DropKick Murphys
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non sequitur...unlimited power does not imply the ability to do anything.
a question that bugs me
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If god has the power to do anything, who or what had the power to create God?
Because, we're not him/it?
No, it's the only one you've heard of. If i'm wrong, tell me some other theorys you've heard of. - You may need this - www.google.com
I'm done.
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That's not what I wanted to hear from YOU. You keep answeering my easiest to answer question in each of my posts. I admit, forms of contradictons are able to exist, but not the form I'm asking about. If you want an example, I'll say there is nothing safe about a safe.
1. Bad example?
2. What are you talking about answering only your easiest questions? I answer the questions I feel like answering. Maybe it's true, or maybe I don't feel like debating you.
3. What if it was like the Fairy Odd Parents, and instead of when Timmy wished for something, it was taken from somewhere else, and it wasn't created from nothing.
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Um dude you posted saying that scientist have different thoughts about how the big gang occurred, I asked if you meant that there more than on eversion of it because YOU were implying that. Please post carefully next time and word it right. Seriously dude? LOL I dont know what to tell you but..wow
Haha nice reference to a cartoon show.
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I don't know, I just thought that while god's power is unlimited, it still doesn't mean he can do things that are logically impossible.
Just an interpretation of a word anyway, I just thought most people interpreted it likewise.
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Spiritually, maybe. In reality, no. Youre mixing the term between meanings among reality and those who are spiritual. I see what you mean, and if religion and spirtual hypes were proven right, you would be right by defining it as you did. But reality is the main thing were talking about, and in this reality something such as we spoke of cannot exist.
you say that god is impossible but the big bang isnt. what created the matter for the big bang? surley their cant be nothing in the universe and then their be somthing. god has always been and always will be
Finishing a post attempting to disprove another person's opinion with an even bolder opinion is a foolish way to debate.
Who said that God is impossible but the Big Bang isn't? You know what's funny, you're willing to believe that God is infinite, but you're quick to assume that everything needs to have a beginning. Do you understand the term 'infinite'?
Why? Maybe there was never nothing in the universe? Maybe you're making this question too difficult =/? The human mind naturally presumes there are barriers... Don't assume such when in a debate.
See, you're willing to say that God has been, and always will be, but you won't say that about the universe? I think your logic is flawed.
well if it has always been. why did it randomly start evolving/expand?
Why do you breathe? You have to make way for more air? Maybe your lungs just got so small they had no where to go but out?
I'm not suggesting a static universe, I'm suggesting that the universe doesn't have a beginning, and doesn't have an end...
The laws of conservation suggest just that =/
still didnt anser my question
I answered your question, you just didn't understand it.
The universe had no where else to go but out, so it did just that. It could have been a chain reaction, it could have been merely a force of reverse gravity... it could have been any number of things >.>..
The universe had no where else to go but out, so it did just that. It could have been a chain reaction, it could have been merely a force of reverse gravity... it could have been any number of things >.>..[/QUOTE]
no were to go but out is saying that it was growing but what made it grow??? what made the force of reverse gravity. if it was there something had to make it start growing. it cant have always been growing and always existing
no were to go but out is saying that it was growing but what made it grow??? what made the force of reverse gravity. if it was there something had to make it start growing. it cant have always been growing and always existing
According to the Christian Bible, the universe is just that... It has always been growing and existing.
A freak reaction could make it grow. There's only so many odds before something connects.
Lets say you have 30 laser pointers pointed at a wall forming a circle. Now make these spin at such a fast random rotation that they are to such a fine point that you can't see the light on the wall. If any of these touch, everything goes crazy, and stops, then explodes. Since the random rotation is just that, random, it's inevitable that eventually, a certain number will match another number, and thus the causation of them connecting will occur.
It's all about probability... You have all the matter in the universe collapsing within itself in an incredible gravitational force, that it's only a matter of seconds before it cannot maintain such a force, and... simply has to stop.
Seriously, if you don't understand this, just stop posting. It's really getting to be spammy, and this section is for intelligent posting =/.
i understand but i dont think you do. who set up the laser pointers and made them spin? it all comes down to how did it get there and why it started doing what ever it is you say it did. which you cant explain.
Again, you're attempting to put a beginning to something which the only possible beginning we can conceive is a previous end. You think the universe had to be created, yet you're a hypocrite because you claim God is infinite.
Who created God? Who created that which created God?
Do you understand where that is going?
Time exists in a different dimension, and is merely an abstract we've created to plot our meaningless lives. Stop assuming there's a beginning, or an end for that matter.
yes but you cannot explain to me what i have continuly asked which is how so good day maybe you will understand one day
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LMFAO
You're asking where the big bang came from and you say god exist. My argument was he doesn't exist. Its impossible. the big bang is possible and exist.
If you ask where the big bang came from, thats far from being answered, why not ask the same for the God thing?
You didn't post any reasonable questions, instead purposely posted unanswerable questions knowing it CANT be answered. You have no argument, and if you do it has no support or logic.
What he said.
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