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I will try to keep this as straight forward as possible by breaking down each aspect of this report below;


15 compromised accounts:

@Clearly Killing It you mentioned in the original post on this report that the accounts were prior serviced by @Fur3oon Services:

Amount scammed: 13+ osrs accounts that were prior serviced by them

This leads me back to my original stance on the accounts:

Regarding the accounts that were serviced - I have confirmed in the discord server for myself that you did in fact agree to the server's ToS as seen here. The relevant ToS regarding the claim of the accounts being hijacked can be seen here.

@Fur3oon Services will not be held liable for the accounts for the following reasons:

• The services were completed on the accounts and you failed to secure the accounts, despite agreeing to their ToS stating that you would.
• We cannot explicitly prove who attached the emails on the accounts in question, nor can we rule out the possibility of the accounts being serviced by a third party, nor the possibility that you purchased these as legacy accounts and the OO recovered them.

There were additional chatlogs between the two of you that were provided, in which @Fur3oon Services said something that could suggest that he did take ownership of one of the accounts in question:
"First, the account was taken as I replaced the account owner with the inferno and quiver"
However, this could be explained as "the account was taken" (the account was banned), and "as I replaced the account owner with the inferno and quiver" (he had to replace the customer's banned account that he ordered the inferno and quiver on by compensating him with the refund). This could also be taken at face value that @Fur3oon Services did in fact take ownership of the account, gave it to the customer, and this would explain why @Fur3oon Services is unable to produce a chatlog regarding the $273.10 USDT refund that he stated he issued to the customer. However, in the same chatlog @Fur3oon Services denies several times (before and after the above statement) having any involvement in the hijacking of the accounts, so I would not be able to explicitly say who attached an email on the account, and securing the account after the services were completed would have prevented this entire aspect of this report.


$580 in service fees:

This has been addressed in the points above. You confirmed several times that the accounts were prior serviced by @Fur3oon Services and given these statements, @Fur3oon Services will not be held liable for any supplies you provided or any service fees you paid.

Unbeknownst to me, they also planned on hacking all of the accounts they had serviced for me prior to this happening.

$600 Deposit:

Just to confirm - there was no set terms of service agreed to regarding @Clearly Killing It working for your server other than he was to provide a $600 deposit, correct?

correct .

There is sufficient evidence that 450m 07 was refunded to the customer.
However, @Fur3oon Services if you are unable to provide any chatlogs of the customer agreeing to be refunded $273.10, this will not be included in the amount deemed to have been refunded.

$600 - $90 (450m 07 x .20/m) = $510.

I am going to base this part of the ruling on the most recent precedent regarding withholding a worker's deposit and the fact that there were no terms of service regarding this deposit; deposits are not meant to be used as profit.

@Fur3oon Services please refund @Clearly Killing It $510 of the deposit that was not used to reimburse the customer. You have been issued a DNT until this debt is repaid to @Clearly Killing It, as this is a significant amount of debt owed. I would strongly advise screen recording the refund and keeping the proper documentation of it to prevent any further issues here.

@Clearly Killing It you have also been issued a DNT for scamming, as per your own admission of utilizing bots to complete services on customer accounts, despite the customers being told the services would be done by hand. Please confirm here if/when you have received the refund.

 

@Fur3oon Services I see that you have edited your previous post and confirmed that the second set of 10 accounts were in fact not completed, and you are holding a payment of $240 and 200m 07, is this correct?

All that you have from the latest accounts at the same time you were using the bot is $240 - 200 million, and I canceled the order until a decision is made regarding the accounts you worked on using the bot on client accounts

 

[Fur3oon Services]

I will try to keep this as straight forward as possible by breaking down each aspect of this report below;


15 compromised accounts:

@Clearly Killing It you mentioned in the original post on this report that the accounts were prior serviced by @Fur3oon Services:


This leads me back to my original stance on the accounts:

There were additional chatlogs between the two of you that were provided, in which @Fur3oon Services said something that could suggest that he did take ownership of one of the accounts in question:
"First, the account was taken as I replaced the account owner with the inferno and quiver"
However, this could be explained as "the account was taken" (the account was banned), and "as I replaced the account owner with the inferno and quiver" (he had to replace the customer's banned account that he ordered the inferno and quiver on by compensating him with the refund). This could also be taken at face value that @Fur3oon Services did in fact take ownership of the account, gave it to the customer, and this would explain why @Fur3oon Services is unable to produce a chatlog regarding the $273.10 USDT refund that he stated he issued to the customer. However, in the same chatlog @Fur3oon Services denies several times (before and after the above statement) having any involvement in the hijacking of the accounts, so I would not be able to explicitly say who attached an email on the account, and securing the account after the services were completed would have prevented this entire aspect of this report.


$580 in service fees:

This has been addressed in the points above. You confirmed several times that the accounts were prior serviced by @Fur3oon Services and given these statements, @Fur3oon Services will not be held liable for any supplies you provided or any service fees you paid.




$600 Deposit:




There is sufficient evidence that 450m 07 was refunded to the customer.
However, @Fur3oon Services if you are unable to provide any chatlogs of the customer agreeing to be refunded $273.10, this will not be included in the amount deemed to have been refunded.

$600 - $90 (450m 07 x .20/m) = $510.

I am going to base this part of the ruling on the most recent precedent regarding withholding a worker's deposit and the fact that there were no terms of service regarding this deposit; deposits are not meant to be used as profit.

@Fur3oon Services please refund @Clearly Killing It $510 of the deposit that was not used to reimburse the customer. You have been issued a DNT until this debt is repaid to @Clearly Killing It, as this is a significant amount of debt owed. I would strongly advise screen recording the refund and keeping the proper documentation of it to prevent any further issues here.

@Clearly Killing It you have also been issued a DNT for scamming, as per your own admission of utilizing bots to complete services on customer accounts, despite the customers being told the services would be done by hand. Please confirm here if/when you have received the refund.

$600 - $90 (450m 07 x .20/m) = $510

The exchange rate of 2125 million.

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Your words are commands, consider it done. @Zulu



The accounts that were suspended by me to the worker have been calculated in this order. One of the 10 emails exceeded two days of work, and most of them exceeded 60 magic and ranged. Payment was made to the workers for the remaining balance of the work they had completed on those accounts, which ranges to 1B of the work

 

The accounts that were suspended by me to the worker have been calculated in this order. One of the 10 emails exceeded two days of work, and most of them exceeded 60 magic and ranged. Payment was made to the workers for the remaining balance of the work they had completed on those accounts, which ranges to 1B of the work

So the 10th account that was being serviced was the only account not completed and delivered to @Clearly Killing It when it was discovered that he was using bots to service customer accounts?

 

[Clearly Killing It]

So the 10th account that was being serviced was the only account not completed and delivered to @Clearly Killing It when it was discovered that he was using bots to service customer accounts?

All accounts were compromised, none of the accounts were completed. Accounts were low 50-60 ranged with no other notable stats when I last checked before they had emails registered to them by Fur3oon. I have since deleted these accounts from my accounts list because they are of no use anymore.

 

[Fur3oon Services]

The accounts that were suspended by me to the worker have been calculated in this order. One of the 10 emails exceeded two days of work, and most of them exceeded 60 magic and ranged. Payment was made to the workers for the remaining balance of the work they had completed on those accounts, which ranges to 1B of the work done by each of them.

So the 10th account that was being serviced was the only account not completed and delivered to @Clearly Killing It when it was discovered that he was using bots to service customer accounts?

No, sir The first ten accounts were serviced, delivered to him. The second ticket included another 10 accounts. When it was discovered that he was using bots, the ticket was canceled. However, the accounts had already been leveled to 60 Ranged and 60 Magic, which is estimated to be worth 1 billion 07 gp in value worth of work. and he completely wiped the data.

 

[Clearly Killing It]

@Clearly Killing It you have also been issued a DNT for scamming, as per your own admission of utilizing bots to complete services on customer accounts, despite the customers being told the services would be done by hand. Please confirm here if/when you have received the refund.

Perfectly acceptable. Although there is still the $240 for the incomplete service to be addressed. I would like to be paid back via my original payment method. BTC or LTC. Thank you @Zulu for at least getting some of my money back.

 

[Clearly Killing It]

The accounts that were suspended by me to the worker have been calculated in this order. One of the 10 emails exceeded two days of work, and most of them exceeded 60 magic and ranged. Payment was made to the workers for the remaining balance of the work they had completed on those accounts, which ranges to 1B of the work done by each of them.


No, sir The first ten accounts were serviced, delivered to him. The second ticket included another 10 accounts. When it was discovered that he was using bots, the ticket was canceled. However, the accounts had already been leveled to 60 Ranged and 60 Magic, which is estimated to be worth 1 billion 07 gp in value worth of work. and he completely wiped the data.

This guy even lies about the stats on the accounts, bro what is wrong with you. Just tell the truth for once

 

[Fur3oon Services]

This guy even lies about the stats on the accounts, bro what is wrong with you. Just tell the truth for once

I do not lie, and I do not use bots for customer service. You know that you are the one lying here. Stop beating around the bush; it’s over. We are waiting for @Zulu to decide on this matter. And stop playing the victim any further; I am the one whose reputation has been harmed here

 

[Clearly Killing It]

I do not lie, and I do not use bots for customer service. You know that you are the one lying here. Stop beating around the bush; it’s over. We are waiting for @Zulu to decide on this matter. And stop playing the victim any further; I am the one whose reputation has been harmed here

my wallet/deposit was over 4 billion. u defraud at every occasion you can, ur honestly a disgusting human being and u know u deserve every minute of this. I'll be waiting for you to unblock me on discord and for my payment.

 

[Fur3oon Services]

my wallet/deposit was over 4 billion. u defraud at every occasion you can, ur honestly a disgusting human being and u know u deserve every minute of this. I'll be waiting for you to unblock me on discord and for my payment.

I appreciate your politeness, but I will not unblock you. The payment will be made here on Sythe

 

No, sir The first ten accounts were serviced, delivered to him. The second ticket included another 10 accounts. When it was discovered that he was using bots, the ticket was canceled. However, the accounts had already been leveled to 60 Ranged and 60 Magic, which is estimated to be worth 1 billion 07 gp in value worth of work. and he completely wiped the data.

@Fur3oon Services can you please provide proof for this?

This could be screenshots of the accounts levels from the workers, payment receipts made to the workers, and ticket transcripts of the conversations regarding the workers being paid.

 

I was given access to the ticket "other-0028" which contained the transcript for the order of 10 level 3 accounts that were to be trained from 1-75 range and 1-70 magic.

@Clearly Killing It @Fur3oon Services - Please review the timeline and key points I have outlined below and let me know if everything is correct.


@Fur3oon Services quoted a price of $240 (150m per account, valued at .16/m)
@Clearly Killing It agreed and sent $240 BTC.

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@Fur3oon Services deducted the payment for this service from @Clearly Killing It's wallet balance as he had not received the BTC payment at this point in time. Once the $240 BTC payment was received it should have brought @Clearly Killing It's wallet balance back to 3362m 07.

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Six accounts were supplied with 20m 07 for bonds and supplies.

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Three accounts were trained to 40 magic. The workers were informed at this point that the order was canceled due to @Fur3oon Services suspecting @Clearly Killing It to have been using bots to complete services on customer accounts on other tickets.

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The remainder of the ticket is @Clearly Killing It and @Fur3oon Services, along with a couple of other workers going back and forth about @Clearly Killing It using bots to service customers' accounts.


Key points:

• @Clearly Killing It's wallet balance should be 3362m 07 (x.16/m = $537.92)
• After deducting what has been proven to have been refunded to the customer, @Clearly Killing It's deposit should be $510 ($600 - $90)
• 3/10 accounts were trained from 1-40 magic before the order was canceled

 

[Clearly Killing It]

@Fur3oon Services can you please provide proof for this?

This could be screenshots of the accounts levels from the workers, payment receipts made to the workers, and ticket transcripts of the conversations regarding the workers being paid.

I was given access to the ticket "other-0028" which contained the transcript for the order of 10 level 3 accounts that were to be trained from 1-75 range and 1-70 magic.

@Clearly Killing It @Fur3oon Services - Please review the timeline and key points I have outlined below and let me know if everything is correct.


@Fur3oon Services quoted a price of $240 (150m per account, valued at .16/m)
@Clearly Killing It agreed and sent $240 BTC.

Spoiler

@Fur3oon Services deducted the payment for this service from @Clearly Killing It's wallet balance as he had not received the BTC payment at this point in time. Once the $240 BTC payment was received it should have brought @Clearly Killing It's wallet balance back to 3362m 07.

Spoiler

Six accounts were supplied with 20m 07 for bonds and supplies.

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Three accounts were trained to 40 magic. The workers were informed at this point that the order was canceled due to @Fur3oon Services suspecting @Clearly Killing It to have been using bots to complete services on customer accounts on other tickets.

Spoiler

The remainder of the ticket is @Clearly Killing It and @Fur3oon Services, along with a couple of other workers going back and forth about @Clearly Killing It using bots to service customers' accounts.


Key points:

• @Clearly Killing It's wallet balance should be 3362m 07 (x.16/m = $537.92)
• After deducting what has been proven to have been refunded to the customer, @Clearly Killing It's deposit should be $510 ($600 - $90)
• 3/10 accounts were trained from 1-40 magic before the order was canceled

Give me a little bit of time to respond to this, at work still.

 

@Clearly Killing It

1. How many infernal cape/quiver/firecape services did you complete while working for @Fur3oon Services?
2. How much were you paid for each service you completed?
3. Why did you not mention anything about a wallet balance in your original report?
   

 

[Clearly Killing It]

@Clearly Killing It

1. How many infernal cape/quiver/firecape services did you complete while working for @Fur3oon Services?
2. How much were you paid for each service you completed?
3. Why did you not mention anything about a wallet balance in your original report?

1. 2 infernals?
2. I was not paid as far as I was aware, maybe 150m added to my wallet.
3. There was a lot of information to unpack for me, and the deposit of $600 was converted into wallet balance via .14 gp rate. A little over 4 billion should be the total wallet, he deducted some for some services while my BTC wallet was on limit (1 billion or so). He should have added the gp back to the wallet as I paid him, but it looks like he didn’t.

I am still stuck at work and cannot verify much at this time, but I will do my best.

 

[Clearly Killing It]

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255m is what he said. I never verified honestly if he actually added it to the wallet though.

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he agreed to 5000 x .12, and I sent him $600 via BTC. So it was around 5billion when we started, and should have stayed around that because I haven’t used any of it.

 

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255m is what he said. I never verified honestly if he actually added it to the wallet though.

This was him adding 255m for both of the infernal capes you completed for the server?

 

the deposit of $600 was converted into wallet balance via .14 gp rate. A little over 4 billion should be the total wallet

So the wallet balance was essentially just your deposit then, correct?

$600 at the rate of .14/m = 4.285b

 

[Clearly Killing It]

So the wallet balance was essentially just your deposit then, correct?

$600 at the rate of .14/m = 4.285b

It was $600 at the rate of .12/m = 5B, as he asked for 5B deposit and those were rates at the time. As for the 255m, let me check on this, I believe it was for both capes. Let me double check to be sure/verify if I can.

One pure: 255m - Never checked if it was placed into wallet TBH
One Main: 150m? I can't be sure about this one, going completely off memory- It was all via ticket. And payment was never verified because this is the same night as I was "caught" by fur3oon.