Theft of virtual goods.

[Grave]

Different things, to be sued for trading Runescape Items? No. Otherwise 500,000 of the scamming children playing Runescape would have a juvenile record.

Not sued; community service should do fine. That will teach kids not to steal in any way, even virtually.

Agreed. Yet Grave, I remember you posted a thread a long time back directed to someone who scammed you going. "You be sued in court, bitch."

You have a horrible memory.

I can't steal something that isn't tangible.

You can. Go read the laws.
Some examples: Ideas, Virtual Goods...

Also read the definition of "Steal".

 

[Alteranz]

No, they are pixels on a screen. Unless they stand for wealth in real life like bank money or stocks then it shouldn't be theft. And also, I just realised... TJ are you from NZ? I was looking at the link and it's for the New Zealand Herald. If so, I live in Auckland, Wbu?

 

[Grave]

No, they are pixels on a screen. Unless they stand for wealth in real life like bank money or stocks then it shouldn't be theft. And also, I just realised... TJ are you from NZ? I was looking at the link and it's for the New Zealand Herald. If so, I live in Auckland, Wbu?

They exist on Jagex's servers. If you want to say it that way, then stocks are imaginary too. It does stand for real life wealth. 2 Billion GP = $5,000-10,000.

 

[Unanswered]

I don't see why they didn't just give the kids a slap on the wrist, get ahold of jagex, tell them what happened, and ban the two kids accounts and give the other kid his mask and amulet back

 

[Thecreed42]

Uh unless you loose real money from being scammed it shouldn't be illegal. It's your fault for not being smart enough to spot a scam.

 

[WinterDreamZ4]

Well, as i have saw the post about the kids beating up a 13 year old for some rs items, i thought, is it really punishable to steal non-existant items? I mean really, the items are virtual. The only thing you would be stealing is time, which you cannot get back.

So, should the theft of virtual items be punishable by law?

Btw, this is the article :http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10538822

Post your thoughts.

They should punish the kids ...not for stealing virtual goods but for beating someone for it...In my country someone got arrested and sued because of this.

I say no because the items are property of the game maker...not the player.

 

[TJ]

TJ are you from NZ? I was looking at the link and it's for the New Zealand Herald. If so, I live in Auckland, Wbu?

I simply saw the article somewhere. I live in Ohio, America.

They exist on Jagex's servers. If you want to say it that way, then stocks are imaginary too. It does stand for real life wealth. 2 Billion GP = $5,000-10,000.

Yes, but doing so breaks the ToS of the site. Not punishable by law, but still punishable by game. Tangible goods only exist.

I don't see why they didn't just give the kids a slap on the wrist, get ahold of jagex, tell them what happened, and ban the two kids accounts and give the other kid his mask and amulet back

Jagex wouldn't give the kid's items back anyways..since the kid's wouldn't be able to prove that they were there's. They beat the kid up, they deserve something.

 

[Damien0124]

Like I said before in this thread: You do not own any of the items you collect ingame. All items are property of the company. You cannot sue somebody because they stole "your" goods, because the goods are property of the company who created the game, or holds the rights to the game.

 

[The Riddler_]

GP in a sense can be look at as if it was a symbol or an object to show the effort/work it represents. It should be punishable, even if it the punishment is minor, the least, the culprits should be "Cyber-punishable" to show that stealing ANYTHING is not tolerated regardless what it is.

I guess you can look at it as internet hacking is a crime and DOS attacking is too.

Re-Posted for opinions.

 

[h4xpl0x]

Should be punishable.

 

[TJ]

Should be punishable.

Do more for the thread than post that it should be punishable. Why do you think so?

 

[Petethemerch]

I probably have a slanted view on things but yes its directly stealing something from someone, as they try and con you out of the money aswell it makes things worse. I hope all scammers die tbh they dont deserve anything less.

 

[TJ]

I probably have a slanted view on things but yes its directly stealing something from someone, as they try and con you out of the money aswell it makes things worse. I hope all scammers die tbh they dont deserve anything less.

You are stealing pixels, from a pixelated place. Which, is from a company that can generate more easily. Therefor, its at no loss.

Death to scammers? That's cruel.

 

[The Riddler_]

You are stealing pixels, from a pixelated place. Which, is from a company that can generate more easily. Therefor, its at no loss.

Death to scammers? That's cruel.

If you lose the item JaGex will not refund you, what are you talking about?

The main reason people scam is because the think they can easily not get caught. We need too end that thought.

 

[TJ]

If you lose the item JaGex will not refund you, what are you talking about?

Which, is from a company that can generate more easily.

Exactly what i said, the company is at no loss so why should they care?

The main reason people scam is because the think they can easily not get caught. We need too end that thought.

Or because its so easy with all the dumbass's that fall for it.

 

[TJ]

I voted no because I had piracy in mind.

So you don't read threads that you post/vote on? Pathetic.

 

[Jesse]

Virtual goods should be worthless imo.

 

[Grave]

Yes, but doing so breaks the ToS of the site. Not punishable by law, but still punishable by game. Tangible goods only exist.

It depends on how the theft takes place though. If it involves money, yes; but let's say it's just because they got scammed, then no, that's their fault for being stupid.

 

[TJ]

It depends on how the theft takes place though. If it involves money, yes; but let's say it's just because they got scammed, then no, that's their fault for being stupid.

So why should you profit economically from a creators game?

 

[The Riddler_]

So why should you profit economically from a creators game?

Why do people profit from using Ebay?