[Resolved]

[godman123]

Profile link's:
Carbon
King Krab




Explanation of what happened:
A few months ago carbon had bought an account off of a friend of mine (rsn = Depute). Carbon had used this account to Bot Staking on. Sadly my friend had recovered the account off of carbon. This was in no way my fault and i couldn't of stopped it as i had nothing to do with the trade at all.
Carbon had then started tweeting pictures of the Account which he had gotten recovered for on twitter with the bot client clearly in display trying to get the account banned, hence why he tags in Jagex Weath.
Proof:
Carbon on Twitter

My friend proceeded to then try and sell the account to multiple people, but being a staker myself i decided to buy it as it was very cheap. After a few months of training it up i finally was able to stake on it.


After logging in to the arena for the first time on it, a few spammers had arrived.
[Sensitive Information] (staff check edit if needed) (Obviously Carbon or King-Krab)

King-Krab then decided to tweet out a picture on deliberate trying to get the account banned (Just like Carbon did)

https://i.gyazo.com/8088344af5204d65af8a2ef372c22435.png

https://i.gyazo.com/d63615ea6dd3062cf1dc0e1e63d0e62d.png

^ King-Krab had tweeted this picture and blocked out 1 RSN knowing that every other account was banned except from 'Depute'. King-Krab's intention was to show that Depute had been used for 'Bot Staking' and to try and get it banned this way as it would (It did) receive a lot of attention.



I shouldn't be getting tweeted for another players actions. I was in no way affiliated with the scam between Carbon and my friend.

 

[Carbon]

This proof has already been cleared up with @Panda about providing ownership of the account. We initially bought this account and it was recovered off of us. If you have any questions just hit my line family. Carbon #0760

 

@godman123 First of all, why would you buy an account that you knew had already been recovered once? Secondly, can you provide proof of the transaction between you and "your friend" where you bought the account back off of him?

 

You are forgetting key elements to the story.

First off, the account was banned. I proceeded to contact the owner with some information on how to unban and what he needs to do. He agreed, we said we'd give him some cash to make up for his troubles. Wealth from the accounts that are banned are not removed, and we had a hefty amount of gp on there. It was unbanned for 3 days without him even trying to make an effort to contact me. He had logged into it aswell and removed the wealth. (Accounts that are unbanned will not show up on the hiscores until they are logged in again).

We knew exactly how much was on there, and he told us that it was only 10% of what we thought, that we "added an extra 0". We offered to give him the account back if he returned our gold, he declined and insisted on us taking the account. This is where things got sketchy because if he is willing to lie to us about the gold that was on it, why wouldn't he recover it again? This is where you come in - you could have easily said that you would buy the account off us for the same asking price, but instead you waited and kept low-key and bought the account. Then you asked Carbon to remove the tweet. The account is not yours, the account was purchased and stolen from us along with the gp on it. This is our account, you're just staking on stolen goods and you know it.

 

Profile link's:
Carbon
King Krab

King-Krab then decided to tweet out a picture on deliberate trying to get the account banned (Just like Carbon did)

https://i.gyazo.com/8088344af5204d65af8a2ef372c22435.png

https://i.gyazo.com/d63615ea6dd3062cf1dc0e1e63d0e62d.png

^ King-Krab had tweeted this picture and blocked out 1 RSN knowing that every other account was banned except from 'Depute'. King-Krab's intention was to show that Depute had been used for 'Bot Staking' and to try and get it banned this way as it would (It did) receive a lot of attention.


I shouldn't be getting tweeted for another players actions. I was in no way affiliated with the scam between Carbon and my friend.

Also these weren't my intentions - we were reminiscing on old gyazos. Some of our bot farm came up and I asked our programmer is it cool if we leak it now that we're not in business anymore. He gave me the green light and I blocked out an account that someone purchased off me. You act like I'm coming after you. You weren't banned in my teamspeak, you just left because you knew you did us dirty. Bottom line is that is not your property, it is ours.

W302 Tables when you're ready to pay for your stolen property Aiden

 

[godman123]

@godman123 First of all, why would you buy an account that you knew had already been recovered once? Secondly, can you provide proof of the transaction between you and "your friend" where you bought the account back off of him?

I had no idea my friend had sold them the account until Carbon mentioned it to me. The trade was done between Carbon and 'Depute' alone (No one vouched + they don't even know each other much). The only reason they trusted the original owner of depute is because @King-krabs IRL brother is in the same pking clan as me and depute, evidently that wasn't enough to stop him from scamming him. I however have known the original owner for 3+ years and trust him completely.

I had bought this account over Teamspeak with BTC.
Carbon tweeted the picture out on 2nd of October (https://i.gyazo.com/39bac1cbf967c4ca727a0bf0f64c1b7a.png)

I had gotten the Email change on the 6th of October at 02:23 am (https://i.gyazo.com/843338fba972dffbf182e222fb720590.png)
I had then sent BTC to 'Depute' at 02:30am
https://i.gyazo.com/de7e7c3b299db154ed776afc6afc28a4.png

This is me logging into the account. Match the email with the bot clients emails at the top left. https://i.gyazo.com/974750ab3f5b4ee7c734d1fe6dbc9a8b.gif

 

[godman123]

Also these weren't my intentions - we were reminiscing on old gyazos. Some of our bot farm came up and I asked our programmer is it cool if we leak it now that we're not in business anymore. He gave me the green light and I blocked out an account that someone purchased off me. You act like I'm coming after you. You weren't banned in my teamspeak, you just left because you knew you did us dirty. Bottom line is that is not your property, it is ours.

W302 Tables when you're ready to pay for your stolen property Aiden

Everyone can clearly see what you and Carbon tried doing. I think you're also forgetting i had nothing to do with the recovery of the account, i don't owe you anything. 'Depute' owes you money.

 

@godman123 Unless you can properly prove you bought the account from the OO, then there's an infinite possibilities such as you're the OOs friend (which you've openly admitted) and you're trying to get Carbon/Krab in trouble for these claims. Or the owner wants them to stop tweeting about his account.

 

[godman123]

@godman123 Unless you can properly prove you bought the account from the OO, then there's an infinite possibilities such as you're the OOs friend (which you've openly admitted) and you're trying to get Carbon/Krab in trouble for these claims. Or the owner wants them to stop tweeting about his account.

I had bought this account over Teamspeak with BTC.
Carbon tweeted the picture out on 2nd of October (https://i.gyazo.com/39bac1cbf967c4ca727a0bf0f64c1b7a.png)

I had gotten the Email change on the 6th of October at 02:23 am (https://i.gyazo.com/843338fba972dffbf182e222fb720590.png)
I had then sent BTC to 'Depute' at 02:30am
https://i.gyazo.com/de7e7c3b299db154ed776afc6afc28a4.png

This is me logging into the account. Match the email with the bot clients emails at the top left. https://i.gyazo.com/974750ab3f5b4ee7c734d1fe6dbc9a8b.gif

 

@godman123 Unless you can provide proper proof as I said above, there's nothing I can do as you could be very well be the owner of the account who is trying to get Carbon/Krab in trouble as I said above.

 

[godman123]

@godman123 Unless you can provide proper proof as I said above, there's nothing I can do as you could be very well be the owner of the account who is trying to get Carbon/Krab in trouble as I said above.

I have no concrete proof as it was just a trade between friends over teamspeak, no need to log things or save evidence incase something goes bad as we trust eachother enough not to need that. But in King Krabs previous post he clearly indicates that I am not the original owner trying to get them to stop tweeting 'my' account, but instead I purchased it after they had been scammed (which I had zero involvement with).

 

[godman123]

I have no concrete proof as it was just a trade between friends over teamspeak, no need to log things or save evidence incase something goes bad as we trust eachother enough not to need that. But in King Krabs previous post he clearly indicates that I am not the original owner trying to get them to stop tweeting 'my' account, but instead I purchased it after they had been scammed (which I had zero involvement with).

The above post im referring to: "This is where you come in - you could have easily said that you would buy the account off us for the same asking price, but instead you waited and kept low-key and bought the account. Then you asked Carbon to remove the tweet. The account is not yours, the account was purchased and stolen from us along with the gp on it. This is our account, you're just staking on stolen goods and you know it."

^ Admits i'm not the OO.

 

[Carbon]

The above post im referring to: "This is where you come in - you could have easily said that you would buy the account off us for the same asking price, but instead you waited and kept low-key and bought the account. Then you asked Carbon to remove the tweet. The account is not yours, the account was purchased and stolen from us along with the gp on it. This is our account, you're just staking on stolen goods and you know it."

^ Admits i'm not the OO.

Enlighten all of us, what does you not being the original owner have to do with any of this?

 

[Dorkinator]

Hey, other owner of the account here. I'm not sure if it works differently on Sythe, but if some one steals my car for example and sells it to some one the onus of this transaction is between the buyer and the criminal. The ownership of the car doesn't magically transfer to the new buyer just because it got stolen and resold. Ergo Crab is tweeting an account that he still owns and AFAIK self sabotage isn't against the rules.

 

[godman123]

Hey, other owner of the account here. I'm not sure if it works differently on Sythe, but if some one steals my car for example and sells it to some one the onus of this transaction is between the buyer and the criminal. The ownership of the car doesn't magically transfer to the new buyer just because it got stolen and resold. Ergo Crab is tweeting an account that he still owns and AFAIK self sabotage isn't against the rules.

I didn't ask for a bunch of Crab's friends to come and help out in this report. This is between me, Carbon and King-Krab. Thank you.

 

@Dorkinator
Sythe.org works differently, as explained here:

 

[godman123]

Enlighten all of us, what does you not being the original owner have to do with any of this?

This is what me not being the original owner has to do with this. Chloe is concerned that I could possibly be the original owner of the account trying to get the two of you in trouble, but thanks to King Krabs comment this proves I'm not. So thanks for that.

Between the email change date, the bitcoin transaction I sent at the same time and the fact you guys even agree I bought the account (and am infact not the OO) I think this should be enough for the report to continue.

 

[Carbon]

@godman123 Unless you can properly prove you bought the account from the OO, then there's an infinite possibilities such as you're the OOs friend (which you've openly admitted) and you're trying to get Carbon/Krab in trouble for these claims. Or the owner wants them to stop tweeting about his account.

This is what me not being the original owner has to do with this. Chloe is concerned that I could possibly be the original owner of the account trying to get the two of you in trouble, but thanks to King Krabs comment this proves I'm not. So thanks for that.

Between the email change date, the bitcoin transaction I sent at the same time and the fact you guys even agree I bought the account (and am infact not the OO) I think this should be enough for the report to continue.

Chloe never said that you are the original owner, and you brought no light to the situation. Therefore the scam report should be closed.

@Dorkinator
Sythe.org works differently, as explained here:

You have no chat logs to show that you have purchased the account. The BTC transaction was for "$200" which could've been to any person and not specifically to the original owner of Depute. Also, the email change on the website is not valid proof, and you would need to be teamviewed by a mod as you could have used inspect element on any aspect of the picture.

Edit: When I tweeted the picture of my account which was on the 2nd and you claimed the account on the 6th. The account was still in my possession, and have the right to do whatever I want

 

[Dorkinator]

@Dorkinator
Sythe.org works differently, as explained here:

I don't think that scenario is accurate. What happened apparently is that Depute sold to crab, Depute scammed crab, Depute resold to godman123. Your scenario describes A selling to B who then sells to C. I don't think it applies to this context because A sold to B then sold to C after the fact after scamming B.

 

[godman123]

Chloe never said that you are the original owner, and you brought no light to the situation. Therefore the scam report should be closed.



You have no chat logs to show that you have purchased the account. The BTC transaction was for "$200" which could've been to any person and not specifically to the original owner of Depute. Also, the email change on the website is not valid proof, and you would need to be teamviewed by a mod as you could have used inspect element on any aspect of the picture.

Edit: When I tweeted the picture of my account which was on the 2nd and you claimed the account on the 6th. The account was still in my possession, and have the right to do whatever I want

I am happy to Screen share with a Moderator.

May i also ask why would you tweet yourself if you still 'owned the account and was staking on it'?

P.S Stop lying to yourself, it doesn't help!