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u sure its real?
BBC World Trade Center 7 Video
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Yes, it's definitely real....
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Theres a CNN one with a timestamp on it where they do the same thing if anyone is interested.
I'm interested in seeing the one with a timestamp as well. Can you please link me to it? I can't seem to find it.
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Perhaps there wasn't a CNN one (maybe I misread.)
There is however another BBC one with a timestamp:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/280207timestamp.htm
Edit:
No the CNN one exists too:
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=20521
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..... phaeothon.. what is this australia doesnt exist theory?
im sitting here now, and to the topic, why would any1 make a fake video showing these facts and the *strange* cut off when bbc realised they accidently realeased the feed to early.. its interesting.
ive also heard there was no plane wreckage at the pentagon crash!
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Don't bother. He’s a denialist. He has to believe the media hyper-reality in order to survive. If you take it away from him he'll probably curl up into a ball and have a year long seizure.
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tbh it makes me sick. my aunt was in there wen it happened
All the more reason you should want to get back at the people who really did it.
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True that darby..... Community members of sythe, our community as a whole is like a peanut- butter and banana sandwich. The two slices of bread are our community, the peanut butter represents the Democratic members and the Jelly the Republican, banana slice people are independent or just don't care about what goes on in the world or Off-topic forum. I am 14, and my parents have no political favor, they don't vote because they don't care as long as someone is in power, they watch the LOCAL news, and read the community section in the newspaper, they have not influenced me to be a Republican or Democrat. But the truth is, we will always be fighting for something, oil, water, gold, whatever. Would you of rather had the president launch an all out attack on the Iraq for no specific reason except for oil? Because this is what its going to come to whether you like it or not. Soon we will not require 9/11's, there will just be war. All of you who wine about 9/11 being a conspiracy should take a look at the way you live. The war in Iraq is being fought for you. Do you drive a car? If you do then you are using oil from somewhere on this earth, maybe its from Iraq? You don't know. Do your parents drive a car? I bet they do. They are using oil. Our country obviously needs this precious liquid. Because we are fighting for it now. I want you to read this. I know this man's father, Dave Jeffers, in Navarre, Florida. He is an American soldier currently on his second round in Iraq, this letter sent home to his father here in Florida has been mentioned on news stations and The O' Reily factor.
stare out into the darkness from my post, and I watch the city burn to the ground. I smell the familiar smells, I walk through the familiar rubble, and I look at the frightened faces that watch me pass down the streets of their neighborhoods. My nerves hardly rest; my hands are steady on a device that has been given to me from my government for the purpose of taking the lives of others.
I sweat, and I am tired. My back aches from the loads I carry. Young American boys look to me to direct them in a manner that will someday allow them to see their families again...and yet, I too, am just a boy....my age not but a few years more than that of the ones I lead. I am stressed, I am scared, and I am paranoid...because death is everywhere. It waits for me, it calls to me from around street corners and windows, and it is always there.
There are the demons that follow me, and tempt me into thoughts and actions that are not my own...but that are necessary for survival. I've made compromises with my humanity. And I am not alone in this. Miles from me are my brethren in this world, who walk in the same streets...who feel the same things, whether they admit to it or not.
And to think, I volunteered for this...
And I am ignorant to the rest of the world...or so I thought.
But even thousands of miles away, in Ramadi, Iraq, the cries and screams and complaints of the ungrateful reach me. In a year, I will be thrust back into society from a life and mentality that doesn't fit your average man. And then, I will be alone. And then, I will walk down the streets of America, and see the yellow ribbon stickers on the cars of the same people who compare our President to Hitler.
I will watch the television and watch the Cindy Sheehans, and the Al Frankens, and the rest of the ignorant sheep of America spout off their mouths about a subject they know nothing about. It is their right, however, and it is a right that is defended by hundreds of thousands of boys and girls scattered across the world, far from home. I use the word boys and girls, because that's what they are. In the Army, the average age of the infantryman is nineteen years old. The average rank of soldiers killed in action is Private First Class.
People like Cindy Sheehan are ignorant. Not just to this war, but to the results of their idiotic ramblings, or at least I hope they are. They don't realize its effects on this war. In this war, there are no Geneva Conventions, no cease fires. Medics and Chaplains are not spared from the enemy's brutality because it's against the rules. I can only imagine the horrors a military Chaplain would experience at the hands of the enemy. The enemy slinks in the shadows and fights a coward’s war against us. It is effective though, as many men and women have died since the start of this war. And the memory of their service to America is tainted by the inconsiderate remarks on our nation's news outlets. And every day, the enemy changes...only now, the enemy is becoming something new. The enemy is transitioning from the Muslim extremists to Americans. The enemy is becoming the very people whom we defend with our lives. And they do not realize it. But in denouncing our actions, denouncing our leaders, denouncing the war we live and fight, they are isolating the military from society...and they are becoming our enemy.
Democrats and peace activists like to toss the word "quagmire" around and compare this war to Vietnam. In a way they are right, this war is becoming like Vietnam. Not the actual war, but in the isolation of country and military. America is not a nation at war; they are a nation with its military at war. Like it or not, we are here, some of us for our second, or third times; some even for their fourth and so on. Americans are so concerned now with politics, that it is interfering with our war.
Terrorists cut the heads off of American citizens on the internet...and there is no outrage, but an American soldier kills an Iraqi in the midst of battle, and there are investigations, and sometimes soldiers are even jailed...for doing their job.
It is absolutely sickening to me to think our country has come to this. Why are we so obsessed with the bad news? Why will people stop at nothing to be against this war, no matter how much evidence of the good we've done is thrown in their face? When is the last time CNN or MSNBC or CBS reported the opening of schools and hospitals in Iraq? Or the leaders of terror cells being detained or killed? It's all happening, but people will not let up their hatred of President Bush. They will ignore the good news, because it just might show people that Bush was right.
America has lost its will to fight. It has lost its will to defend what is right and just in the world. The crazy thing of it all is that the American people have not even been asked to sacrifice a single thing. It’s not like World War II, where people rationed food and turned in cars to be made into metal for tanks. The American people have not been asked to sacrifice anything. Unless you are in the military or the family member of a servicemember, its life as usual...the war doesn't affect you.
But it affects us. And when it is over and the troops come home and they try to piece together what's left of them after their service...where will the detractors be then? Where will the Cindy Sheehans be to comfort and talk to soldiers and help them sort out the last couple years of their lives, most of which have been spent dodging death and wading through the deaths of their friends? They will be where they always are, somewhere far away, where the horrors of the world can't touch them. Somewhere where they can complain about things they will never experience in their lifetime; things that the young men and women of America have willingly taken upon their shoulders.
We are the hope of the Iraqi people. They want what everyone else wants in life: safety, security, somewhere to call home. They want a country that is safe to raise their children in. Not a place where their children will be abducted, raped and murdered if they do not comply with the terrorists demands. They want to live on, rebuild and prosper. And America has given them the opportunity, but only if we stay true to the cause and see it to its end. But the country must unite in this endeavor...we cannot place the burden on our military alone. We must all stand up and fight, whether in uniform or not. And supporting us is more than sticking yellow ribbon stickers on your cars. It's supporting our President, our troops and our cause.
Right now, the burden is all on the American soldiers. Right now, hope rides alone. But it can change, it must change. Because there is only failure and darkness ahead for us as a country, as a people, if it doesn't.
Let's stop all the political nonsense, let's stop all the bickering, let's stop all the bad news and let's stand and fight!
Isn't that what America is about anyway?
Sergeant Eddie Jeffers is a US Army Infantryman serving in Ramadi, Iraq.
Contact Sgt. Jeffers
Now take a minute to think, because even though 6 years ago thousands died in a supposed conspiracy plotted by the U.S, where no actual physical evidence exists, there are hundreds of thousands of our sisters, brothers,fathers, sons, daughters, nieces, nephews, mothers, aunts, and uncles fighting for our country. These soldiers fight for our country and not for their political views, if this is what our warriors of the USA are like then the citizens of the United States of America should follow.
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you just implied that we should support the war in iraq because it's being done for us, and it benefits us.
idiotic. of course, it benefits us, but it's really being done to support the us government and the oil industry, and to supply america with the oil that it really needs. is this justified? "hey, we need oil, so we'll invade you! yes, it's justified, because there are fringe benefits to the american people".
clearly, a case of a person who has too much free time, and has been brainwashed by the republican government.
add shredder on msn, check my sig, and he"ll tell you why you're wrong in every point you make.
idiotic. of course, it benefits us, but it's really being done to support the us government and the oil industry, and to supply america with the oil that it really needs. is this justified? "hey, we need oil, so we'll invade you! yes, it's justified, because there are fringe benefits to the american people".
clearly, a case of a person who has too much free time, and has been brainwashed by the republican government.
add shredder on msn, check my sig, and he"ll tell you why you're wrong in every point you make.
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we have a conspiracy theory about this bcuz the stocks went down over 500 points man...
a lot of people died...
and ooh one more thing.. after a lot of investigating, things dont add up
did u know that the mayor or governor or some1 was supposed to take shelter in the twin towers durnig the attack
he instead went to a diffrent place for safety.. accident?-- i doubt it
and the building fell straight down.. explosives pl0x?...
Thanks for the links, my dad wanted to see one with a timestamp because he didn't believe me, now maybe he will
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Anyone who thinks they personally gain from the Iraq war, unless they own an oil company or an arms factory, is gravely mistaken. Check the price of fuel. How is it compared with pre 2000 prices? At least twice as much? More?
Is this because the region is more unstable? Is it because we are running out oil? Is it because oil is harder to come by? Is it because oil is harder to transport?
Let me let you in on a little secret. The middle east is *more* stable for oil than it was in the past, the world is most certainly *not* running out of oil, if anything its easier to come by, and technology doubles every 18 months so its only getting easier to transport.
So put into perspective the oil companies just jack up the prices whenever they have an excuse. The current excuse is the war in Iraq. Now ask yourself again, how does this war benefit you?
Is this because the region is more unstable? Is it because we are running out oil? Is it because oil is harder to come by? Is it because oil is harder to transport?
Let me let you in on a little secret. The middle east is *more* stable for oil than it was in the past, the world is most certainly *not* running out of oil, if anything its easier to come by, and technology doubles every 18 months so its only getting easier to transport.
So put into perspective the oil companies just jack up the prices whenever they have an excuse. The current excuse is the war in Iraq. Now ask yourself again, how does this war benefit you?
The BBC one is obviously scripted, but I'm not so sure about the CNN one. Even though you can see the building in the background and the guy says "Has either collapsed or is collapsing" (which does seem a little odd), the subtext under the footage while he's saying that says "Building 7 at World Trade Ctr. on fire. May collapse." I'm thinking the CNN reporter might have got his words mixed up on that one. However, as I said earlier, the BBC one looks scripted. The fishy thing is, what made CNN think that particular building would collapse?
Edit: I Wanna See The Vids!
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He's right, I remember that before war was started fuel was about $1.50 and now its about $2.90, btw I live in phoenix az.
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elsamurai, exactly. This is called the peak oil scam.
The oil companies pay off the media to spread totally untrue stories of shortages of oil and rumours that Iraq is completely over oil because 'we are running out'. Iraq is partially over oil, but not because we are running out, because having control of it means the US consolidates its monopoly on most of the worlds oil. This means a small group of companies like Exxon, BP, and Shell can ramp up the prices of petrol all over the world, essentially doubling their trillion dollar a year revenue by providing less, not more.
Oil and coal runs the world. Soon uranium will run the world. You watch, every form of viable energy will be taxed and essentially owned by the neoconservatives. They understand that whoever controls the energy has power.
The oil companies pay off the media to spread totally untrue stories of shortages of oil and rumours that Iraq is completely over oil because 'we are running out'. Iraq is partially over oil, but not because we are running out, because having control of it means the US consolidates its monopoly on most of the worlds oil. This means a small group of companies like Exxon, BP, and Shell can ramp up the prices of petrol all over the world, essentially doubling their trillion dollar a year revenue by providing less, not more.
Oil and coal runs the world. Soon uranium will run the world. You watch, every form of viable energy will be taxed and essentially owned by the neoconservatives. They understand that whoever controls the energy has power.
at first i didint believe it but the more i read about it the conspiracy fits everything. the war in iraq everything seems linked. not to mention all the evidence thats been found and what not the goverment not even trying to investigate anything. they have all this proof posted and yet everyone still denies the conspiracy. get your head out ur ass people! i mean all the proof that this is an inside job is shown and yet the goverment has not yet even responded to this. they have not given us any info to lead us to believe that this was not an inside job.
personally i think it was and the goverment is keeping it secret for 2 reasons:
1) they may already know it is an inside job and are trying to find the culprits
2) 2 many ppl are corrupted in the goverment and those that arent were probably threatened to keep queit.
Remeber guys its the goverment they control about everything.
personally i think it was and the goverment is keeping it secret for 2 reasons:
1) they may already know it is an inside job and are trying to find the culprits
2) 2 many ppl are corrupted in the goverment and those that arent were probably threatened to keep queit.
Remeber guys its the goverment they control about everything.