a question that bugs me

[Deacon Frost]

I see where all you atheists are coming from and your points against god are very good but there's just one thing I don't understand.

Why won't you believe in god?

God's morals are all good and he teaches to follow the 10 commandments, and to generally help others, so my question is why not believe in God and follow his morals? And if he's not real so what, you lived a great life and will be forever remembered as a kind and loving person, and if he is then bam you just got eternal happiness. You would lose nothing. Why take the risk?

Are you all really that concerned about pride? Is pride going to get you friends, a family and happiness?
Is pride going to get you remembered forever?
Is pride going to help anyone?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again... if there is a deity according to the major religions, I'd sooner spit in its face than worship it . But to the topic of why...

God does not create morals, nor does he teach you anything. He does not help you, in any way, shape or form. So no, your rationalization that 'God' is behind all this is false. For one, morals existed before the Christian God came into perspective. It is in mans ability to reason from which morals were produced. I fail to see why indulging that is wrong =/.

Most Christian's I've encountered will not be remembered. In fact, I make a point to not remember any religious fanatics. I also refuse to play a 'safe' card based purely on speculation =/.

And can you really say that religion has been good for the world? Can you really say that the word of God has made this life a better life?

=/.

 

[pie4muh]

there was no big bang. god created the universe. god has always been and always will be. time is in gods hands

 

[gtdarkpunisher]

there was no big bang. god created the universe. god has always been and always will be. time is in gods hands

This section is to provide constructive opinion, not a simple sentence saying your opinon without support or facts.

The big bang has been highly accepted as theres is great evidence backing it up. You believe in the impossible, I believe in something thats at least possible.

 

[Haunted]

Religion is taught to people, how can something that's taught to us the truth?
If I would've lived in the jungle and never heard of a god would I go to hell?
Because noone taught me to believe?

Religion is a mass weapon of destruction and was developed to be a mass control tool.
How religion came to be? Some guy had dreams about someone talking and preaching the "truth" to him.
Soon people realised they could control people because of it and people were willing to die for their god, give money and make other sacrifices.

 

[The Riddler_]

This section is to provide constructive opinion, not a simple sentence saying your opinon without support or facts.

The big bang has been highly accepted as theres is great evidence backing it up. You believe in the impossible, I believe in something thats at least possible.

False, people have even said that the Big Bang Theory was supporting the fact of creationsm. I haven't looked into the Theory enough to know what they're talking about, but I will soon.

Things that don't make sense, usually aren't true.

Hahahaha.

God started when some random guy made up a story to make a new religion and billions of dollars.

God DOES NOT exist.

Back in biblical times the only religion making money were the Catholics

Sythe quoted this before
"Omnipotence is an attribute which means unlimited in power - without limitations to action. This attribute is paradoxical and can be shown as impossible through the following argument: Question: Can an omnipotent entity, X, create a rock that X can not lift? If yes, then X is not omnipotent; if no, then X is not omnipotent.
Therefore X is not omnipotent. "


"Therefore god is a contradiction, therefore god cannot exist in reality."--Sythe

If God exist to you, then you have your own reality. Being quite odd..

God is a thought at the most, not higher power that exist.


And Deacon, nicely explained =]

Get your own thoughts and stop using others.

Since there was nothing before the big bang, God doesn't exist, never had, and never will, as it is impossible for a living being - let alone anything - to create out of nothing.

Shush.

Haiku Poetry
Touches true spirit of words
Explains big with small

Ha.

God is moronic because energy isn't creatable. He didn't just... POOF

Yes, we know the law. But, what if God doesn't create, he rearranges fate/time for things to happen.

 

[gtdarkpunisher]

False, people have even said that the Big Bang Theory was supporting the fact of creationism I haven't looked into the Theory enough to know what they're talking about, but I will soon.

Hahahaha.

Back in biblical times the only religion making money were the Catholics

Get your own thoughts and stop using others.

Shush.

Ha.

Yes, we know the law. But, what if God doesn't create, he rearranges fate/time for things to happen.

Youre almost right, the big bang theory was somewhat started by creationism but science has now backed it up; which incidentally was religious beliefs until some took it serious and made it scientifically proven. After that religon denied the big bang theory as it proved their beliefs wrong Do some reading please.
LMFAO it is my thought, but it was humorous as I thought of sythe when I remembered he said this before. Quoting others doesn't mean it wasnt a shared thought..
Youre just spamming with the rest of your post...

 

[pie4muh]

Religion is taught to people, how can something that's taught to us the truth?
If I would've lived in the jungle and never heard of a god would I go to hell?
Because noone taught me to believe?

yes you would go to hell. because you didnt accept jesus. you dont have to go to sunday school and be taught to accept jesus and go to heaven

 

[The Riddler_]

Youre almost right, the big bang theory was somewhat started by creationism but science has now backed it up; which incidentally was religious beliefs until some took it serious and made it scientifically proven. After that religon denied the big bang theory as it proved their beliefs wrong Do some reading please.
LMFAO it is my thought, but it was humorous as I thought of sythe when I remembered he said this before. Quoting others doesn't mean it wasnt a shared thought..
Youre just spamming with the rest of your post...

Almost? Many people don't even think the Big Bang Theory is true for many reasnos. Not even your beloved Sythe thinks it.


Also, yea it was spam, but it was responses to previous posts.

 

[saintt]

yes you would go to hell. because you didnt accept jesus. you dont have to go to sunday school and be taught to accept jesus and go to heaven

Wtf this thread makes no sense..?


And tbh there has to be a god? who made the matter that created the big bang?

 

[gtdarkpunisher]

Almost? Many people don't even think the Big Bang Theory is true for many reasnos. Not even your beloved Sythe thinks it.


Also, yea it was spam, but it was responses to previous posts.

Haha no need flame. The main reasons it is not believe its because they think of how could it happened if that created existence. It is accepted by the scientific community, that more specific happy? But of course I only accept it to a certain extend. I believe there was more to the big bang that what is said.
And that last mention of Sythe is totally irrelevant to the argument.

 

[Cjmt905]

I like were this is going. This is just a hard question to answer because everyone has different thought. And to The Riddler nobody is spamming, and if they do I will take care of it

 

[The Riddler_]

Haha no need flame. The main reasons it is not believe its because they think of how could it happened if that created existence. It is accepted by the scientific community, that more specific happy? But of course I only accept it to a certain extend. I believe there was more to the big bang that what is said.
And that last mention of Sythe is totally irrelevant to the argument.

The thought isn't actually shared by the scientific community. They have very diverse thoughts of how it all began, but this is not one of them.

I like were this is going. This is just a hard question to answer because everyone has different thought. And to The Riddler nobody is spamming, and if they do I will take care of it

Kay

 

[Sup3r 4ut03r]

God is moronic because energy isn't creatable. He didn't just... POOF.

Yes, we know the law. But, what if God doesn't create, he rearranges fate/time for things to happen.

Still, how does one man/thing/immortal/contradiction do such a thing? You can't mend time and space, let alone fate, which IS a beleif. Fate isn't something that can be proven. I listen to my iPod on shuffle. I wonder, if I listen to this whole song, will the outcome be different if I didn't skip it? That would be unable to be proven, thus invalid in the first place. "It was my fate to hear that song." How can I test this? I can't, the only logic is to observe the different outcomes through time travel.

Contradictions can not exist, because they would then bend the laws of time and space. Such as,

Let God the almighty create a stone, which he cannot pickup.

That is a contradiction. If God is almighty, how can he create a stone which he cannot pickup? If he can't pick it up, he is not almighty, if he can't create the stone, he is not almighty.

 

[The Riddler_]

Still, how does one man/thing/immortal/contradiction do such a thing? You can't mend time and space, let alone fate, which IS a beleif. Fate isn't something that can be proven. I listen to my iPod on shuffle. I wonder, if I listen to this whole song, will the outcome be different if I didn't skip it? That would be unable to be proven, thus invalid in the first place. "It was my fate to hear that song." How can I test this? I can't, the only logic is to observe the different outcomes through time travel.

Contradictions can not exist, because they would then bend the laws of time and space. Such as,

That is a contradiction. If God is almighty, how can he create a stone which he cannot pickup? If he can't pick it up, he is not almighty, if he can't create the stone, he is not almighty.

Lol @ the contradiction part.



Something WILL happen. But if you do something else, then the outcome will be different. I'm not saying like...."It was fate that we met" I'm saying fate, is a way to insure you doing something or something happening.

 

[Cjmt905]

Sup3r correct me if i'm wrong, but I understand that you say God is not real?

 

[Sup3r 4ut03r]

Sup3r correct me if i'm wrong, but I understand that you say God is not real?

Yes.

To The_Riddler, how can (still) one man/thing/immortal/contradiction mend FATE? If it was possible, then why can't we? If he is almighty, how can he create a stone he can't pickup?

 

[DropKick Murphys]

That is a contradiction. If God is almighty, how can he create a stone which he cannot pickup? If he can't pick it up, he is not almighty, if he can't create the stone, he is not almighty.

It depends on what your definition of almighty or omnipotent is. If you define it as the ability to do anything conceivable then yes, god is a contradiction and therefore cannot exist in reality. If you define it as the ability to do something logically possible, then god could exist.

 

[Sup3r 4ut03r]

It depends on what your definition of almighty or omnipotent is. If you define it as the ability to do anything conceivable then yes, god is a contradiction and therefore cannot exist in reality. If you define it as the ability to do something logically possible, then god could exist.

al⋅might⋅y
  /ɔlˈmaɪti/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [awl-mahy-tee] Show IPA
Use almighty in a Sentence
–adjective
1. having unlimited power; omnipotent, as God.
2. having very great power, influence, etc.: The almighty press condemned him without trial.
3. Informal. extreme; terrible: He's in an almighty fix.

Unlimited power concludes to be a synonym for almighty or the ability to do anything.

 

[gtdarkpunisher]

The thought isn't actually shared by the scientific community. They have very diverse thoughts of how it all began, but this is not one of them.

Kay

The Big Bang Theory is accepted by the scientific community; you seem to say this Big Bang theory is a different version than what they think of? If so, please explain how.

 

[gtdarkpunisher]

It depends on what your definition of almighty or omnipotent is. If you define it as the ability to do anything conceivable then yes, god is a contradiction and therefore cannot exist in reality. If you define it as the ability to do something logically possible, then god could exist.

An omnipotent and almighty are both paradoxical and contradictions. They cannot exist in reality. If you define it differently, you are redefining reality, therefore only you know that reality;meaning you are always right in that reality since you create what is logically possible.