was used as the scapegoat even though he was not involved (maybe because of his past role at BA). Even pornography is only a one month ban, but got extended due to the same reason, even though they were not involved in the hacking. Our conversation on Skype was literally just a "troll-n4n0" chat and had nothing to do with the hacking.

    To add to this, Hattez was asleep during the hacking. You have the chat logs in the staff lounge, it's easy to see that he did not speak and was unbanned from that.
     
  17. Unread #29 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:13 PM
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    all the people in your dumb "troll n4n0" chat should be lined up and shot.
     
  19. Unread #30 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:14 PM
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    Anyway man I respect you and would love to continue this discussion, but don't want to get too involved due to conditions set on my unban. It's just sad to see the site that you used to love so much slowly going downhill due to lack of activity from the upper staff members and then this stuff coming up, reminding us of what we've seen in the past.

    I'll refrain from posting regarding this any more, but I just wanted to clear Hattez's name for him.
     
  21. Unread #31 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:14 PM
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    We didn't know how bad it was going to get. It started off as us calling him out for other things and ended up with us getting pictures from BA guys. No one expected it to go that far and I feel awful that it did and even worse that I was a part of it.
     
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    everyone who was banned from being in the chat deserve to be permed and have their accounts deleted.
     
  25. Unread #33 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:18 PM
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    All I'm hearing is: "I didn't rob the bank, I just drove the get-away car with the robbers and stolen money in it! At best I should get a speeding ticket!"
     
  27. Unread #34 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:19 PM
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    "Oh look money on the street that feel from that speeding car. Let me take that."
     
  29. Unread #35 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:20 PM
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    It'd be more like someone robbed a bank, showed us pictures of it, and we showed the pictures to our friends. With your analogy it'd be like saying we all logged in to her hacked e-mail, or even had prior knowledge that it was going to happen. The pictures were dumped on us and we had a laugh with them, that is it.

    Even SuF's is more like it. We found money, showed our friends what we found, but never used the money because we knew it was stolen.
     
  31. Unread #36 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:23 PM
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    you should have called the cops... but did you legally have to? do you get to keep the money? will you go to jail if you don't return it? if you don't report it??
     
  33. Unread #37 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:24 PM
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    I invited Yaroow into the chat and he reported us, so technically you could say I was just helping out.

    That was a joke... I know I wasn't helping out, but it's besides the point right now.
     
  35. Unread #38 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:25 PM
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    meh i was just pointing out shit
     
  37. Unread #39 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:26 PM
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    That you had knowledge that the pictures/documents were from the hacked email and you shared them anyway makes you complicit. I'm sorry but this is really splitting hairs.

    The personal information rule is about documents that are generally otherwise public (such as whois information) that get posted. When private documents are stolen from an email or other personal account and shared around -- with knowledge -- this falls into black hat as far as I'm concerned.
     
  39. Unread #40 - Jun 11, 2014 at 10:27 PM
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    At first we actually had no knowledge of where it was from. If you read the chat, it was later discovered.

    While you're right, I still think the bans are targeting the wrong people. You guys never went after those directly responsible. They should be the ones paying restitution.
     
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