Allow vouch for GFX sales

[Plznate]

To whichever mod changed my title, ILY

If a person can "vouch" someone for doing stupid things like free skilling for them, it seems irrational to me that you are unable to vouch someone who is doing a paid service for you. Just my opinion, sorta cuts the good GFX guys short.

 

See here's the problem:

Anyone open up paint, draw a stick person, give it to someone for free, and give them a vouch. I believe that's the problem that mods have with allowing vouches for GFX. When someone gets on your account for free training, you're still trusting them with your account, because they're on it and have full access to your account.

But, I can also see your point in this. If it is for PAID GFX, then I don't see why they shouldn't exchange vouches. It's dealing with money.

 

[driveahonda]

See here's the problem:

Anyone open up paint, draw a stick person, give it to someone for free, and give them a vouch. I believe that's the problem that mods have with allowing vouches for GFX. When someone gets on your account for free training, you're still trusting them with your account, because they're on it and have full access to your account.

But, I can also see your point in this. If it is for PAID GFX, then I don't see why they shouldn't exchange vouches. It's dealing with money.

but also someone can train 1 level, and call it a vouch. But i see both points of the issue.

 

but also someone can train 1 level, and call it a vouch. But i see both points of the issue.

Whether you train 1 level or 10 levels, you're still trusting the person with your account.

 

[Lukef555]

Being a gfxer myself youd think id support this. But the reason its not allowed isthe buyer isnt risking anything, they can see how there job is going and see it before they pay for it. When somone skills for you your putting your account at risk.

 

[driveahonda]

Whether you train 1 level or 10 levels, you're still trusting the person with your account.

but i mean it can be a level 3 account, train it to level 4 and it would classify as a vouch. There wouldn't be much risk involved, as the account is worthless.

 

but i mean it can be a level 3 account, train it to level 4 and it would classify as a vouch. There wouldn't be much risk involved, as the account is worthless.

I see your point there, but how often is that likely to happen? It'd be pointless to vouch.

Back on topic, vouches for paid GFX should be allowed.

 

[driveahonda]

I see your point there, but how often is that likely to happen? It'd be pointless to vouch.

Back on topic, vouches for paid GFX should be allowed.

Thats what im saying, if leveling levels up is classified as a vouch so should GFX sales. If theres is real money involved, vouches should be allowed

 

reason its not allowed isthe buyer isnt risking anything, they can see how there job is going and see it before they pay for it. When somone skills for you your putting your account at risk.

See here's the problem:

Anyone open up paint, draw a stick person, give it to someone for free, and give them a vouch. I believe that's the problem that mods have with allowing vouches for GFX. When someone gets on your account for free training, you're still trusting them with your account, because they're on it and have full access to your account.

^^

That has always been our reasoning. Afraid it's a no from me.

 

[Fed]

For a paid GFX, vouches should be awarded for a good service, it seems almost pointless not.

I understand that anyone could get a simple render and overlay some text and produce it for a vouch, but that's simple business that anyone can do and is not worthy of a vouch.

/Rant

 

[Draucia]

I think it should be allowed for PAID GFX.
Dealing with paid gfx requires some trust (unless you put a watermark on it, and request for payment before you send).

 

[Plznate]

With skilling, it requires trust on the part of the person giving the account to be skilled on, which merits a vouch.

With paid GFX, it takes trust on the part of the designer, that the person will in fact pay them after they create the GFX, which is the exact same situation, just flipped with the buyer/seller.

 

[Necromancer24]

I'd support on 1 condition. If the vouches were strictly for paid GFX only. It is pointless for free GFX.

 

[expertz]

I'd support on 1 condition. If the vouches were strictly for paid GFX only. It is pointless for free GFX.

exactly, i support.

 

[Clank]

Why are vouches a currency anyway.

Fix the system.

 

Don't allow with free GFX. Reason being:


I open up paint I make something in 5 minutes and expect a vouch.

 

[Plznate]

Right, I mean my point was if it is a legit GFX sale that is being purchased, a vouch should be allow. Obviously the system can be abused, as gohan said, but then again so can skilling or any other vouch reltaed trade (prime examples being vouching for 10 mins of work getting off tut island, or "selling" 4 letter names for 1k rsgp etc).

 

[Sin666]

It has little to do with the amount of trust involved - although even paid sigs show little, as they are generally sent as samples with anti-rip tags until paid for. (And, once made, there's no reason not to turn them over.) If a .01 sig is deemed undeserving of a vouch, what is the cut-off, and how do you enforce such a rule without people simply claiming they paid more simply for the ability to exchange vouches?

That aside, the rule against vouching really exists for two primary reasons: to preserve quality and to limit ripping.

The GFX mods at the time thought it better to leave the section to those with a genuine interest in learning how to create GFX. Good sigs take time to make - to find the right stock/render, to learn different techniques, to experiment with different styles/brushes, etc. They didn't want leechers only opening shops to farm hideous 5-minute sigs for vouches.

 

[Brendan]

I know this has been debated on probably for years, and that Staff have continued Denying it, but support.

Someone could vouch another person for getting 100xp in a skill, so either vouches need too be fixed up altogether, or Vouches for GFX need too be allowed.

 

[VisionEx]

Here's a real, logical reason why we took that away 2 years ago.

1. Spam in the sales area. Your Photoshop skills were limited, and you didn't want to know how to make them better when you could sell trash for 5 dollars.

2. Your 5 dollar trash made it so that we could not sell our 10 dollar signatures that may have taken us an hour or three to make.

3. Most importantly, once you've made and traded an image, it's final. There is no recovering an image back from the user. There is no stealing extra content away from the image while you're working to make it. It just doesn't relate on the same level with the working on, or trade of Runescape accounts.