Another teen commits suicide over anti-homosexual taunts

[Snatchmasta]

Kids will always bully other kids. Has anyone read Lord of the Flies? Learn to stand up for yourself or one will always be bullied. It obviously didn't get better.

The extent to which homosexual children are bullied is shocking. They aren't just roughed up for their lunch money, they are pariahs of their community. How do you stand up? Should he have fought someone?

When gay children try and stand up for themselves, this is what happens

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...ions-in-Slaying-of-Gay-Student-128477318.html

The system is fucked up, the fact that our youth are indoctrinated into a cycle of hatred is frightening to say the least.

 

[xx Sean]

cool story bro.

You're sick.

OT: Sigh, another. These stories always get to me. I really don't understand why people can't just mind their own business; if you don't like something, ignore it, no need to be rude about it. I just watched his it gets better video, and it was really touching. Sad to see someone like him go. R.I.P. Jamey

 

[Quatakai]

Highschool kids are assholes, dont come out till you graduate.

 

[The Riddler_]

I hate gays, but I hate to see people kill themselves even more. This is the reason I keep it to myself.

It's all that we ask.

 

[Keef]

I don't know what schools these kids go to, as to where they're constantly bullied by a GROUP of kids. If you call someone a faggot in my school, it's either a friend, or a straight person you don't like. We never use the word to describe gays. I don't see why someone would be so disrespectful to a person they don't know, or haven't taken the time to know. I only hate one person in my school, because he's a dumbass and thinks he's tough shit, but he's really just a white trash scum bag. If people really hate kids that much to pick on them so much for them to commit suicide, something is wrong. Then again, teens are teens. They talk shit and fight. Something just must be wrong mentally with you if you commit suicide over something as simple as being called a "faggot".

 

[magicfool]

I don't know what schools these kids go to, as to where they're constantly bullied by a GROUP of kids. If you call someone a faggot in my school, it's either a friend, or a straight person you don't like. We never use the word to describe gays. I don't see why someone would be so disrespectful to a person they don't know, or haven't taken the time to know. I only hate one person in my school, because he's a dumbass and thinks he's tough shit, but he's really just a white trash scum bag. If people really hate kids that much to pick on them so much for them to commit suicide, something is wrong. Then again, teens are teens. They talk shit and fight. Something just must be wrong mentally with you if you commit suicide over something as simple as being called a "faggot".

I don't want to sound rude - but you can't compare this kids experience with your own. You can't put yourself in his shoes, to be constantly and consistently ridiculed day in, day out, for who you are.

Suicide is often viewed as a mental problem, when it's a social problem, an injustice mislabeled and swept under the rug.

 

[Keef]

I don't want to sound rude - but you can't compare this kids experience with your own. You can't put yourself in his shoes, to be constantly and consistently ridiculed day in, day out, for who you are.

Suicide is often viewed as a mental problem, when it's a social problem, an injustice mislabeled and swept under the rug.

THINKING of suicide is a social problem. Actually doing it is a mental problem. Also, I guess if he didn't let people get to him, he would be fine. Experiences are experiences. No matter where you live in the U.S.A, ESPECIALLY IN BUFFALO, AND with being WHITE, Gay or not, you shouldn't have any problems in live to large to kill yourself over.

 

[It'sJimmy]

This is horrible, it's really sad for me to see people still bully gays and such.
There's nothing wrong about being gay. These people are heartless.

 

[kill dank]

If someone kills themself, they have made a conscious decision to do so. No matter what the reasoning or logic behind the action is, they were the ones in control of their actions.

Such individuals deserve no sympathy. He knew damn well what he was doing. As said above by Terran, people taunt other people. It is a part of growing up. I am definitely not saying bullying is okay, but people need to learn to deal with it as it is something everyone experiences. You can't expect people to feel bad for you because of your decisions, just as someone wouldn't feel bad for me if I beat up my boss. Yes, I lost my job and it sucks, but I made the choice and I will deal with the consequences accordingly. Nobody's going to make a facebook page for me about it.

What happened to "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?"

 

[Adrian Ochoa]

I'm Latino and I'm not ethic Latino, black nor white. Latino =\= Mexican dumb ass. Also Mexicans citizenship lies in Mexico hance Mexican. Wow I can't believe the amount of dumbasses around here. Are public schools that bad?

Simple way to make you stfu "Mexican" is nationality.

 

[JIGL0JAY]

What happened to "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?"

Well that still holds true. When someone makes fun of me on a forums, or in the game, or something, I shrug it off. They're petty words. But this is totally different. I was practically isolated from my colleagues and classmates due to my brother. It's a totally different situation than just one or two people making fun of you. It's torturous to be isolated and pushed around by a bunch of people. That's why harassment gets linked with restraining orders. Because verbal abuse can be just as bad to some people.

If I kicked someone in the shin, the intensity of the pain they felt would be the amount of conditioning to that type of incident there could be. Someone getting harassed has a variety of effects on the mind due to the conditioning someone could have experienced. It all depends on how strong mentally they are.

I also bring up the example of the guy who had his sex life posted all over the internet for the school to see. It embarrassed him for so many people to see that, and make fun of him for it.

 

[Zerkerfist]

This is very sad. It makes me sick how cruel some kids can be towards each other. Committing suicide because your depressed is one thing, but deciding to kill yourself because you are teased, taunted, tortured and bullied every single day by your peers is something completely different. Can you imagine being in that kids shoes, and being so brutally and maliciously put-down that ending your own life is the only possible escape you can even contemplate? I think the kids that are responsible should be SEVERELY punished and held responsible for his death.

I remember in highschool I used to see kids getting picked on sometimes or getting bullied, and even though I despised it, I was always too afraid to be that person to stand up and stop it. I just watched on like the rest of the crowd, or pretended to just ignore what was happening. But one day I realized that not doing anything to stop people that are getting bullied is just as bad as being the one doing the bullying yourself. For all the posters above who are completely insensitive to this issue and feel that you can just ignore it, or it is "just part of growing up", I think you grossly misunderstand how traumatizing and soul destroying that being a victim of bullying can be. There are so many kids in the world who wake up terrified every day thinking about having to go to school, and whose lives are filled with terror and torture from being the victims of bullying. And more often than not, they endure this burden alone, without any sympathy or friends/people to turn to for help. Too often the severity of the situation is underestimated too, and adults just shrug it off as just a "little harmless teasing". Its not hard to imagine why so many of them lose hope

 

[Parox]

There's alot of people who are in under more stress and don't kill themselves. Also, there's always solutions to different problems. If you can't take the cyber-bullying of the assholes on youtube, simply don't post videos. If people are bullying you, join different clubs in your school and make some friends, I'm sure there are sympathetic people out there.

 

[xx Sean]

Such individuals deserve no sympathy. He knew damn well what he was doing. As said above by Terran, people taunt other people. It is a part of growing up. I am definitely not saying bullying is okay, but people need to learn to deal with it as it is something everyone experiences. You can't expect people to feel bad for you because of your decisions, just as someone wouldn't feel bad for me if I beat up my boss. Yes, I lost my job and it sucks, but I made the choice and I will deal with the consequences accordingly. Nobody's going to make a facebook page for me about it.

What happened to "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?"

There's a difference between doing harm to someone and getting shit, and just being who you are and getting shit. That's a horrible comparison.
Secondly, you clearly have never been in a position, where people constantly taunt you and insult you for who you are. You don't know what it's like, you don't know how it feels. The poor kid felt trapped, and thought of it as the only way out, which is the real tragedy here. And btw, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me" is a lie. Words do hurt. Words are powerful. I'm positive if you were treated the way that poor boy was, it would definitely affect you.

 

[Zerkerfist]

Well said Sean. It really pisses me off when people have that "Words are just words/words don't hurt" attitude, because that is such bullshit. Words are extremely powerful and can be very hurtful. And what makes it 10x worse is when you get the mob mentality happening, and you have groups of people throwing insults, taunts and threats at you, or simply joining in and laughing and doing nothing to stop it. At that point, you cannot simply just ignore the comments or brush them off as it really starts to affect you when a whole social group is ostracizing and maliciously attacking you like that. It is way too easy for people to shrug it off and have no sympathy for kids like that, but they have obviously never been in that situation themselves. No, neither have I, but I still have the decency to really try and put myself in the victim's shoes and imagine what a nightmare it must be to live in fear and self-loathing day in and day out because you are surrounded by people who hate you.

 

[Jimmy]

Kids will always bully other kids. Has anyone read Lord of the Flies? Learn to stand up for yourself or one will always be bullied. It obviously didn't get better.

Some people aren't good at standing up for themselves, so I assume it's tough for them when nobody else does. Given all the gay teen suicides that one hears about, I'd be interested to know if they're merely being over-reported (i.e., gay people don't have significantly higher suicide rates than non-gays) or if there's a biological link between homosexuality and suicide (a suggestion which would, at the surface, seem feasible as it doesn't appear to be a trait that would be selected against, since few homosexuals are active contributors to the gene pool).

This is racist. I'm mexican. And i feel offended because you are stereotyping us by saying "a mexican" face it. I'm mexican and im probably more knowleged than you.

What would you prefer? A human came up to me? I'm human and am therefore deeply offended at that. A mammal? My dog is a mammal; he's deeply offended. Grow up.

Hi white kid. Your ignorance scares the hell out of me. Our generation is unintelligent and America will pay the cost. The "Mexican " kid you're talking about isn't Mexican, he's American. Mexican is citizenship not a race. Mexicans cannot go to public schools unless they're exchange students or other legal dou. Next time you speak, think.

Adrian Ochoa just called himself Mexican, though, and I assume he's a U.S. citizen. If your idea was correct, terms such as African-American, Mexican-American, and Chinese-American would be erroneous. Mexican can be a nationality, but it is also an ethnicity.

I'm Latino and I'm not ethic Latino, black nor white. Latino =\= Mexican dumb ass. Also Mexicans citizenship lies in Mexico hance Mexican. Wow I can't believe the amount of dumbasses around here. Are public schools that bad?

You're the one who doesn't understand the concept of ethnicity.

 

[kill dank]

Secondly, you clearly have never been in a position, where people constantly taunt you and insult you for who you are. You don't know what it's like, you don't know how it feels.

I have, and I do. You don't know me. The idea of him committing suicide is appealing to your emotions and making you take the side you're taking. Just what someone would want you to think. "OH! if I kill myself people will feel sorry for me."

But this is totally different. I was practically isolated from my colleagues and classmates due to my brother. It's a totally different situation than just one or two people making fun of you. It's torturous to be isolated and pushed around by a bunch of people. That's why harassment gets linked with restraining orders. Because verbal abuse can be just as bad to some people.

I'm not sure the situation with you're brother but I was always pulled aside in highschool by a group of Arabs that just went around harassing people for no reason. Every morning I'd have a group of like 5 of them surround me and whoever I was with, insult us, get physical with us, and laugh about it because they did it every day. I was a social outcast and had very few friends that didn't think I was a pussy, all throughout my schooling. I was pretty much a nerd and got treated like one constantly. I went through the whole I wanna kill myself and I'm depressed stage with the sleeping all day and cutting and crying because nobody understands. It was brutal.

I know what it's like, that's why I show such a harsh opinion on the situation. I feel like it people's emotions thT make them so opinionated.

 

[johnty15]

bullying will never stop kids just need to learn to not be so sensitive to bullys and reward them with actions... and imo suicide because you like men is the most ridiculous reason ive heard

 

[ClazzD]

I really don't get how immature today's kids are. I'm not that old but when I was younger with my friends we were all close and acted maturely. Nowadays, most bullies are douchebags, kids whose parents don't love them or just do it for fun because they think it's "cool".
Being gay doesn't change the fact that you're still a human. Being gay doesn't mean you're not as mighty as other non-gays. Gay people are still human and should be treated the same way. I have met many gay people and have made many gay friends. The thing is, they take much pride in being gay. They are not afraid to express their feelings and their sexuality. They know that they are just like any other person. Their pride is so great that any type of bullying or hazing towards them, they forget about it and just move on with their lives cause they're gay and proud of it. I have one gay friend who is one of my best friend's brother, he wears bright tight clothing, has fiery red hair, and isn't ashamed at all. He is happy. Once me and my friends went to the mall with him, and he was wearing some weird clothing, and some douchebags start laughing at him and one guy calls him a fag. My friend literally puts his face in the other guys face and says :"Yeah I'm gay, so what?" and just walks away.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is, this is a sad loss of life for Jamey, but standing up for yourself and having pride in what you believe in is what will keep you up.

 

[Terrankiller]

The extent to which homosexual children are bullied is shocking. They aren't just roughed up for their lunch money, they are pariahs of their community. How do you stand up? Should he have fought someone?

When gay children try and stand up for themselves, this is what happens

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...ions-in-Slaying-of-Gay-Student-128477318.html

The system is fucked up, the fact that our youth are indoctrinated into a cycle of hatred is frightening to say the least.

Yeah ... , I am sure all the kids being bullied are shot to death when they stand up for themselves :roll:.