The Existence of God

[pure skillzz]

When there's proof of a god. i'll beleive in him
until then.. no thanks

It's called faith for a reason.

 

[ioioio175]

i do not beleive that god exists
why should all power be given to one man?
there is no scientific proof that he could have existed.

in my opinion (not to offend anyone) i think christianity was once (and still somewhat now) an evil religion, think about it there were alot of people that killed entire civilizations just to try to convert them. i think everyone should have the choice to believe what they want and should never be forced to believe in anything else. one prime example of this happening is the mayans, ever wonder why they are all dead?

 

[Finally_Found_Freedom]

i do not beleive that god exists
why should all power be given to one man?
there is no scientific proof that he could have existed.

in my opinion (not to offend anyone) i think christianity was once (and still somewhat now) an evil religion, think about it there were alot of people that killed entire civilizations just to try to convert them. i think everyone should have the choice to believe what they want and should never be forced to believe in anything else. one prime example of this happening is the mayans, ever wonder why they are all dead?

There won't even be scientific proof, like I said in my above post.

God is not capable of being proven in tangible terms. I'm not an expert on the proofs for god - and do not profess to be - but I am aware of that fact formerly stated. It's like trying to prove the existence of reality; because, as established, you can't prove something with a proof from that very thing. (i.e. Things are real, so reality exists) So how do you prove reality? The proof for the existence of god, if approached correctly, is the most difficult question ever posed. If you want an explanation, read some of the works from the great philosophers. I'm going to be reading Spinoza's view over the summer, though there are many more.

For now, however, it does not completely matter to me whether or not god exists, as I believe my religion is extremely important and meaningful in itself.

 

[dam prayer noobs]

God is not capable of being proven in tangible terms. I'm not an expert on the proofs for god - and do not profess to be - but I am aware of that fact formerly stated. It's like trying to prove the existence of reality; because, as established, you can't prove something with a proof from that very thing. (i.e. Things are real, so reality exists) So how do you prove reality? The proof for the existence of god, if approached correctly, is the most difficult question ever posed. If you want an explanation, read some of the works from the great philosophers. I'm going to be reading Spinoza's view over the summer, though there are many more.

This is probably the best answer I have seen on this thread to the question "what proof is there of God".

God is simply above this reality, therefore it is impossible to use tools from this reality to prove God. Therefore it does not really matter if you believe in him or not.

 

[нαχ]

Wow results are surprizing...

 

[Comprensión Mutua]

A theistic God is simply paradoxical.

Not only is omnipotence contravening of logic, but omnipotence, omnibenevolence and omniscience constitutes an inconsistent triad.

Iranaeus and Augustine's theodicies were both unsuccessful in refuting this.

 

[Mountain Goat]

My personal opinion is that i do not believe, mostly because i think in a factual way and there is no evidence for "god". But thats my opinion on god being some all seeing man(for a lack of a better term) who lives in heaven. The thing i do not like about this argument though is that so many people are so one sided on this and narrow minded, i like that alot of people believe in god. There's nothing wrong with wanting something to believe in.

 

[dam prayer noobs]

My personal opinion is that i do not believe, mostly because i think in a factual way and there is no evidence for "god". But thats my opinion on god being some all seeing man(for a lack of a better term) who lives in heaven. The thing i do not like about this argument though is that so many people are so one sided on this and narrow minded, i like that alot of people believe in god. There's nothing wrong with wanting something to believe in.

It's pretty egocentric to believe that what we know and see is all there is. There may be a whole world out there that is invisible to us and our instruments and that the rules of logic do not apply to. Keep in mind that we have not yet found the boundaries of the universe.

 

[Freely Drawn]

yeah i do believe, don't know why. I just do

 

[Deacon Frost]

It's pretty egocentric to believe that what we know and see is all there is. There may be a whole world out there that is invisible to us and our instruments and that the rules of logic do not apply to. Keep in mind that we have not yet found the boundaries of the universe.

To live your life based on the unseeable, however, isn't very rational.

Accept the possibility, and move on.

 

[Mondo]

i cant accept the fact that we were just created by dust particles in the universe that circulated and collided in each other to form earth than somehow mysteriously single celled organisms(life) was created on earth then some how evolved into complicated beings. so thats a reason god could exist

 

[Deacon Frost]

i cant accept the fact that we were just created by dust particles in the universe that circulated and collided in each other to form earth than somehow mysteriously single celled organisms(life) was created on earth then some how evolved into complicated beings. so thats a reason god could exist

Why does it matter how we came to be?

 

[Alex1994]

I don't beleive in a god, because of the up and coming evidence of evolution and science. However it would be nice to know that after you die, there would be a heaven or an afterlife.

 

[PieAndChips]

I am a christian, so of course, i think there is a god.
too be honest it's hard for me to Except that the world was made out of a "BANG". What caused the bang? or was there ever even a bang? and if so, what made it? surely we must have a creator, or the world wouldn't have been precisely perfect for us, with trees and plants to make us breath, Ores to make metal for everything we do. Everything that has happened has been planned out by god, or atleast that's my Belief, Go ahead and flame as much as you want, because i know that i'll receive salvation in heaven. and if i die and you guys are right, and i was beleiving in something false, Why would i care? i will have fun on the way, so either way it's made my life better

 

[Angelmax]

It's pretty egocentric to believe that what we know and see is all there is. There may be a whole world out there that is invisible to us and our instruments and that the rules of logic do not apply to. Keep in mind that we have not yet found the boundaries of the universe.

There may well be, but as you say, it's invisible. As Deacon said, it's fairly unwise to live in the unseeable.

 

[Angelmax]

i cant accept the fact that we were just created by dust particles in the universe that circulated and collided in each other to form earth than somehow mysteriously single celled organisms(life) was created on earth then some how evolved into complicated beings. so thats a reason god could exist

Because you can't accept anything else?

 

[iToke_Herb]

There is no evidence for God, there is no evidence for the creation of the Universe from Science. I watched a Discovery Channel documentary where top researchers discuss the Big Bang for 1 hour, and they claim that something came from nothing. Both stories may be farfetched, science and religion are both followed by belief. Anyone can piece together rational arguments to explain anything, it all matters on what you believe in. The foundation for every aspect of science is formulated on belief same way as religion.

I choose religion and God. Should I be criticized for this belief? No. Because of the simple fact that even gravity or any other law of physics can be disproved through the correct chain of rational thought. In fact, in the documentary I mentioned earlier, scientists are trying to explain how something came from nothing, which they claim they cannot do because it breaks the laws of physics.

So it all boils down to your belief. I believe there is a God.

 

[Angelmax]

that even gravity or any other law of physics can be disproved through the correct chain of rational thought.

Care to demonstrate?

 

[PieAndChips]

look in the bible

 

[Deacon Frost]

I am a christian, so of course, i think there is a god.
too be honest it's hard for me to Except that the world was made out of a "BANG". What caused the bang? or was there ever even a bang? and if so, what made it? surely we must have a creator, or the world wouldn't have been precisely perfect for us, with trees and plants to make us breath, Ores to make metal for everything we do. Everything that has happened has been planned out by god, or atleast that's my Belief, Go ahead and flame as much as you want, because i know that i'll receive salvation in heaven. and if i die and you guys are right, and i was beleiving in something false, Why would i care? i will have fun on the way, so either way it's made my life better

Not necessarily. Many people don't consider the consequences for their actions, and choosing a lifestyle in which you don't care about the future is not a very healthy way to live. You believe you are going to heaven, and live that way, but you also live under doubt that there is a heaven, which results in conflicted stress, which lowers your lifespan considerably.

Psychology and science can show that believing as you believe will reduce your life expectancy considerably (I don't care to fish for sources, believe it or not. It's obvious that it'll create stress, and stress does shorten ones life, so proof is in the pudding.)

Also, I believe Sythe would call what you just said a fallacy. You assume that everything must have a beginning, yet you assume there is a creator that is infinite. Contradictory, that is.

Also, the world didn't develop after humans, it developed prior to the existence of humans, or even life on Earth. We came into existence through a series of probable and consequential events because of the environment and the matter around it. Surprisingly, it worked out quite effectively, but the arrogant thinking you seem to have is that we are the only living species in the universe and we are the most technologically advanced.

While I have no proof, statistically, there is a higher chance that there are other planets with other animals far more advanced than the human race. It's also funny that you'd assume we're special based on this fact... like we're God's favorites.

Clearly, religious people have never studied astronomy and know nothing of probability. Lol.