Y'all need some more mods

Posts in dedicated section needs to be taken into account also. This is a step in the right direction however. Activity outside of reports needs to be encouraged, the current system is far from perfect as it does not truly measure how effective a moderator is.

More posts of lower quality is better than less posts. If anything I think the rules need to be a bit more lenient on responses so as to not choke activity.

I wasn't really here in the golden days but I'd say nope. While staff activity participating in a forum is a good sign and boosts activity, it's only minimal. While it's only minimal however, I do believe majority of moderators should be actively posting but that just isn't the reality. It's been said before that it is only policing and not encouraging activity. Ghast, while staff actively posting is not the one true answer to solve this, do you not think they should make the effort to do so? With staff posting around actively it really breaks down the divide between staff and regular users that farcast touched upon that exists. We shouldn't be saying it isn't the way to go because it won't solve everything, this isn't a problem that will be an easy fix - we should be thinking "okay, we've got that, what else can we do?"

While all moderators ask for honest feedback whether it is good or bad there is always the drawback of posting legitimate feedback. When a person receives a compliment they naturally are receptive and like the person who issued it more. When one receives criticism however, it is hard to remain objective about the person who gave it and take it on board without your view of them slipping slightly. Several people on this site no doubt still want to be a moderator and do not want to hurt their chances in any way, shape or form so that's why they'll always sugar coat everything. While the truth is better for the site as a whole, brown-nosing is a lot easier and better for the individual. For example, when I was trying for moderator circa 2012 I gave out negative feedback to multiple moderators who I felt weren't pulling their weight. While it wouldn't be the sole reason I wasn't promoted (I was still pretty immature at that time), it was definitely part of it. Is there a fix for this? Not really since you are trying to combat human nature which is the problem.

Since the staff have the last say it's a win/win situation

 

As was said a few pages back, a lot of this thread is related but not exactly on topic, so I'll make an effort to be on topic:

I don't see how adding more mods is a bad thing. There may not be a need for them at present, but having them around can't hurt. Things that need doing will get done more quickly, and things that don't need doing but would be nice might actually get done. Instead of going on and on about how things should change, promote some people and see how they do. Worst case is you demote them and try others. In the meantime, more people will have a chance to contribute to the community, and perhaps some of them will turn out like Entrr.

 

I'm on the fence about letting people poll for moderator consideration. Seems like an easy way to stack up a corrupt staff.

I haven't administrated a VB forum in a bit so I forget if there is a feature for this (though I'm sure someone around here is bright enough to make it work): but the best way to implement something similar to a "Poll" without making it an outright poll is to have a thread where responses are automatically hidden where people can suggest staff and reasons why. The way that staff is chosen now may very easily overlook worthy candidates (e.g., if there are no mods who frequent the LoL sections, then they wouldn't know all of the stuff that Sellerman posted earlier).

 

I didn't say it was off topic lol. Also you went on to say "There is many things to be discussed than the market itself and it is rising daily." I don't see what there is to talk about other than the rise and fall and the sales of bitcoin. At least with game currency, there is also THE GAME to talk about. But BitCoins only discussion would be about the rise and fall of bitcoin, which shouldn't be hard to moderate. Also, this entire section is essentially a market. I agree there may be a need for a mod there, but I don't think it's an important position that helps Sythe grow as a whole. All it really does is keep Sythe clean.

As for voting about the next staff and such. I agree with Jack Goff that it is technically a win win since the high staff get the final say either way.

 

That is literally the exact opposite of what I mean, lol'd irl.

I meant that you should be mod and not have to be in some half-assed shitty usergroup when you do more than staff.

 

Oh, xd, my bad lol.

 

Never heard of this before. I see no harm trying(?); as the end say and decision is still with the Staff.

 

can someone please tell me what frenzy does? throughout my entire time on sythe ive seen her post maybe 6-10 times. and dont give me that "behind the scenes" worn-out bullshit of an excuse.

and whose bright idea was it to promote subaru fan????????????? he didn't do shit and furthered being a retard by suddenly dropping off the face of the earth without prior notice?

also, besides from instantly vetoing pardons and mass banning people what is it that n4no does as admin exactly?

 

I agree with you on Subaru Fan. I remember he rage-quit Sythe initially due to the fact he was caught cheating on a referral competition, and lost his competition winner rank; then made a leaving thread for attention, and left. I'd have thought doing that would show his true nature and temperament. This would be the only odd promotion I've seen, that hasn't panned out.

Thread I'm talking about: http://www.sythe.org/introductions-farewells/1495323-fun-few-weeks.html

However, most other promotions we see as odd, have nearly always panned out. The best example I can see is Entrr. I don't think anyone knew who Entrr was when he was promoted...but look at him now. He's one of the most committed staff members. So it's not really fair to question odd promotions.

It would be awesome to have some insight from Richard on what he thinks in regards to change and progression. Is he aware of the discussion at current here?

 

^Totally agree about Entrr. Nobody new him really until he was promoted, and he's probably one of the biggest assets in the current Staff Team.

 

we dont need robots as mods (every single sectional mod atm btw). we need people who are innovative, people with personality.

chloecat is a perfect example. she had potiential to be a great mod. im sure im not the only one who noticed it, but during/after the halloween event last year activity forum-wide increased tremendously for a short period. from what i heard, she was the brains/mastermind behind that event. but no... her reward for putting so much spirit and time into the community and that event was getting banned/shunned for the lamest fucking reason in the books. trying to counter-scam a known thief to prove johng was dishonest and associating with and assisting ooga??? really??????? (he still is btw)

 

By the things you said so far,i complete understand that you have zero knowledge about Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency at all.
I hope not everyone think as you,because if they do,Bitcoin would have value of 1-2$.
If you don't think crypto's deserve time and they won't grow the newcomers income,then i believe you was sleeping last 2 years
Don't get me wrong but if you can't understand from everything,but if you like to discuss everything,you should read little bit more about.
Edit: Even with the small Crypto market here,i see daily newcomers coming here or been redirected to register because of the btc/ltc/doge trades so far.

 

Let's get more towards the topic, ladies.

Zeus, I agree, yet don't. Robots are fine, they get part of the work done. Not everyone should be a robot though. We need the creative and innovative people.

I can't agree or disagree on Chloe either, as I don't know her one bit.

 

I used to heavily involve myself with the "drama" or "criticism" of sythe. I learned quickly that it wasn't worth it, because voicing your own opinion turned into bans and personal vendettas. I still think it's like that. I read until page 6. I'm going to hurt some feelings.

This is simply my opinion and personal experience has let me to take on this perception of the moderating team.

The current staff is not personable. I don't really respect them from what I've seen them post, and the whole staff seems like, to me, a group of buddies. They don't seem to really care about the members of the site and just enjoy having their moderator status.

N4N0, when you first got mod you were great, made yourself available on Skype, frequented tiny chats where you weren't narcissistic, YOU WERE PERSONABLE, people liked you. Now nobody does, and if they do it's because they want to be a part of the moderator team. You brought your real life into your moderator position and make everything about you. You handle things immaturely and act like you're a god here

FireZ, again, you're not personable and you used to be. You used to be that nigga who worked at a hotel and was always around to assist somebody if they needed it. You were the new Skele_Master too and tracked down tons of scammers, you were respected by all. Soon, you became distant and seemed to think you were the shit. Explained ban reasons turned into "denied" "no" "lol". As a member of these forums for a long time, I lost all respect for you a while ago. I'm sure you're still that guy I used to know, but you don't show that anymore and as an important moderator here you should be setting the example.

Getting my account back under control was the hardest thing to do. Luckily, Superman and I have history and he was able to sort me out. Respect for that Superman because none of your other mods had anything to say. If they had straight up told me "Hey man I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with your ban, I'll get back to you in 10 minutes" I would have been totally fine with it, but instead I would message a mod "Hey, I need some assistance" get one response and then they'd go MIA.

tl;dr

staff think they're too cool, all buddies, don't see anybody genuinely looking out for their community, nobody makes themselves available when they're online, i know they've got other shit going on too but it won't kill you to help a nigga out - you're the damn mod, srs attitude problem on staff,


So what I guess I'm saying is this: Maybe it's not the amount of staff you have here, but which members you promote. my 2 cents

 

I like Entrr on staff and agree with your post

 

Also really agree with this post

 

I will post my proposal here or in community input once staff have all weighed in and I've made all the changes I need to.

Essentially there would be 2 types of section moderator. The sectional mod who's job it is to meet quota and do reports and the community staff who's job it is to promote activity in their subforum and upkeep the stickies, make suggestions to improve it etc.

For now, as the proposal lies, community staff would be in a lower staff lounge than regular sectional moderators allowing currently conservative (for the right reasons) staff be happy with some people who may have already been polled but not passed for whatever reason. It also means the new lower tier is more disposable and we can change them up more readily than how the current structure is because they wont need to think about rasc/rasp/disputes.

Bit harsh I think, personally. There are a good few mods who are really enthusiastic. Team morale has dropped incredibly between staff, pretty much the opposite of what you'd expect from a "bunch of buddies".

 

Regarding the "FireZ/Corey types":

We do need strong backbone in the staff, but they also need to have the maturity to speak out in a respect manner. You can't make being rude and unprofessional acceptable because you "need a dick in your staff"

this is coming from the nigga who played checkers with corey when he was just a young active member, so i'm not saying this because I personally don't agree with FireZ's approach. Corey's was wrong too, but not to the extent I've seen FireZ's

 

I really can't name more than 3 enthusiatic mods. I'm sorry. Again, I really believe the problem lies in who you promote over how many you promote

 

It's easy enough to say promote better people but it's a different story thinking of names where there's no qualms about their behaviour or history and so forth. The above proposal will hopefully combat this.

There's nothing wrong with the modscore types, just we need an injection of community types. Calling out individual mods can go in respective individual staff feedback, it's not really fixing the problem to do so here.