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[Yaks]

Scammer's profile link: https://www.sythe.org/members/spartan-osrs-gold.1377303/
Amount scammed: $32
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: johnaso 1150973225677885550
Proof that it's their Discord: Screen capture - c48b84f7833acc05b3b99ac6736e8b28 - Gyazo
Explanation of the trade: I was buying an account from them, I was unaware that the account was a jagex launcher account. Once I was aware I asked for RF. Their TOS States that I can get 90% refund within 24 hours.
How they scammed: Implemented a new TOS system and edited one when he realized I was eligible for a refund.
Other relevant trade screenshots:
https://prnt.sc/0b_6MwQFUqzH
https://prnt.sc/g52a7f51OaYj - As you can see this has been edited but I dont remember seeing rule #2. Obviously theres no way to prove this but doesn't make sense why it took him 10 minutes to bring it up.
https://prnt.sc/SctvbonVbHLo - If he knew I was in the wrong why would he try and bargain a refund?
https://prnt.sc/mc-lKjc8zUZy - When you make a ticket in his server you are prompted with this TOS not the one that was sent to me 10 minutes after the sale and that has been clearly edited.

Of course I'm being a tiny bit petty over a refund of $32 but I'm doing this because I know this guy is very obviously going to be a future scam quitter. The way he conducts business is very scammy and unprofessional even if he refunds me he should be banned.

 

@Spartan Osrs Gold did you disclose that the account was a launcher account prior to the payment being accepted?

 

[Spartan Osrs Gold]

Very sneaky move this user has done here.

First of all the customer had made a purchase of us for a account valued for sale $180 which he has sent the payment.
We then delivered the account and was waiting for his code since it is a Jagex account (Buyer never asked if its legacy or jagex account).
He asked for a refund and we said that we don't offer refunds on accounts in anyway after payment is made. (I allowed this buyer a 1 time off to refund him at least $130 out of $180) which he accepted and i have full proof of him in ticket accepting this for our own safety for these kind of sneaky reports after we offered him $130 refund.

https://prnt.sc/M7ibNA7bOy-q (as you can see here he accepted the refund per our protection for these). which i don't see any other proof or any other explanation needed here.

Concerning now the TOS he mentioned above about the 90% that is only for the Services we offer.
Account sales has a different TOS in our discord which he then saw and didn't realize it.

If mod needs any other proof or extra information of us feel free to ask but the way i see everything is that i have full refunded him the offer we made him and he accepted it.

Payment was sent and he confirmed he received. ( https://prnt.sc/8m4Bc5edSnUJ )

 

[Spartan Osrs Gold]

@Yoshiki I have not disclosed if it was either legacy or jagex account. The customer just "assumed" its legacy.

https://prnt.sc/lsGvtQ5uF26s

 

[Yaks]

@Spartan Osrs Gold did you disclose that the account was a launcher account prior to the payment being accepted?

https://prnt.sc/mwDYuM6LDXHj It was not.

 

[Spartan Osrs Gold]

Customer did not ask for any information about the account, he just went all in to instantly buy it. We offer accounts through discord and its up to the customer before payments to ask ANYTHING they want concerning what they are buying. We did not advertise anything false there OR state legacy or jagex account as its the customers job to ask all the necessary information to know about what they are buying.. He said he "assumed" it was legacy.. If you assume everything in life you ain't going to go too far.

 

[Yaks]

Very sneaky move this user has done here.

First of all the customer had made a purchase of us for a account valued for sale $180 which he has sent the payment.
We then delivered the account and was waiting for his code since it is a Jagex account (Buyer never asked if its legacy or jagex account).
He asked for a refund and we said that we don't offer refunds on accounts in anyway after payment is made. (I allowed this buyer a 1 time off to refund him at least $130 out of $180) which he accepted and i have full proof of him in ticket accepting this for our own safety for these kind of sneaky reports after we offered him $130 refund.

https://prnt.sc/M7ibNA7bOy-q (as you can see here he accepted the refund per our protection for these). which i don't see any other proof or any other explanation needed here.

Concerning now the TOS he mentioned above about the 90% that is only for the Services we offer.
Account sales has a different TOS in our discord which he then saw and didn't realize it.

If mod needs any other proof or extra information of us feel free to ask but the way i see everything is that i have full refunded him the offer we made him and he accepted it.

Payment was sent and he confirmed he received. ( https://prnt.sc/8m4Bc5edSnUJ )

Just want to add that I only accepted the refund because I was getting scammy vibes from him and I just wanted to recoup at least some of my money back. Obviously I do not agree with what he did and only accepted it to see my money again.

 

[Spartan Osrs Gold]

We were even kind enough to sell the account him for only $180 from the tagged posted price at $235. Big disrespect and very sneaky move he has done after confirming to receive the X amount we made a deal and he accepts that TOS of us.

 

[Yaks]

We were even kind enough to sell the account him for only $180 from the tagged posted price at $235. Big disrespect and very sneaky move he has done after confirming to receive the X amount we made a deal and he accepts that TOS of us.

Yeah very kind of you to say you're keeping half the money. So kind...

 

@Yoshiki I have not disclosed if it was either legacy or jagex account. The customer just "assumed" its legacy.

https://prnt.sc/lsGvtQ5uF26s

It is incredibly deceptive not to disclose something this important for an account sale, I highly suggest that you tell people in the future if it is a jagex launcher account in the future.
You will need to refund him the remaining amount of money that he sent you.

 

[Spartan Osrs Gold]

Just want to add that I only accepted the refund because I was getting scammy vibes from him and I just wanted to recoup at least some of my money back. Obviously I do not agree with what he did and only accepted it to see my money again.

The customer right here just said in brief words that he accepted the money back in return to scam the TOS which was confirm and accepted and then make a report. I have nothing else to say about all this and waste my time on this person. We have so much vouches in discord and on sythe and you are here talking about scam vibes. Have a good day, if mods need me anything feel free.

 

[Spartan Osrs Gold]

@Yoshiki Why is the TOS he accepted with proof not being mentioned?
Please take that into consideration because that is a scam move from his side aswell.

 

@Yoshiki Why is the TOS he accepted with proof not being mentioned?
Please take that into consideration because that is a scam move from his side aswell.

You can't keep his money when you failed to mention some key aspects of the account.

 

[Yaks]

The customer right here just said in brief words that he accepted the money back in return to scam the TOS which was confirm and accepted and then make a report. I have nothing else to say about all this and waste my time on this person. We have so much vouches in discord and on sythe and you are here talking about scam vibes. Have a good day, if mods need me anything feel free.

Nope. I'm saying I only accepted it because it felt like you were going to scam me and I didnt want to receive nothing at all.

 

[Yaks]

You can't keep his money when you failed to mention some key aspects of the account.

Honestly I was happy with a 90% refund but if thats the case he can send the remaining of my $50 here.
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[Spartan Osrs Gold]

I will let this slip and refund just to keep the kid happy but i don't see how this works in this manner. There is no rule what is suppose to be mentioned through our discord other than the main features of an account which is account stats + bank + quests etc.. Any further information should be asked by the customer as we have stated the following

Open a ticket here to buy / request info : #place an order

 

[Spartan Osrs Gold]

He has opened a report here asking for a $32 scam, therefor he will be paid $32 to the usdt address provided above. Confirm? @Yoshiki

 

[Yaks]

I will let this slip and refund just to keep the kid happy but i don't see how this works in this manner. There is no rule what is suppose to be mentioned through our discord other than the main features of an account which is account stats + bank + quests etc.. Any further information should be asked by the customer as we have stated the following

Open a ticket here to buy / request info : #place an order

Thanks, just a tip for the future; never think that you're entitled to keeping someone else's money.

Can see a scam quit coming in the near future

 

[Yaks]

He has opened a report here asking for a $32 scam, therefor he will be paid $32 to the usdt address provided above. Confirm? @Yoshiki

I think he means the full $50 because you never disclosed all the account information.

 

[Spartan Osrs Gold]

No remaining refund will be provided until @Yoshiki confirms since the report is about the $32 remaining since out TOS is 90% refund as you figured out yourself.