RsProd ban dispute.

[Plznate]

Posting on his behalf.

I'll disect this whole ban reasoning for you:
Key:

Red = My Response
Normal Colour = Tyro

Pasting something here so I can use it in a ban reason:

Assuming we're not counting the PrinceSpud incident...

superstar101 - account RsProd created just to post offers on his own accounts
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?...85#post6262285
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?...28#post6266628
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?...02#post6364902
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?...26#post6397326

All of the above evidence has been pardoned, found here : http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=922357

karma234 - an account made immediately after (this account ID is 246144 and superstar101 is 246143)

Karma234 is not a valid account, or I cannot seem to find it. So i'm not sure how i can dispute this.

http://gnu.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=6680258 - vouching an account he created, which was banned by Skele after one post for
Code:

Ban Evasion: http://www.sythe.org/member.php?u=256934 - requested by Spyike

The account above was banned by Skele for
Code:

Fake Vouches: http://sythe.org/member.php?u=256934 - requested by Spyike

After a very significant error by me, I know how this relates. (If needed by a mod, they can check MSN chatlogs for legitimacy.

The above account "jojoizback" WAS created by me, but never used by me. I believe I'm being held responsile for this, because it was created on my IP address. On the 26th of June 2010, someone from the email address "[email protected]" contacted me, wanting to buy my money making guide.
Later on in our discussion, he told me that he would vouch for the guide, but he didn't have a sythe account, nor could he make one. He asked me to make one for him, because he couldn't. So, being the noob I was back then, I made the requested Sythe account for him (At this stage I didn't know that he was a serial ban evader). The sythe account "jojoizback" was never used from my IP, only from his. At the time of doing this, I really didn't think twice about it, (Firstly, because I thought I was helping someone who needed help, and Secondly, I was new to blackmarket forums, and wasn't 100% sure on the rules). I really do appologize for this, as I now realise it was wrong, and as previously stated, I didn't see the harm in it. But I do now.

The reason why I didn't include this in my pardon, was because I had completely forgotten about this up until now, not once did it cross my mind, because if it had, I would've mentioned it.

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Proof of me being an asset to the Sythe.org community: (As taken, and editted from my pardon).

* I have gained 230+ Legitimate Vouches.
* I have had one user suggestion approved : http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=922964
* I am a Grand Master
* I have a FireCape Thread with over 17,500 views + 100 Capes done.
* I have traded close to $4000 USD on sythe.
* I am very active, and professional in everything that I do.
* I have gotten 6 people banned for rule breaking (Evading + scamming)
* I have reported many posts, whether is be for spam, or vulgar text.
* I am a $50 donator
* I Joined in March 2010, and have had no successful scamming reports on me.
* I've put a user suggestion foward, although it died while I was away on a hockey tournament it had over 2000
views - http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=871781
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I would really be upset if I were to remain banned. In no way shape or form did I have ill-intentions when making the account "jojoizback" as previously said, I thought I was helping someone out, but in return, look what happens

I'm really sorry for any past actions, and hopefully, I can resume my good sythe record.

For the record, RsProd is one of very few Sythe users I have ever gone first to. He is a reliable, honest, trustworthy market trader, and an extremely valuable, contributing member of the community.

 

[Magic Arrow]

Account sharing is still a permanent ban offence. I'm also highly skeptical that only after being caught was he not only able to remember, but able to state the email of the person he gave it to.

If it were up to me, I'd deny it. But it's not.

 

[Plznate]

Brendan W had the exact same situation. He sold a pin to somebody and that person couldn't make an account, so Brendan made him an account and that person vouched for him.

An extremely valid point by cosrob.

Account sharing is still a permanent ban offence. I'm also highly skeptical that only after being caught was he not only able to remember, but able to state the email of the person he gave it to.

If it were up to me, I'd deny it. But it's not.

True, but ban evading is a permanent offense (your case), as was self vouching (my case). Naturally there are rules in place to maintain order, however in circumstances where outstanding character reformation has occurred, (examples being both yours and mine), I think grace may be extended?

As I said, RsProd is an extremely trustworthy person. I even went so far as to make a special case to MM a trade of his for $600, in which I accepted his paypal money and sent it to the buyer. He IS an asset to the community, and I hope the staff can look through his contributions and deem him worthy of forgiveness.

 

[HamJam]

I would agree with Nate on this one, people make silly mistakes like RsProd has done by creating an account for someone else. I think genuinely he was trying to help someone and didn't mean any harm.

He has shown that he is indeed a great asset to this site accumulating a lot of trust and successfully running his own firecape store and if he was given the same treatment that Nate was given, I feel this would suffice.

That's my view on this situation, but ultimately it's not up to me.

 

[Plznate]

I would agree with Nate on this one, people make silly mistakes like RsProd has done by creating an account for someone else. I think genuinely he was trying to help someone and didn't mean any harm.

He has shown that he is indeed a great asset to this site accumulating a lot of trust and successfully running his own firecape store and if he was given the same treatment that Nate was given, I feel this would suffice.

That's my view on this situation, but ultimately it's not up to me.

Thanks for the support. Obviously people make mistakes, stupid ones, and often at the very start of their Sythe career before they fully understand both the rules, and the consequences that result from breaking those rules. While ignorance is by no means a plausible excuse, hopefully his actions and character demonstrated on the site will help : /

 

[djweasel]

I agree with hamjunk and Nate that making an account for somone else was just being generous. I like to do good for people and try to help in any way I can and this young person known as rsprod deserves to get the chance to come back to sythe. Obviously it wasn't ment to be like "I'm going to go scam away on this account" he did it to be nice and help a fellow member out. Not to mention the vouches and money handled he's very valuable to sythe.

I say unban.

 

[FireZ]

This is being handled in the upper lounge.

 

[Plznate]

Good to know. Ill relay to him to stay patient : )

 

[Skele]

Tyro has ruled to unban him in a month.