Ex-Staff changes to keeping moniker

After reading this http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1481420 SF thread about an exmod LEGITIMATELY wanting to sell drugs on the forums i feel that there should be some behavior requirements to keeping ex staff title.. People with the ex staff moniker should be required to keep some degree of professionalism as staff are expected to, after all they both reflect on the site as a whole.

It mainly reflects poorly when people are acting really rude to others outside of SF, this guy wanting to sell drugs is just a special case. It should also be considered to remove the ex-staff monikers after extreme cases of inactivity, it seems a number of scams have occurred with ex-staff coming back after extreme inactivity.. whether they were hacked or not ex-staff is pretty much instant trust in many peoples eyes and i doubt some of the scams that have taken place among ex staff would have been anywhere near as severe as they were had they not retained the ex staff title. I dont mean to suggest punishing people for inactivity but inactive ex-staff seem to not only be HUGE targets for hackers but a number of them end up perpetrating scams after returning from a long hiatus.

Just something to consider, not trying to rustle feathers.

 

I'd support removal of the rank for inactivity like we did for the OMM rank. Makes sense.

 

Yes, it should have to be reasonable though, they DID earn the rank.

 

I agree, maybe something like a confirmation method ? I just cant really come up with a good idea as to make sure its the person in question especially when people come back after 1-2+ years of inactivity. Ex-staff is a revered rank, and are often considered trustworthy by others people who are inactive pose a big threat to their account being compromised and them not even knowing because of their inactivity. And sometimes they just come back to scam, i seem to remember seeing staff say they KNOW Pen scammed and that it wasnt a hacker. It seems if people dont have any interest in the site for a looong period of time and jump right back into the market usually have ill intention and pose a threat to the community. A temporary TWC or something ? Like i said in OP i dont want to punish people for inactivity but there is a threat presented

 

Take the rank off and give it back at staff discretion after a while if they wish to become active again.

 

Regardless it is a status rank that denotes trust. We have to place our users above ex-mods. If they are inactive for a long period of time they should lose the rank for the safety of our members with a method in place for them to get it back (even if that's just be active for a few months).

 

So what actually defines the criteria for an Ex-Mod rank?
As long as some proper guidelines are set up regarding the requirements to keep the rank, I'd support.

 

3 months of service without demotion for breech of the Staff Code if I am correct.

 

Yes, you're correct.

 

No support. They deserved the rank, I don't see why it should be taken away from them when they become inactive. OMM and Ex-mod ranks are different.

 

Absolutely no support... this is a ridiculous suggestion, who gives a crap if they're professional or not? They're a user like us now, they're not a mod. They earned the rank, they should be able to keep it.
Besides it is the spam forum, stop crying and get over it.

 

No one here is suggesting we rob people of earned ranks. Read the posts throughly and you would clearly see that. But inactive staff accounts should at the VERY least have some more account security constraints to prevent them being hijacked as they have in the past. Some of the biggest scams on sythe have been due to hijacked old exmod accounts or exmods coming back and abusing the implied trust that comes with their rank. I understand if they earned their rank they deserve it, but leaving for long periods of times can and has shown changes in character for better and often for worse...

Something like the above would benefit the community alot as a safety precaution

 

The only reason I agree with this is because some ex mods will come back to 'cash in their rank' and scam.

Not because of the spam forum.

 

^ Didnt read the rest of my OP. You saw SF and stopped reading, no one is "crying" over anything, but its beyond me how some guy could have ever been staff with such a feeble grasp of the rules to where he had to ASK about dealing drugs online lol. It was an example, not the point. Read the whole post before raging . My comment about ex staff acting unprofessional is just that, a comment on how it looks to me.. it reflects poorly. And its not even some of your SF buddies im referring too, but someone with exmod rank asking about dealing drugs (and being dead serious mind you) is ridiculous. Edited it so sf fags like you wont get your jimmies rustled before reading the actual point of thread.

This has nothing to do with spam forum thats just some guy who acted ridiculously, thats not even my main point of contention... its the people who come in and abuse the rank like some have in the past. That and the fact that inactive exstaff accounts are potential goldmines to anyone who could hack them and they wouldnt be caught very easily due to the inactivity of the original owner.

 

Sorry, i didn't have to read the entire thread to know that you're complaining like a little bitch about someone who created a thread in the SF about "selling" drugs, i only had to read the first sentence. If this wasn't the point of the thread then why the hell would you even add it?

You also say IN YOUR FIRST SENTENCE that there should be a behavior requirement (LOL WHAT???????) to keep the ex mod title. Even more ridiculous than the rest of the suggestion, LOL.

Also, I did reply to your suggestion about removing ex mod ranks because they're inactive, i'll repeat it again; NO support, they earned it, they should not be stripped out of a rank for no reason. This is the same reason why OMM's should not be stripped out of their rank if they're inactive, they earned it they should keep it.

Have a good day :noworry:

 

If an ex-moderator is inactive, does that change the fact that he was a moderator? No, it doesn't. The rank is a token of appreciation for the volunteer time the individual put in, are there some risks to having an account with ex-mod status not being used for a while, sure, does that mean we should strip them of their ranks? No. Once you go down this road, there will be even more added. What next, you get an infraction as ex-mod, it gets removed?

No support.

 

Safety of the members is more important than your silly rank.

 

You guys are missing the point entirely, i said explicitly im not suggesting people be punished because of inactivity. But rather emphasizing the fact that ex moderator status implies trust within the community, if someone drops off the site for 1-2 years any implied trust should kinda be checked at the door for a little while while the person gets back into the site... im just saying history has shown on im fairly sure than more than one occasion that ex staff that drop off the face of the planet to return at a much later date usually do with ill intent and are sucessful namely due to their ex moderator status. Im not entirely sure of what type of thing could be done to prevent this im just presenting the issue at hand and am open to any inpute, the fact that the ex moderator rank has been abused because of implied trust is undeniable. Inactivity doesnt make them any less deserving of the ex staff status, in fact members like you come back and contribute to the community and are productive members.. there has been an issue in the past, im merely trying to drum up some ideas on how to prevent this in the future not trying to rob anyone of anything.

@austin, grow up. I edited out the shit you posted about (before you posted this mind you) and you STILL go on about it, that wasnt my point and including it at all was a mistake which i edited out to keep guys like you from complaining any further. I digress, keep your shit talking melodramatic BS in the spam forum.. i pop in there from time to time feel free to rage there.

 

Perfectly put. I saw the post that the OP refers to and it's quite ridiculous. The guy is basically asking to get arrested, and makes the whole site look bad if people see this kind of calibre person being an administrator, even if it was a while ago.

 

I'd like to think most ex-moderators have a decent amount of vouches. What stops them from coming back and scamming people because the trader see's the ex-moderators vouch count? The ex-moderator rank shouldn't imply trust, it should only imply that X user was a member of staff for at least 3 months and didn't breach the staff code.