Should Dicing Be Allowed on Runescape?

[Zerkerfist]

I have often had this same idea. You can argue it into the ground, but dicing has really changed Runescape in significant ways. Dicing was never around when I used to play Runescape, and after I come back in June, there are people advertising dicing every single main place you go, whether its the grand exchange or a bank, or a popular activity. Lots of people use this as either their #1 source of income (some players probably play RS ONLY to dice, nothing else) and alot of others also use this as a great means to scam other people out of their hard earned cash. It usually takes getting scammed once or twice to realize that you should only dice with trusted clans. I know I learned the hard way

But yes, it is very clear that the majority (atleast a very large portion) of RS players are unintelligent/ignorant 12 and 13 year old kids, and exposing them to this greedy gambling culture at a young age is probably a bad thing. Do I really care though? No, not really. Personally, I like to dice when I have some extra cash around and I am feeling lucky. Just wanted to say that I support your argument.

 

[that tank kid]

I have often had this same idea. You can argue it into the ground, but dicing has really changed Runescape in significant ways. Dicing was never around when I used to play Runescape, and after I come back in June, there are people advertising dicing every single main place you go, whether its the grand exchange or a bank, or a popular activity. Lots of people use this as either their #1 source of income (some players probably play RS ONLY to dice, nothing else) and alot of others also use this as a great means to scam other people out of their hard earned cash. It usually takes getting scammed once or twice to realize that you should only dice with trusted clans. I know I learned the hard way

But yes, it is very clear that the majority (atleast a very large portion) of RS players are unintelligent/ignorant 12 and 13 year old kids, and exposing them to this greedy gambling culture at a young age is probably a bad thing. Do I really care though? No, not really. Personally, I like to dice when I have some extra cash around and I am feeling lucky. Just wanted to say that I support your argument.

Couldn't agree more Thanks for your opinion

 

[Emperor Nero]

One should exhibit self-control, that is one thing that you have to learn as an adult. If you have an addictive nature then you really don't need to play it. If you are trying to argue morality you begin to get pointless because video games aren't there to teach people morals. Hell public schools don't even teach morals.

The only way this will stop is if Jagex was to take dice out of the game, if you are worried about the children then I wouldn't quote someone in my sig using a derogatory term.

tl;dr: If you're smart then you know when to stop, if you're addictive then you should know not to do addicting things.

 

[SmperFidelis]

Kids have to learn sometime. Better they learn now with pixels than in real life with their bank account.

 

[Shaaaaun]

IMO I don't get Dicing because I have seen some threads a WAD scamming heaps of money.

Dual arena has an Automated Middle man. So there can be no scamming Whatsoever

 

[that tank kid]

One should exhibit self-control, that is one thing that you have to learn as an adult. If you have an addictive nature then you really don't need to play it. If you are trying to argue morality you begin to get pointless because video games aren't there to teach people morals. Hell public schools don't even teach morals.

The only way this will stop is if Jagex was to take dice out of the game, if you are worried about the children then I wouldn't quote someone in my sig using a derogatory term.

tl;dr: If you're smart then you know when to stop, if you're addictive then you should know not to do addicting things.

That's why there is an age limit of 18/21+ to gamble, the whole point of this thread is saying, It shouldn't be displayed to children in a game.

ALso this statement: tl;dr: If you're smart then you know when to stop, if you're addictive then you should know not to do addicting things.

That's like saying if your fat don't eat junk food. but thats besides the point, it doesn't stop them eating it. That's what an addiction is.

Kids have to learn sometime. Better they learn now with pixels than in real life with their bank account.

Some kid's don't learn though, and it actually does effect some in real life as they have bought their GP that they have just lost in a bet.

 

[Zerkerfist]

IMO I don't get Dicing because I have seen some threads a WAD scamming heaps of money.

Dual arena has an Automated Middle man. So there can be no scamming Whatsoever

I always thought dicing could be improved if there was a system in place kind of like a trade window, where you could secure your bets and make sure that the host pays out and has enough cash on him to cover the bets. There would have to be some sort of way for a host to still make their cash and get their cut of the money, but the system would ensure that the correct person would be paid out after the dice was rolled. I am not 100% sure how they would do this, but if there was a system in place it would atleast cut down on the thousands of scam reports they must recieve constantly about people "hosting" dice and logging out as soon as a big bet is placed. Jagex claims that scamming is unacceptable, and is not tolerated in their game, yet having something like dicing in RS just creates huge opportunities for people to scam and cheat each other even further.

 

[that tank kid]

IMO I don't get Dicing because I have seen some threads a WAD scamming heaps of money.

Dual arena has an Automated Middle man. So there can be no scamming Whatsoever

I always thought dicing could be improved if there was a system in place kind of like a trade window, where you could secure your bets and make sure that the host pays out and has enough cash on him to cover the bets. There would have to be some sort of way for a host to still make their cash and get their cut of the money, but the system would ensure that the correct person would be paid out after the dice was rolled. I am not 100% sure how they would do this, but if there was a system in place it would atleast cut down on the thousands of scam reports they must recieve constantly about people "hosting" dice and logging out as soon as a big bet is placed. Jagex claims that scamming is unacceptable, and is not tolerated in their game, yet having something like dicing in RS just creates huge opportunities for people to scam and cheat each other even further.

I don't think they could do this as that would actually be a legit gambling area. I'm pretty certain that would be illegal, as its promoting gambling to underaged persons.

 

[Eternity Gaming]

Yes, gambling should be allowed in RuneScape. Alchohol use/gambling/sexual images in platform games are rated E or E13+. Runescape is 13+.

Suggesting the removal of gambling is similar to removing all bars/beer/liquor from the game.

 

[that tank kid]

Yes, gambling should be allowed in RuneScape. Alchohol use/gambling/sexual images in platform games are rated E or E13+. Runescape is 13+.

Suggesting the removal of gambling is similar to removing all bars/beer/liquor from the game.

The game players are not actually engaging in drinking alcohol. When they are betting their cash to a "host" that is actually gambling.

 

[Zerkerfist]

I don't think they could do this as that would actually be a legit gambling area. I'm pretty certain that would be illegal, as its promoting gambling to underaged persons.

Well my idea there completely contradicts my previous post where I stated that dicing really shouldn't even have a place in Runescape because it promites gambling and greed. I still stick with my opinion that dicing probably shouldn't be allowed in a game with a demographic of kids under 15. But since dicing IS a part of Runescape, and Jagex allows this, I have always thought that there may be some way to improve it so that there would be minimal amounts of scamming incidents. There are alot of negative things that are a direct result of dicing, like greedy kids being encouraged to scam because they know its extremely profitable and easy to get away with without punishment, aswell as thousands of honest people getting scammed because they place bets with a scammer instead of a legitimate host.

 

[BotsInc]

Its just a game, nothings wrong with it

There is no such thing as dicing, its a made up game for people who want to gamble with runescape money. Thus its not allowed unless its OK by Jagex, not because its not ethical, but because runescape is governed by the rules set by Jagex. We merely use their property for entertainment and happily pay for it.

 

[DevianArt]

All OK with dicing game,just ignore thoose little kids!

 

[Coinshare]

I'm addicted to it

FFS

I've seriously lost over $1k+ just dicing.

Lol, I wish I never ever ever ever ever tried it..

If only I could travel back in time...

 

[Zerkerfist]

I'm addicted to it

FFS

I've seriously lost over $1k+ just dicing.

Lol, I wish I never ever ever ever ever tried it..

If only I could travel back in time...

One of my good friends on RS in my clan got hardcore addicted to dicing. He literally sold all of his items to keep funding the cash he needed to dice, and got cleaned more than once. Each time he was lucky because the host would give him a few M to start back up with, or his friends and clanmates (me included) would donate large sums of money to him to get his stuff back. But he couldn't stay away, got cleaned one last time, and quit RS. He logged in this past weekend for the first time in 5-6 weeks just to chat, but he has no desire to play RS anymore because he has no cash to dice with. It's pretty crazy how much he changed since he began dicing. Before he got into dicing, we used to hang out all the time and go PKing and kill bosses and train together.

 

[that tank kid]

I'm addicted to it

FFS

I've seriously lost over $1k+ just dicing.

Lol, I wish I never ever ever ever ever tried it..

If only I could travel back in time...

That's sad to hear mate, let's hope you can stop now

Have you just lost bank, Bought GP to try and make what you lost originally? :/

EDIT: I don't understand why people keep going back when most hosts are wearing a santa or phat bandos and a herb cape lol. Obviously they don't lose much ; )

 

[Coinshare]

That's sad to hear mate, let's hope you can stop now

Have you just lost bank, Bought GP to try and make what you lost originally? :/

Lost a Yellow Phat, I keep buying gold and losing it, sold all of my stuff to keep feeding my addiction.

People say drugs are addicting, fuck that, DICING IS THE REAL MONSTER.

I can control it but damn, dicing is the only thing that I find amusing in RS now. The thrill is just amazing.

All I want is what I lost but that's impossible to re-gain lol.

 

[that tank kid]

Lost a Yellow Phat, I keep buying gold and losing it, sold all of my stuff to keep feeding my addiction.

People say drugs are addicting, fuck that, DICING IS THE REAL MONSTER.

I can control it but damn, dicing is the only thing that I find amusing in RS now. The thrill is just amazing.

All I want is what I lost but that's impossible to re-gain lol.

Yeah that sucks man, Are you 18 yet?

Do you think you'll keep going?

And there is only one team in LondonCPFC

 

[x339]

Personally I don't think its really a big deal. Kids are exposed to gambling in other ways such as playing a card game, or even play rock paper scissors for some toy. Kids already get the exposure to it, so dicing won't really effect them anyways.

 

[N01s PeRfecT]

I'm addicted to it

FFS

I've seriously lost over $1k+ just dicing.

Lol, I wish I never ever ever ever ever tried it..

If only I could travel back in time...

This isn't Jagex's, or Runescape's, fault though. That's what this all comes down to. Dicing should be allowed because it is an element to the game. The game was never meant for people to buy or sell mills outside of the game. The proof is that if you're caught doing so by Jagex, you're banned.

With that in mind, the world of runescape is supposed to be free to evolve and adapt to become it's own without limitations.