Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

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Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods
  1. Unread #81 - Mar 1, 2013 at 8:04 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    It was 100% what he meant in that thread. He was saying "if someone has fraudulent funds and can pay you via PA, accept the order, and take screenshots, then PA will be reimburse you."
     
  3. Unread #82 - Mar 1, 2013 at 8:04 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    They apply to everyone.
     
  5. Unread #83 - Mar 1, 2013 at 8:16 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    OK. Do it, and post them as scam reports. And the staff will deal with them individually.

    If they want to trade here then they will have the same oversight.

    For the one billionth time. We only ban people for knowingly accepting stolen goods. I honestly don't think the sky will fall, as you are insisting it will, if gold sellers stop purchasing stolen goods. In fact I think the opposite will happen. Starved of a place to put their goods, scammers will begin to vacate the market. You've already seen what a fuss they are putting up that we are enforcing this.

    Anyone who buys gold knowing its hacked will be responsible for paying it back.

    If I have to ban large players from the market for dealing illegally then I will.
     
  7. Unread #84 - Mar 1, 2013 at 8:21 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    Gold4Fun got back to me and said they have spoken to their workers about the aforementioned incident.
     
  9. Unread #85 - Mar 1, 2013 at 8:31 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    I'm glad this is all being done and I think so long as it's enforced fairly it will be a positive step for the community. It's just important that absolutely everyone is involved in making it a reality.
     
  11. Unread #86 - Mar 1, 2013 at 8:33 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    I'm treating it on the same level as scamming.

    Gold sellers will want to protect their reputations as well as their capacity to trade on sythe. I would like gold sellers to be proactive and have a little pride in themselves and where they source their gold from. Obviously this isn't something that rules will change, but consider that your buyers will be better protected if you take a little time to work out where your gold is coming from.
     
  13. Unread #87 - Mar 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

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    I didn't notice it's hacked rs gold at beginning, and it's a entrapment obviously~

    IMO, as recovery
    1,As buyer. After i bought the account+ gold, the original owner took it back(with no reason), then i recover it back again, it's legal.
    2,As seller, if i sell acc out, then recover it back(with no reason), it's illegal
     
  15. Unread #88 - Mar 1, 2013 at 8:50 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    Just tried it on alex2012/Theresa and she is fully willing to buy stolen gold.
     
  19. Unread #90 - Mar 1, 2013 at 9:05 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    You just have to read more carefully my friend.

    I'm sure if they'd said they were going to pay you with a hacked paypal or a stolen credit card, that wouldn't have escaped your notice. Please use the same due diligence.
     
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    Thanks for clearing that up, also Kevin no hard feelings didn't mean to insult your character. I agree with you he entrapped you but good on you for refusing it after. I hope gold sellers/ buyers stay careful of these people who are trying to entrap them.

    Also thanks Sythe for clearing it up and I can vouch gold4fun no longer buys hacked/ stolen gold. In my opinion I think an announcement needs to be made about the issue in the official news as well but that is just my opinion.

    Also SuF thanks for clearing up Viou's ban I'll agree with it if everyone in the future will be punished under the same actions Viou committed.

    Also the guy entrapping people please stop, you are wasting your time until the official rule on the matter is released.
     
  25. Unread #93 - Mar 1, 2013 at 9:36 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    You're right Richard, i'm ashamed about it, it wont' happen again:embar:
    As you said, we gold sellers should be proactive and have a little pride in ourselves and where the gold from.
    The customers trust us, likewise, we need to take full responsibility for them.
     
  27. Unread #94 - Mar 1, 2013 at 9:41 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

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    Dear vader,

    You will no longer be able to access this forum once I ban this account, as I have shut off registration to IPs that match other accounts.

    But before I ban you, please post a scam report with your information regarding anyone who is accepting stolen gold.

    Thank you.
     
  29. Unread #95 - Mar 1, 2013 at 9:48 PM
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    I'll post a report now, love you Richard xoxoxo
     
  31. Unread #96 - Mar 1, 2013 at 9:49 PM
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    Heh, I'll be interested to see if you can get back in.

    List of things blocked:
    Re-registering same IP -- blocked.
    Tor exit nodes -- blocked.
    VPNs -- blocked.
     
  35. Unread #98 - Mar 6, 2013 at 12:08 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    Seeing as R2P had warned his workers and then that happened after surely they should face the consequences.

    Lets say I try and sell recovered gold to a newcomer which isn't actually recovered, could they get me banned for saying I'd recovered gold? Surely the evidence you be flipped back onto me.
     
  37. Unread #99 - Mar 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    What?
     
  39. Unread #100 - Mar 11, 2013 at 9:02 AM
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    Question for Sythe in Regards to Stolen Goods

    What happens if
    • I contact someone offering recovered gold
    • They agree to buy
    • I terminate trade and make a RaSc
    • They make a RaSc saying I sell recovered gold, even though they never saw it etc

    I said I had recovered gold, so can that be used against me even if I don't have any? Like how can we catch them without the chance being flipped back onto me.
     
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