Runescape Skilling/Questing Services Suggestion

Will make this quick and to the point.

To be able to do Firecape services, you must have 1 picture of proof for a fire cape and then must continually have 5+ pictures of proof.

Something should be done the same with Skilling/Questing. I get they're 2 different services and Capes are harder to do, but it might help avoid the scams you always see from the newcomers trying to 'get vouches'.

Suggestion: Before being able to make a thread advertising your services, you must have completed 5+ orders to the respective section. (i.e. questing or skilling)

-Some orders are much larger than others so maybe 1 order is considered 5 quests or 5 skills done. Anything more is considered another order.

-A vouch may be needed or it may not due to some people not wanting to vouch or just forget to or whatever other reasons you can think of.

Yeah this will be more work for RS mods, but that's what they sign up for. If it's too much, get more mods.

This suggestion may just get shut down immediately or won't be seen as something needed from other members, but I see this as a simple way to cut the scams down you see from newcomers offering their services.

The order amount may be subject to change if 5 is too much or too less to deem worthy of a service thread.

Thanks for reading this over.

 

[Tyler]

No support.

People could argue that it takes skill to do the fight caves (because doing had is hard to some)

Anybody could click the same iron ore over and over again or follow a guide on YouTube for questing.

 

No support.

People could argue that it takes skill to do the fight caves (because doing had is hard to some)

Anybody could click the same iron ore over and over again or follow a guide on YouTube for questing.

I stated that in my OP.

It's not about what's easier and what's not, it's having credibility and cut down on scams from the countless skilling/questing free services.

It's about showing you're willing to work with others and produce a vouch to show you're here to actually complete services, not get a quick scam quit and repeat.

 

[Tyler]

I stated that in my OP.

It's not about what's easier and what's not, it's having credibility and cut down on scams from the countless skilling/questing free services.

It's about showing you're willing to work with others and produce a vouch to show you're here to actually complete services, not get a quick scam quit and repeat.

I know you stated it in your op, dosent change that its a bad suggestion because of that reason.


Other markets force users to meet a certain post count/join date requirement before opening up services like these. I'd be more open to that suggestion


Also with the exception of fire capes these proof can be easily faked (without vouches) because I can just screenshot myself getting 70 woodcutting on my own account and claim it was for another user.

 

I'm not understanding this clear.

How would they be able to acquire those proofs if they do not start their own thread?

 

I know you stated it in your op, dosent change that its a bad suggestion because of that reason.


Other markets force users to meet a certain post count/join date requirement before opening up services like these. I'd be more open to that suggestion


Also with the exception of fire capes these proof can be easily faked (without vouches) because I can just screenshot myself getting 70 woodcutting on my own account and claim it was for another user.

As I said in my OP, the requirements are subject to change. It was just an initial idea to get some brainstorming going.

A vouch is a requirement or something of the sort, as I stated in OP. Not just a picture of a completion like a firecape, for example. And I also stated that some people do not vouch or forget to. Please read what I post before just rambling about random stuff. Now don't get mad at me for saying that

I'm not understanding this clear.

How would they be able to acquire those proofs if they do not start their own thread?

Post or PM users that are asking for services.

I get this suggestion is far-fetched and probably not applicable, but I'm just trying to get some discussion and ideas brewing to how we can counter this problem.

 

[Tyler]

the requirements are subject to change. It was just an initial idea to get some brainstorming going.

Other markets force users to meet a certain post count/join date requirement before opening up services like these. I'd be more open to that suggestion

Included suggestion

A vouch is a requirement or something of the sort, as I stated in OP. Not just a picture of a completion like a firecape, for example. And I also stated that some people do not vouch or forget to.

Then what exactly are you suggesting? requirement to have vouches for skilling or just previous orders logged somehow?

Please read what I post before just rambling about random stuff. Now don't get mad at me for saying that

> I post a helpful suggestion other sites are using because you clearly dont know what you want to suggest in the op

> assumes I didn't read op.


Typical Barton

 

Other markets force users to meet a certain post count/join date requirement before opening up services like these. I'd be more open to that suggestion

Included suggestion




Then what exactly are you suggesting? requirement to have vouches for skilling or just previous orders logged somehow?




> I post a helpful suggestion other sites are using because you clearly dont know what you want to suggest in the op

> assumes I didn't read op.


Typical Barton

I'm not going to fall for your drama induced life that you love to have with other Sythe users

However, my OP states some sort of credibility is required to be able to start a thread/service. That much is there. As you have stated, being able to just post a screenshot of a level does not work. Something more is needed. That's where the opinions of everyone else comes in.

Thanks for insight, Bleushittle.

 

[Tyler]

I'm not going to fall for your drama induced life that you love to have with other Sythe users

Yeah resorting to name calling is much better, Sorry I forgot you haven't left grade school yet

However, my OP states some sort of credibility is required to be able to start a thread/service. That much is there.

My suggestion cuts down on people who start services to scam quit by forcing them to be community active for a certain amount of time, but it would also get denied to due sythe wanting a free market and the fact that we would get more users pointlessly spamming

As you have stated, being able to just post a screenshot of a level does not work.

Wait, so you think im mindlessly spamming? or contributing to the conversation? I dont think you can seem to make up your mind on this

Thanks for insight, Bleushittle.

10/10 expected.

 

[Houred]

It is a good initial idea, however I don't think that taking pics of the completed orders would work because like bleu said, they can be faked.

Some alternatives:
~Require x amount of vouches related to the service you are giving (Skilling/Questing)
~Require x amount of posts and x join date
~Require newcomers with no vouches related to the service to use a mm or omm when giving the service

 

It is a good initial idea, however I don't think that taking pics of the completed orders would work because like bleu said, they can be faked.

Some alternatives:
~Require x amount of vouches related to the service you are giving (Skilling/Questing)
~Require x amount of posts and x join date
~Require newcomers with no vouches related to the service to use a mm or omm when giving the service

I never once stated pictures. Bleu just put that as an obvious not option.

 

[Tyler]

~Require x amount of vouches related to the service you are giving (Skilling/Questing)

I think not allowing people to make threads would deter people from this website for their services, Like for example if a powerbot user wanted to give their services here. of course you have to assume offsite vouches arnt honored, as they arnt on sythe anyways

~Require x amount of posts and x join date

I'm more than open to this idea but richards free market

~Require newcomers with no vouches related to the service to use a mm or omm when giving the service

This would be very very hard to moderate / keep track of.

 

Too much of a market restriction. Anyone can skill or quest; the desired variable is the speed/efficiency which can't be measured in a proof. Not everyone can get a firecape or kilncape.

 

Too much of a market restriction. Anyone can skill or quest; the desired variable is the speed/efficiency which can't be measured in a proof. Not everyone can get a firecape or kilncape.

Indeed. But where do you cross the line of how many scammers can get away with a simple scam quit via skilling/questing. Something needs done to help with the problem.

 

[Tyler]

Indeed. But where do you cross the line of how many scammers can get away with a simple scam quit via skilling/questing. Something needs done to help with the problem.

Its to to individuals on who they trust with what, I'd suggest more of educating people who they let on their account with what items and the risks of doing so.



Maybe a sticky in the appropriate section.

 

Trust me here. If you learn anything about this site or this kind of site be it this: No matter how many restrictions, systems and requirements you implement to the market - people will get scammed. Even people who meet those requirements you posted will scam. The problem is not stopping scammers, because you can't stop scammers, ever, period. The problem is people not trading safely. And you can't force that, only pity it, and in some cases educate it a wee bit

 

Trust me here. If you learn anything about this site or this kind of site be it this: No matter how many restrictions, systems and requirements you implement to the market - people will get scammed. Even people who meet those requirements you posted will scam. The problem is not stopping scammers, because you can't stop scammers, ever, period. The problem is people not trading safely. And you can't force that, only pity it, and in some cases educate it a wee bit

You can't remove scamming but you can decrease it in ways such as restrictions.

You're a smart guy Roary. Look at it like this. Most high leveled jobs require degrees, certification, and other such requirements. I think that should be the case here. A requirement should be needed. If you already put one on fire capes, why not put on other services? I get the skill level and such, but still.

Then you can argue it's up to the customer to choose who they trust, but 70+% of the times they're going to go to the cheaper person than the one that has proven themselves. It's just the way it works.

 

[IkovGPBuyer123]

Honestly, it's down to the user themselves to trust who is legit, if they're fooled into something that's too good to be true they're inevitably going to get scammed somehow.

And may I ask how people get scammed if they have a bank pin on and a MM is used? If the user pays a deposit to the MM then generally there's a lower chance of anyone getting scammed.

So maybe for people >5 vouches make them pay a deposit of $30 equivalent.
I know some people don't have $30, but without this deposit put in place for new comers opening skilling threads this is bound to happen.

I sort of support you mate.

 

[IkovGPBuyer123]

Trust me here. If you learn anything about this site or this kind of site be it this: No matter how many restrictions, systems and requirements you implement to the market - people will get scammed. Even people who meet those requirements you posted will scam. The problem is not stopping scammers, because you can't stop scammers, ever, period. The problem is people not trading safely. And you can't force that, only pity it, and in some cases educate it a wee bit

I agree, look at the $200 donor Bus369 who was banned recently.
He ban evaded and used fake vouches, and most people would say he's 'legit', but clearly if he ban evaded he's not legit at all.

Scams are always going to occur, people are money greedy and feel it's right to steal off other users, when that's immature and careless.

There's no way you can stop scams 100% but you can mitigate them by implementing a deposit system.

 

Honestly, it's down to the user themselves to trust who is legit, if they're fooled into something that's too good to be true they're inevitably going to get scammed somehow.

And may I ask how people get scammed if they have a bank pin on and a MM is used? If the user pays a deposit to the MM then generally there's a lower chance of anyone getting scammed.

So maybe for people >5 vouches make them pay a deposit of $30 equivalent.
I know some people don't have $30, but without this deposit put in place for new comers opening skilling threads this is bound to happen.

I sort of support you mate.

I don't see a deposit tbh. That's too tough to enforce.

You're all correct in saying that you can't take scamming away. But I think have requirements for services will cut down on users just coming in and doing what they're currently doing. That is scamming immediately.

I donno, this suggestion is tough but I feel something needs implemented.