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Travis

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hello fellow sythe members,

I was going over the memberlist and there are so many accounts with 0 posts thats are years old. To me i see these are potential Scammers as some even date back to 2005.

here are 3 examples in the 'V' section page one

V A L D U X
joined march 22nd 2009 0 post count

v a m p o za
joined december 1st 2005 0 post count

v a r i n o
joined july 12th 2007 0 post count

Although not everyone on sythe does, some members trust people based on join date (and a post count can easily be spammed) I think that some of these should start to be closed/deleted (not banned just deleted or closed) Basicly if they came back to sythe they would have to make a new account (wouldnt be classed as ban evading though)

What i think should happen

This would only effect people with 0 post

I think there should be a limit of 1-2 months that you can have 0 posts after that their account will be closed.

Im not sure if mods/admin are able to filter the memberlist by posts but if they can this shouldnt be too hard of a task.

Even if this is only Benificial to 1 in 15 sythe members it'll still be worth it

please tell me what you's think of the idea and any feedback will be good :D (unless its not about the above)

Please note i have never been scammed this way but there are people who have.
 
Agreed.
Your account should be deleted for 6+ months of inactivity imo.
 
Singling out Tens of thousands of users with 0 post count would crash the server, Its not as simply as you make out :/ Just like what would happen if An Admin/Global was to go on the Mod Control Panel and search the whole forum for one identical IP, it'd be complete overhaul of the server scanning every single user for one value.
 
Why does this even matter? They're not even causing any trouble. "Don't try to fix something that ain't broken."

And to the kid that suggested that we delete accounts inactive for 6+ months, let me explain to you a little something. Deleting accounts means deleting all their posts, thus, making ban evaders much harder to catch.

/thread
 
.Karl said:
Singling out Tens of thousands of users with 0 post count would crash the server, Its not as simply as you make out :/ Just like what would happen if An Admin/Global was to go on the Mod Control Panel and search the whole forum for one identical IP, it'd be complete overhaul of the server scanning every single user for one value.
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Although even if the mods were to do this by searching though the memberlist letters, it could still be done quite swiftly they could just do a few letters per day it would clean up the site of future join date scammers.
 
Travis_T said:
Although even if the mods were to do this by searching though the memberlist letters, it could still be done quite swiftly they could just do a few letters per day it would clean up the site of future join date scammers.
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Its a manual job that tbh doesn't need doing :/

Each account is only a little bit of memory in the Database anyway.
 
Gurtaton said:
Why does this even matter? They're not even causing any trouble. "Don't try to fix something that ain't broken."

And to the kid that suggested that we delete accounts inactive for 6+ months, let me explain to you a little something. Deleting accounts means deleting all their posts, thus, making ban evaders much harder to catch.

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I was pointing that towards the accounts that aren't banned because those accounts are obviously not accessible.
 
.Karl said:
Its a manual job that tbh doesn't need doing :/

Each account is only a little bit of memory in the Database anyway.
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The space wouldnt be the main goal, scam prevention would and im sure that even if the mods didnt want to do the manual way then they could just ask the public if they see an account thats older than 2 months with 0 post count to post it on a thread made for that reason.


also i dont think accounts that are inactive for 6 months that have posted before should be closed. they have a right to remain open as the person could of simply quit rs for the time being.

people with 0 post counts are my only mission for this thread.
 
Travis_T said:
The space wouldnt be the main goal, scam prevention would and im sure that even if the mods didnt want to do the manual way then they could just ask the public if they see an account thats older than 2 months with 0 post count to post it on a thread made for that reason.


also i dont think accounts that are inactive for 6 months that have posted before should be closed. they have a right to remain open as the person could of simply quit rs for the time being.

people with 0 post counts are my only mission for this thread.
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This forum is not only for RuneScape.
There are many people on Sythe that don't play RS.
Failed argument.
 
Transfer said:
This forum is not only for RuneScape.
There are many people on Sythe that don't play RS.
Failed argument.
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I said "could of" i did not say they did, although sythe's main market is runescape which is how most came to find the site.

if your not going to take the time to read dont bother posting
guess you failed at your spam.
 
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What would be the point of this? They could just make a new account and scam... Waste of time and effort, since this has to be manually done. Not many people base their trust on the time they've been here because they know they could of made their account 4 years ago and never post until last week. Also what if someone leaves on holiday or takes a break you want sythe to delete their account + their posts they've made that could be informative? If you ban them then there'll be a lot of unban appeals making extra work for the mods when there's no need.
 
You could just, you know, not trust someone by default who hasn't posted since 2005...
 
deadly serious said:
What would be the point of this? They could just make a new account and scam... Waste of time and effort, since this has to be manually done. Not many people base their trust on the time they've been here because they know they could of made their account 4 years ago and never post until last week. Also what if someone leaves on holiday or takes a break you want sythe to delete their account + their posts they've made that could be informative? If you ban them then there'll be a lot of unban appeals making extra work for the mods when there's no need.
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im only trying to get the accounts who have never posted before deleted. Its like saying whats the point of making an account if you never use it an example of a possible scammer like this is "Virginity" im not too sure why he was banned but if it was for scamming he is a classic example he appeared out of nowhere just to be banned soon after. I do no for a fact he was trying to get people to go first because of his join date.

and yes people will remake accounts for scamming but they wont have the join date ect which is the problem in the first place.

its nice to think and say dont trust people based on join date but fact is some newer members do(not me personally)

i think making sythe a safer place for black market trading is somthing to benifit sythe not to ruin it.

I'll go thought the report a scammer archives and post a few examples of join date scams later on.
 
I agree, their account should indeed be locked under those circumstances. However, I would increase the allowed time to 6 months. If they don't achieve a single post in those 6 months, they have no need to be here.


And .Karl, you're correct. However, you also clearly don't see the problem with it. While individually they pose no harm, in a mass, they are very heavy. 1 user account may take up, say, 5kb, roughly. Now lets say there's a thousand of them. That's 5mb. Not much, really, but it adds up as there's probably 10s of thousands of these kinds of accounts, which would mean they could take up anywhere from 10mb to 1 gigabyte of space.

I don't believe deleting them is necessary, however, as space is not scarce. Bandwidth seems to be the only real issue on this site.
 
Deacon Frost said:
I agree, their account should indeed be locked under those circumstances. However, I would increase the allowed time to 6 months. If they don't achieve a single post in those 6 months, they have no need to be here.


And .Karl, you're correct. However, you also clearly don't see the problem with it. While individually they pose no harm, in a mass, they are very heavy. 1 user account may take up, say, 5kb, roughly. Now lets say there's a thousand of them. That's 5mb. Not much, really, but it adds up as there's probably 10s of thousands of these kinds of accounts, which would mean they could take up anywhere from 10mb to 1 gigabyte of space.

I don't believe deleting them is necessary, however, as space is not scarce. Bandwidth seems to be the only real issue on this site.
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Mm I think 6 months is a little short. At least a year, plus sometimes people just lurk.

I think they should delete all accounts made before January 2010 with 0 posts, as well as the ones with a year of inactivity.

It would prevent them from getting hacked and used by scammers.
 
The more members registered to Sythe, the better it looks.
 
Kadaj said:
The more members registered to Sythe, the better it looks.
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Then it depends on what sythe wants to go for, financial worth, or preventing fraudulent trades on his forum.

Maybe there is a way to just disable accounts.

-R-I-C-H- said:
What MemberList dude?
It say's "Disabled due to Abuse" in my browser.
How were you going over the names?
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http://www.sythe.org/memberlist.php works fine for me.

edit: RICH is right, doesn't work past the first page.
 
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