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What's your perspective on them.

Some questions to discuss:
Are most of them regular people like you and me getting caught up in the wrong things? Are they not like you and me and useless? Does it directly correlate to who you associate yourself with? Would you agree that it is easy to get addicted to a drug, in moderation? Wouldn't it be difficult to quit practicing the use of drugs? If you sell drugs, is that wrong (morally)?
 
Meth users yes. Coke addicts maybe. Weed addicts no.

The people made and choice and they knew the effects of each one. It's their own fault for being hooked on it in the first place.
 
Meth users yes. Coke addicts maybe. Weed addicts no.

The people made and choice and they knew the effects of each one. It's their own fault for being hooked on it in the first place.

What's the difference of what drug it is, other than weed? Say you associate yourself with 10 kids, these kids all do coke. Say you associate yourself with 10 other kids, these kids all do meth. You eventually get addicted to one of the substance just do to the fact of the pressure to fit in with them. What doesn't make you a regular person?
 
I'm not a subject to peer pressure. If I don't want to, then I don't want to.

People who are pressured into doing thing have the thought in the back of their minds already and it just gave them chance. Btw, to me, Coke is something you can do occasionally. Meth is not.
 
In my opinion, all drug abusers have made a moral decision to compromise their health and safety for the short-term high. All drugs, that includes marijuana, cocaine, meth, etc. are substances that one decides to take, and must suffer the consequences from. Most drug abusers/addicts were pressured by their peers, and even sometimes family.

I believe if somebody is over the age of 21, they should be able to take/sell/buy drugs as they please. Kids, however, are a completely different situation. They don't have the common sense, or enough background knowledge to make a sensible decision. They are molding, and shouldn't be affected by foreign substances.

If a human being decides to destroy their bodies and loved ones around them, that should be a decision they make, and they must suffer from it. I don't believe the law should intrude with that. However, drug dealers should not be able to deal to kids and teens for obvious reason that are stated above.
 
I believe if somebody is over the age of 21, they should be able to take/sell/buy drugs as they please. Kids, however, are a completely different situation. They don't have the common sense, or enough background knowledge to make a sensible decision. They are molding, and shouldn't be affected by foreign substances.

If a human being decides to destroy their bodies and loved ones around them, that should be a decision they make, and they must suffer from it. I don't believe the law should intrude with that.

How can you determine that someone, if anyone, has the common sense to sell/buy/use drugs. Drugs are contraband, when drugs get involved so does poor decision making and problems- it's a statistic.

The law is trying to protect the people. When people use drugs they aren't using them to destroy their lives, they are using them either due to addiction or for a short term high. Most people don't even realize the consequences of drugs until it's far too late and getting help is difficult. Drugs wouldn't be illegal if they had positive effects. I don't think weed should be considered in this discussion because it's not as addicting nor as dangerous. Drugs users don't typically notice that the drugs effect their social environments as well.

The government realizes that these substance have many many many adverse effects therefor they are illegal.
 
How can you determine that someone, if anyone, has the common sense to sell/buy/use drugs. Drugs are contraband, when drugs get involved so does poor decision making and problems- it's a statistic.
As I said before, we're talking about adults here. Adults have common sense, they know how to rationalize, and they know how to make an educated decision. If someone makes a poor decision, they should suffer the consequences from not researching further into its side-affects and problems it could cause.

The law is trying to protect the people. When people use drugs they aren't using them to destroy their lives, they are using them either due to addiction or for a short term high.
Adults who first make the decision to take drugs know the consequences. They've heard the stories, and they know about the negative affects drugs have. Nonetheless, they still choose to abuse them, thus destroying their lives. If someone makes a bad decision, let them live with it.

Most people don't even realize the consequences of drugs until it's far too late and getting help is difficult.
I strongly disagree with this. People know the effects of drugs, as well as the consequences even before they start doing it. It's practically common sense.

Drugs wouldn't be illegal if they had positive effects. I don't think weed should be considered in this discussion because it's not as addicting nor as dangerous. Drugs users don't typically notice that the drugs effect their social environments as well.
I agree to an extent. Some drugs are illegal, even if they have positive effects. Look at marijuana for example. The only reason it's illegal in most countries/states is because it isn't taxable.
 
As I said before, we're talking about adults here. Adults have common sense, they know how to rationalize, and they know how to make an educated decision. If someone makes a poor decision, they should suffer the consequences from not researching further into its side-affects and problems it could cause.

Oh good idea, we should let the general drug using population all fail. Regardless of rationalization, everyone knows they are useless in terms of using them. When you let situations like that occur, it doesn't only effect the person it effects a wider range of people including the general public. It's an opinionated response, I'm disputing your integrity or viewpoints, but I think that allowing drug users to "self destruct" is a very foolish idea- thus we don't allow them to fail due to all the laws and restrictions we have on drugs.

I strongly disagree with this. People know the effects of drugs, as well as the consequences even before they start doing it. It's practically common sense.

You already professed that...
 
Oh good idea, we should let the general drug using population all fail.
I agree. Our society would only improve from it.

Regardless of rationalization, everyone knows they are useless in terms of using them. When you let situations like that occur, it doesn't only effect the person it effects a wider range of people including the general public.
It doesn't affect the 'general public' at all. So what you're saying is that if my neighbor smoked meth, it would affect me? I think not.

It's an opinionated response, I'm disputing your integrity or viewpoints, but I think that allowing drug users to "self destruct" is a very foolish idea- thus we don't allow them to fail due to all the laws and restrictions we have on drugs.
First of all, if people wish to 'self-destruct,' let them. Secondly, Drug abusers do 'fail' on an everyday basis. In case you haven't read the news lately, laws and restrictions don't stop drug addicts from buying/selling/abusing drugs whatsoever. On the occasion a person is incarcerated due to drug-related issues, it only postpones their actions, and they will most likely go straight back to abusing drugs.

You already professed that...
I know I already professed that. You're non-sensible response made me restate what I had already professed.
 
I agree. Our society would only improve from it.


It doesn't affect the 'general public' at all. So what you're saying is that if my neighbor smoked meth, it would affect me? I think not.


First of all, if people wish to 'self-destruct,' let them. Secondly, Drug abusers do 'fail' on an everyday basis. In case you haven't read the news lately, laws and restrictions don't stop drug addicts from buying/selling/abusing drugs whatsoever. On the occasion a person is incarcerated due to drug-related issues, it only postpones their actions, and they will most likely go straight back to abusing drugs.


I know I already professed that. You're non-sensible response made me restate what I had already professed.

I see that you are the "fight the machine" type.

I didn't mean we have the means of prevention to stop drug addicts from failing, I meant that we have certain laws and restriction on drugs which would lead people away from using drugs. There are MANY laws on buying/selling/using drugs. There are probably more incarcerations on drugs than any other.

My nonsensical response...?
My response was based upon the fact that the laws are put into place in order to attempt to deter those from using/selling/buying drugs. The main reason why people don't do drugs is because of the restrictions that are placed upon them.
 
I see that you are the "fight the machine" type.
False.

I didn't mean we have the means of prevention to stop drug addicts from failing, I meant that we have certain laws and restriction on drugs which would lead people away from using drugs.
Laws don't prevent people from breaking them.

There are MANY laws on buying/selling/using drugs. There are probably more incarcerations on drugs than any other.
I agree with this. But you just contradicted yourself.

The main reason why people don't do drugs is because of the restrictions that are placed upon them.
Once again, my friend, you are wrong. The main reason why people don't do drugs is because of moral values and/or religious beliefs.
 
I think that drug addicts are regular people who just got depressed one die and decided to try it, and got hooked. I don't judge them for what they do. I could be doing it anytime, and I wouldn't want people to judge me. I do think it's bad to sell drugs, though.
 
Laws don't prevent people from breaking them. Once again, my friend, you are wrong. The main reason why people don't do drugs is because of moral values and/or religious beliefs.

Law sometimes don't stop people from breaking them, but they sure do serve as a deterrent. Sure moral values are important in the decision making process, but you can sit there and say one of the leading causes which people stay way from them are because of the law, drugs would be abused much more heavily in the city and such if there were no restrictions on them.
 
Law sometimes don't stop people from breaking them, but they sure do serve as a deterrent. Sure moral values are important in the decision making process, but you can sit there and say one of the leading causes which people stay way from them are because of the law, drugs would be abused much more heavily in the city and such if there were no restrictions on them.

I agree with your idea of laws being deterrents. However, I wouldn't go as far as to say that laws and restrictions are the biggest deterrents.
 
Law sometimes don't stop people from breaking them, but they sure do serve as a deterrent. Sure moral values are important in the decision making process, but you can sit there and say one of the leading causes which people stay way from them are because of the law, drugs would be abused much more heavily in the city and such if there were no restrictions on them.
So you are saying that allot more people in The Netherlands smoke weed then they do in the US? I highly doubt that
 
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