The Existence of God

[Poker Player]

God exist so yes. Do not come with evolution theory because its bullshit.

To be honest, i think that Shredderbeam has converted me. I really don't believe in god anymore. And why is evolution bull shit? There is no proof for existence of god and tell us why is the theory of evolution bull shit?

 

[Sparkz180]

I dont believe in God. The big bang theory may not be how everything started but I do not believe a man who existed before humans could have made the Earth. Also, if God is some type of spirit and we are meant to be created in his image... How the hell did he die before anything existed?

 

[ToastedApple]

I feel there is no yes or no to that question. I think there is to some point something that created earth and the rest of the universe, something godlike, but not necessarily a huge man with beard! I think god is something we can't fully understand, and won't ever understand until we die. It'll all be obvious then.

It all depends on the definition of "God" really.

 

i believe god greatly but my parents never got me baptized or put me in any c.c.d programs and such as. i have been to church a view times but that's it i personally though believe in him greatly i look forward to getting baptized in future.

 

[DropKick Murphys]

i believe god greatly but my parents never got me baptized or put me in any c.c.d programs and such as. i have been to church a view times but that's it i personally though believe in him greatly i look forward to getting baptized in future.

Heh, I'm like the exact opposite of you.
I was Baptized and Confirmed and all that and go to church every Sunday, but don't believe in a god.

Might as well ask, why do you think there is a god?

 

[Malachia]

Double Post.

 

[Malachia]

Yes, A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

 

[deathbydialup]

I do not believe in the existence of god. I don't feel need to invoke god to answer questions or address concerns. To me religion is just a form of control, a very sophisticated and effective one.

 

[danielOATH]

No, I don't. I also feel that that's a rather ridiculous question to ask. An invisible man in the sky, who thinks, and watches what we do? What a preposterous notion! I mean, is there any empirical evidence to support this view? I think not!

thats a typical atheists view on Christianity.
no where in the bible does it say that God is in the sky.. and anyone who thinks that.. well.. i wouldnt expect them to be turning christian any time soon.

how do you explain the existence of the earth then?

the big bang theory? a bunch of particles coming together forming a particle of energy smaller than an atom.. and the gravity present being exactly equal to the amount of energy being emitted from the explosion creating what we know as being the universe? then once earth came to be.. SOMEHOW a single celled organism originating from nothing.. eventually came to be more than a single cell? then slowly adapting into multitudes of creatures and insects etc.??

this, to me, sounds more absurd.

 

[xx mdv xx]

thats a typical atheists view on Christianity.
no where in the bible does it say that God is in the sky.. and anyone who thinks that.. well.. i wouldnt expect them to be turning christian any time soon.

how do you explain the existence of the earth then?

the big bang theory? a bunch of particles coming together forming a particle of energy smaller than an atom.. and the gravity present being exactly equal to the amount of energy being emitted from the explosion creating what we know as being the universe? then once earth came to be.. SOMEHOW a single celled organism originating from nothing.. eventually came to be more than a single cell? then slowly adapting into multitudes of creatures and insects etc.??

this, to me, sounds more absurd.

I completely agree with you, I need more faith to be an atheist and less faith to believe in a creator. Science also proves that the universe didn't always exist, and the Big Bang atom is a piece of matter and matter didn't always exist because the universe didn't always exist, meaning there was a point when time, matter, and space didn't even exist, they all had a beginning. How do atheists explain the beginning of the universe? Because the Big Bang can't explain it.

 

[Rhett3]

I don't think there is a god because it just doesn't even seem remotely possible if you think about it logically.

 

[Void Killer]

although I am part of the church, i would still regard myself as an atheist.
I do not believe in god. Thats mostly because there is no actual evidence that supports the existence of god. There is, however, a huge pile of evidence that says god does not exist.

God is more of a illusion that people have of a higher power that controls their life, because deep inside they don't know what to do. It gives people false hope and they choose to believe in it because it may seem very real.

Also, the Catholic church has proven many times that they don't really have a clue about whats going on (even though they claim that they are the link to god). Some examples would be when the Catholic church swore that the universe rotated around earth, When the Catholic church claimed that women do not have souls (which was later proven wrong (by the Catholic church))


its actually kinda funny when you think about it..

 

[Void Killer]

how do you explain the existence of the earth then?

the big bang theory? a bunch of particles coming together forming a particle of energy smaller than an atom.. and the gravity present being exactly equal to the amount of energy being emitted from the explosion creating what we know as being the universe? then once earth came to be.. SOMEHOW a single celled organism originating from nothing.. eventually came to be more than a single cell? then slowly adapting into multitudes of creatures and insects etc.??

this, to me, sounds more absurd.

i dont see anything absurd about that..

what about:

god? some old dude who controls everything yet nobody sober has ever seen him. Nobody knows where the hell he came from, and SOMEHOW he created the whole universe from.. umm.. nothing? After doing a whopping 6 days of work, he rests for 1 day, then he gets the fuck outta here and nobody ever sees him? then one day some dude who claims to be jesus is born, yet there is NO evidence of this whatsoever. And while all this is happening on this side of the earth, all kinds of other shit goes on on the other side where all those hindus and muslims live and they also see a crapload of gods with elephant heads and crap, and yet we dont have any idea about any of it, even though according to their belief, their god created the earth, but according to your belief, our god created the earth...

HOW THE FUCK CAN 2 GODS CREATE 1 EARTH WITHOUT ANYBODY KNOWING ABOUT IT!?!?

yes... i think thats very reasonable

 

[DropKick Murphys]

I completely agree with you, I need more faith to be an atheist and less faith to believe in a creator. Science also proves that the universe didn't always exist, and the Big Bang atom is a piece of matter and matter didn't always exist because the universe didn't always exist, meaning there was a point when time, matter, and space didn't even exist, they all had a beginning. How do atheists explain the beginning of the universe? Because the Big Bang can't explain it.

"The Big Bang atom"

Maybe if you had any idea what you were talking about people would take you seriously.

 

[xx mdv xx]

"The Big Bang atom"

Maybe if you had any idea what you were talking about people would take you seriously.

The Big Bang is an atom that holds the whole universe. I'm guessing you've never heard of the Big Bang Theory.

 

[Damien0124]

When the Catholic church claimed that women do not have souls (which was later proven wrong (by the Catholic church))

People do not have souls.

How do atheists explain the beginning of the universe? Because the Big Bang can't explain it.

Atheists cannot explain the beginning of the universe, theists can't either. There (still) is no solid proof of how the universe started, but that doesn't mean god did it.

 

[Personal Jesus]

how do you explain the existence of the earth then?

the big bang theory? a bunch of particles coming together forming a particle of energy smaller than an atom.. and the gravity present being exactly equal to the amount of energy being emitted from the explosion creating what we know as being the universe?

Hm? The magnitude of gravity was asymmetric to begin with. As more sub-atomic particles attracted one another, the gravitational mass increased; thus causing the magnitude of the gravity to increase. It's not all as simple as you put it out to be.

then once earth came to be.. SOMEHOW a single celled organism originating from nothing.. eventually came to be more than a single cell? then slowly adapting into multitudes of creatures and insects etc.??

this, to me, sounds more absurd.

The single-celled organisms didn't originate from 'nothing' - that is (god I hate repeating myself) Creationist-propaganda used to bullshit the scientifically illiterate masses. The exact cause has yet to be uncovered, but there are numerous logical theories - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis#Current_models

I completely agree with you, I need more faith to be an atheist and less faith to believe in a creator. Science also proves that the universe didn't always exist, and the Big Bang atom is a piece of matter and matter didn't always exist because the universe didn't always exist, meaning there was a point when time, matter, and space didn't even exist, they all had a beginning. How do atheists explain the beginning of the universe? Because the Big Bang can't explain it.

The Big Bang explains the expansion of time, matter and space, not the beginning of the Universe. After the Big Bang, planets shaped due to matter being gravitational mass. The beginning of the Universe is unknown, but physical existence itself has always been. You'd probably be better off having Shredderbeam elaborate on this, seeing as astrophysics isn't one of my stronger sides.

 

[SuF]

Atheists cannot explain the beginning of the universe, theists can't either. There (still) is no solid proof of how the universe started, but that doesn't mean god did it.

Theist explanation of the creation of the universe:

God made it...

Atheist explanation of the creation of the universe:

A: It has been around forever and will remain forever.
B: It was created by a force that we do not know of.

There is no proof on how it happened, but they can still explain how they think it happened...

 

[Shredderbeam]

To be honest, i think that Shredderbeam has converted me. I really don't believe in god anymore. And why is evolution bull shit? There is no proof for existence of god and tell us why is the theory of evolution bull shit?

i believe god greatly but my parents never got me baptized or put me in any c.c.d programs and such as. i have been to church a view times but that's it i personally though believe in him greatly i look forward to getting baptized in future.

Why do you believe in a God?

Yes, A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

Why do you believe in a God?

thats a typical atheists view on Christianity.
no where in the bible does it say that God is in the sky.. and anyone who thinks that.. well.. i wouldnt expect them to be turning christian any time soon.

Sorry, naïve realism.

how do you explain the existence of the earth then?

There are various competing theories - but the position that you are coming from is fundamentally flawed. To demonstrate that God created the earth, you would have to do more than refute the theories of mainstream science. You would have to provide actual evidence of a deity creating a planet.

the big bang theory? a bunch of particles coming together forming a particle of energy smaller than an atom.. and the gravity present being exactly equal to the amount of energy being emitted from the explosion creating what we know as being the universe? then once earth came to be.. SOMEHOW a single celled organism originating from nothing.. eventually came to be more than a single cell? then slowly adapting into multitudes of creatures and insects etc.??

I'm not sure how much education you've had on the subject matter, but it might help you in this debate if you read into the fundamentals a bit more.

See:

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

this, to me, sounds more absurd.

So does General Relativity.

I completely agree with you, I need more faith to be an atheist and less faith to believe in a creator. Science also proves that the universe didn't always exist, and the Big Bang atom is a piece of matter and matter didn't always exist because the universe didn't always exist, meaning there was a point when time, matter, and space didn't even exist, they all had a beginning. How do atheists explain the beginning of the universe? Because the Big Bang can't explain it.

Science does not prove that the universe didn't always exist. I don't know why you keep saying this.

To demonstrate that God initiated the Big Bang, you would have to provide actual evidence that he did.

The Big Bang is an atom that holds the whole universe. I'm guessing you've never heard of the Big Bang Theory.

>_>

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

 

[hashslinger]

I dont see why you people keep argueing this.

There are experts who are a hundred times smarter than us on the subjuct and they dedicate their life to this. You guys wont find the solution to this.

Right now there is not enough proof on both sides to put up a legitmit blief system. Untill people have proof they will never win. Currently neither side has legitmit proof.

You will never be able to prove religion. You will also never be able to disprove religion.

I dont know what this post contributed... but... I just dont see what you are arguing over.

P.S. Shredder I was apart of a twelve week program called "The Truth Project" it was amasing how they spelled out hard questions in black and white.

I reccomend you watch it you can check out the "trailer" here. http://www.thetruthproject.org/