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You’re going to have to forgive me if you thought I was rude in my last post, but I have a hard time not saying what I think the way I want to say it, and more than that, I really do have a extremely difficult time respecting anyone who goes by the alias KarlMarxx. That is not just a jab, it’s not a joke. It’s the way I think. If you’re not a communist, then that’s great. If you aren’t, you should know communism isn’t something that should be considered “cool†because of the retro aspect of it. And it’s certainly not a joke considering the direction of the country I am living in. But were not going to get into politics. I’m just letting you know my what I think.
Here’s my number one: If a ten year old doesn’t belong on Runescape where do they belong? Think back to when you were ten years old. Honestly I doubt you had much else on your plate besides school, homework, sleeping, eating and chores. Most ten year olds have quite simple lives, and Runescape could very possibly give them something to look forward to and to word towards.
My second point: How can you say that it is inappropriate for a ten year old to play Runescape while you yourself were playing by age 12? I’m sorry, you were scamming by age 12. Which means you were obviously more experienced than some of the other players in the game. So did you start at age eleven? Or ten? Or were you just a prodigal child. What makes it okay for a twelve year old to play Runescape while a ten year old is too young? You’ll have to explain that to me.
My third point: A child who is ten years old has no idea that there are scammers in Runescpape, let alone the real world. MOST ten year olds are very sheltered and do not have much real world experience that would lead them to believe that “There is no free lunch.†Not taking real world experience into account, I’m sure you might say in your next point that they should have had enough common sense to understand what was going on behind the scenes of their trade window. The human brain does not fully develop until age 25, so saying a ten year old “should have known better†is just about one of the most ridiculous things anyone could say. Children are easy to deceive. They are still learning, have a small amount of experience and they are very trusting. Taking advantage of those three traits and stealing from them and then blaming them for their lack of common sense is an absolutely absurd thing to say and I’m sure even the REAL Karl Marx would agree with me about that.
Point Number 4: Your example of a scam does not accurately convey how scams work. I doubt anyone using that scam was ever successful and if they were, then yes, the victim was very stupid, or very trusting. But scams are not as obvious as you have made them seem to be. Do you think the great Jojo3000 asked for peoples’ passwords when he was looking to scam them? No he did not, because it wouldn’t have worked. Scamming is not a simple process. A good scam involves ingenuity, the ability to understand people’s thoughts and motives without ever having the chance to see their face or hear their voice, and the ability to know when to cut your losses and move on. I highly doubt by age twelve, there are many, if any, kids who have developed these traits. On top of that, most people would have a hard time scamming anyone without them.
Point number 5: What is a scam if it is not a bad trade? 10 mil for 10k b-bones that you thought were d-bones isn’t a scam? Were going to call that a bad trade nowadays? No, it is a scam. You did not receive what you paid for and the trade was only possible through the implementation of deceit. Of course, you could tell me that I can’t call what happened to you a scam because you knew it was going to be a bad trade, but then I would call you dumb. You either got scammed, or you weren’t smart enough to make yourself aware of the situation, and that is how scammers operate, through deceit and less intelligent or less aware players.
Point number 6: There absolutely are morals on the internet. Just because you yourself might not possess any does not mean they do not exist. People should not steal in real life, and should not steal over the internet. Your logic implies that since other people do bad things, bad things are not bad anymore. Just because I read and hear about other people getting shot, or shooting, and I myself have a gun and a bullet does not mean I should go shoot someone with it. Just because you have access to porn does not mean you HAVE to view it. Games allow a break from reality. I don’t log on to Runescape to apply what I learned from my job. I don’t play Call of Duty to let people know how to install a light fixture. I play Runescape and I play xbox to relax and take my mind off of those things. If you play Runescape to hone your “real life skills†then you’d be better off logging out of RS and training your construction level to 99 with a real hammer and some real nails. The same goes for cooking. Or fishing. Or woodcutting.
And number 7: The fact that you tell me RSGP shouldn’t legally have a legitimate currency exchange absolutely disgusts me. Honestly that’s the kind of comment that would lead me to believe you are indeed a “real-life commy.†I live in America, and in America, the good Americans believe that we should be free to do what we want with what we have when we want to do it. We do not need Uncle Sam breathing over our shoulders regulating what we can do and how we can go about doing it. I’m sure that’s not how Karl Marx would have it, but that’s how George Washington wanted it. And George Washington player-owns Karl Marx.
Number 8:Without a doubt Andrew and Paul Gower, and the third co-founder of Jagex, and consequently Runescape, DID NOT INTEND FOR PEOPLE TO LURE AND SCAM AND PHISH AND CHEAT AND STEAL. But you, Karl Marx, are saying that it’s ok to do those things. Those same three people, also did not intend for Runescape money, to have a real life value attached to it, but you, Karl Marx, say that it should not have a real life value attached to it. How can you sit behind your computer monitor and tell me that it’s wrong to buy Runescape money with U.S. Dollars right after you justified stealing from and lying to ten year olds through the same game? Abusing flaws in the system and buying RS money with real U.S. Dollars is wrong, but abusing the same flaws in the system scam other players out of their hard work is ok? Come on, that’s ridiculous.
How can you tell me that playing Runescape is any different than using the computer for any other purpose? Is getting a college degree via online classes just as pointless as playing Runescape? By your logic, it should be. It’s all just pixels right??? What about the computerized Wall Street Stock Exchange? Do you mean to tell me that Wall Street has no significance purely because it’s built off of PIXELS? A maxed out zerker is an investment of hundreds of hours of playing time and an absurd amount of dedication. An online college degree is an investment of hundreds of hours and an absurdly high resistance to boredom. Just because the RS account pays off in the long run differently than the college degree does, does not mean it’s not an investment. And it also does not mean it does not have any real life value.
If you are accusing me of worrying about the loss of work for these ten year olds because I stand up to those people who steal from them, I could just as easily accuse you of the fear of work for yourself. What is communism other than an easy way to stay alive without having to work too hard and without ever having to worry about whether or not you’ll make this month’s quota. Legit players fear the loss of their work just as much as scammers and phishers fear the work itself.
What I just tried to was that whether or not Runescape does or should have a real life value attached to it, it does. Even if it didn’t have an assigned value in currency, it surely does in time. And we all know the equation “Time = Money.†This is especially true for me, because recently I have figured out that it is much more efficient to make money in real life and put that money towards Runescape money that it is to make the money on Runescape. I have a job in construction, I’m just starting out so I make ten dollars an hour. 10 dollars real money equals roughly 10 mil Runescape money. Which means it took me 1 hour to make 10 mil. If I were to make that same amount of money on Runescape it would take a lot longer. I’d guess 40 hours. I say 40 because most money making methods find a nice nitch in the GE price right around 250k per hour. Any more than that and buyers buy for less and any less and the sellers sell for more. So that means at 250k per hour, it would take me 5 days of playing 8 hours a day. Or I could go to work for 8 hours, spend ten bucks on Runescape, and pocket 70. No taxes for me btwJust don’t tell Karl.
Honestly buddy I don’t believe there is a difference.
Like I said in my response, I have a hard time expressing myself in a neutral tone, as you have so obviously taken offense to. You will have to forgive me for that.
There is still a huge gap in your logic. What better place to apply what you learned in real life, than real life. Like I said earlier in this post, and in my last post, real life experience applies to real life. Not Runescape. You have a choice between playing Runescape or using that time to accomplish things in reality. If you want to play Runescape, then play Runescape. If you want to experience reality, then shut your computer off, and go outside and experience “reality.†It’s as simple as that.
I’m not sure you have any clue about what Histrionic Personality Disorder is. First of all, I did look it up. I’m not a psychiatrist and I don’t parade around on Sythe pretending to be one or acting like one. Secondly, even if you did possess a proper education, something in my gut tells me you would have a hard time diagnosing anything more than an error code over the internet. Thirdly, I’d like you to name 3 things I’ve said that prove I have HPD and I’d like you to also clarify how you know I said those three things exactly the way I said them. I read one of the symptoms of HPD is “Theatricality, exaggerated emotions†so I’d like you to show me, and everyone else reading this, exactly how you could tell I was speaking with “theatricality and exaggerated emotions.†I wasn’t aware you could see a person’s face or hear a person’s voice through an online forum, but if you have a secret I am unaware of, please, share it.
How ironic of you to tell me my response was presumptuous and condescending right before you took the liberty of diagnosing me with personality disorder. First of all, you basically screamed “I’m a hypocrite†at the top of your lungs when you said that and second of all, I nearly flat out told you I can be a little too bold and straight-forward sometimes, and those are two synonyms of presumptuous. So do I thank you for telling me I’m bold? Thanks?
That may be how you would have protected your ego, if you were in my place, but nothing you or Captain Communism, (pardon the pun) said has had any effect on my ego whatsoever. I’m still just as “presumptuous†now as I was before I read your little comment.
Ironic how you stick up for Mother Russia (again, couldn’t help myself) when I talk to him in a more aggressive tone than the United Nations normally does, but you have no problem turning the other direction when a ten-year-old boy gets scammed out of his Runescape account.
THis is probly one of the biggest serious wall ive seen.
Luring is fun
Scamming is bad
Cheating is glitching wich is fun if it doesnt affect anyone
