Changing the way members are verified

After a bit of research, I've figured that the "SVU" rank is just a buyable rank that really does not protect the interest of other members.

No matter how much "no SVU-ranked member is 100% trusted" is told to other members, there will still be a lot of people who base their trades off of people who do have the SVU rank.

I can easily update my Paypal information to some random city anywhere in Canada or the US, and still not have to worry because the SVU process depends on people paying the $5 fee, to which it'll record the sender's information (where the information is wrong in the first place).

If you really wanted to "verify" a User, I think another method should be introduced. As an example. this method involves the User filling out a form including their home address and their phone number. Once received, Matthew can send a piece of Mail containing a PIN code to said address. A call or SMS will also be sent to the User. Once the phone PIN is received by him/her, he/she will go to the donation center and enter it in the Phone PIN section.

A week or two later, the User will then receive the piece of mail, open it up, and find another code. He/she will then go back to the donation center and enter it in the Address PIN section - and voilà! The User has not only given his/her personal phone number, but has given up their address as a more secure gesture of trust. The fee can even be bumped up to $10 to cover the cost of the SMS service, envelope, and stamp. This should be how a User truly gets verified.

This still ties in with the current method where the user has to receive a text or a call to get the PIN, but now offers a different aspect.

Many companies who use verification for their site use Mail verification, including Google/Youtube.

Hopefully this does what I intended it to do, and changes up the Verification process. Thoughts?

 

I support it but I think it would require a lot of work.

 

I think it'd be too much work for the person that has to mail all those pins.

 

That is a lot of work. Then the person mailing would probably want more money, increasing the cost of svu.

 

It's not like they aren't making any money off it, $10 to drop a envelope into the mail box isn't to much to ask for in my opinion.

 

could always raise the payment to 40$ to get verified then, i think most people would want to pay even tho its expensive, but its 100% secure then.

 

I supported it didn't I? I was just stating it would require a lot of time.

 

I think that it would require too much work in order for the very little security that it adds.

 

Maybe it can be done twice a week at most?

All Matthew has to do is buy a stack of envelopes and a roll of stamps.

I think there would be less people wanting to give up their address, and if you mix that with the fact that Matthew has to go to the postal place anyways to pick up donations? Well...

Little security it adds? You're giving up your home address. How is that a "little" security.

You just contradicted yourself. Why did you bother verifying yourself then? Clearly not for the "minimum security" that the current method has. Like I said, you can change your Paypal address to anything. I think your statement really speaks words to the general consensus of SVU - just a flashy title to gain a bit of trust.

 

Jagex run an extremely similar process similar to this when they hire Player Mods. You essentially fill out your info and everything, and they send a letter to your house with the code. You enter the code on the site and it gives you Player Mod.

With mailing, remember people live parts of the world where sending from the United States can be pretty expensive overseas depending which country its going to. I doubt Matthew will cover the costs for the mailing, so the verification could actually cost more for some people depending on their location.

 

I'd like to think that most of Sythe's users are based in the US, where Matthew lives. A roll of stamps is not expensive at all, so when you figure that maybe 1 out of 20 people live in foreign places where stamps costs a bit more, that should not be any problem at all. If you want to calculate it out, just take the net profit from the fees of the 19 other people and divide the foreign stamp cost into it, it would be mere cents from each of the fees. And again, it can be a $10 fee.

 

Well maybe if the user does want a Sythe Verified Rank and would on their side do this, maybe if they'd payed a fee on side for this to all happen then I'm sure Matthew or whoever the mail mod would be wouldn't have a problem doing this if they'd be making money throughout doing this service

If the money was upfront then they'd be motivated to continue the service through, if they're was a team for instance, who kept a track database record of all the payments and who's verifying their home status then I can't see there being so much work to do really. It'd be one way of officialy being part of the Sythe community

 

Wouldn't calling the residence work on its own? It'd prove that you actually live where you claim to be. Admins would need to buy some skype credits or find a free VOIP however, which isn't too expensive.

 

Yes, the current $5 fee can be bumped to $10.

The payment can be sent first, then everything happens after the payment is received, so it's upfront. And it doesn't even have to be Matthew who sends the mail, it can be any other trusted staff member.

The problem with that is that you can give any number you wanted to. You can go to your grandparents house, use that number, wait until you get the phone call and get the PIN to verify yourself.

And in the future, if the Staff have to give the phone number to law enforcement, they'll arrive at some innocent, old lady's house.

 

Support if the price of this process wouldn't go up too much

 

I think this is going a step too far.. Sending people mails to verify they're real? I don't think any forum does that.
Also, creating a paypal with fake information is illegal, so most people would actually give their real details.
Just my opinion though

 

I don't think it's going to far at all wouldn't it make people feel better knowing that there is a site that actually makes sure trading security is up to par.

 

Remember that currently it's only verification level 1, I'm sure that when more levels appear there will be slightly different ranks (like the number at the end)

 

No, think about the international users. Would take forever and we won't be fully "verified" unless you're Richards classmate.

 

Matthew said there would be more levels... of course the first is just having a paypal ID linked, which is useful.

Support, but no need to remove current. Just be patient.