Display of the Nazi Sign? Disgusting. (Sythe.org Jews attempt to lobby admin...)

Let me start off with a quote from Richard [Woahs His name isn't Sythe?!?]

"For the record the expression of socialism by members of this forum is equally disgusting to me as the Nazi (national socialist) iconography. However, by principle, I will not censor either opinions nor iconography. If you have a problem with someone's views and opinions then take it up with that person; don't take it up with the staff. We will not be lobbied by special interest groups."

Fact #1. The Nazi's aren't "national socialists", the political term is Nazism, which is derived from fascism.

#2. Opinions are great, keep them in Something for All or wherever your buddies are Richard, flaunting them all over the place is a sign that you agree with the ideals of the Nazi party.

#3. Who cares about socialists?

#4 "Special Interest" groups aka JEWISH PEOPLE?!?! I'm quite sorry, but if half your fucking family died in the holocaust, I think you too would be morally offended by the use of the Nazi Sign.

Fact #5. The Nazi sign is unique. It is derived from the Hindu sign, but it itself is unique. Have people use the Hindu symbol, not the Nazi one.

Fact #6. The use of the Nazi symbol is a way to be cool in this community, that should not be so. I'm confident that most of the people here don't actually like Nazi's, but are using the symbol to be cool.

Fact #7. TJ is a fucking idiot.

Fact #8. Even if it isn't illegal, blablabla, you should have at least decent enough morals not to put the Nazi sign as your avatar, to purposely offend people. Are you guys that much of attention whores?




PS: Hello!

 

A sign is incapable of being bad in itself.

It may represent something, and in this case it represents the Nazi party and government in Germany in the 30's and 40's.

As it has not committed any atrocities itself, why is it bad? The sign has not murdered six million Jews.

 

The nazi symbol is called a swastika.

 

My symbol was around before Hitler.

ehem, you call me an idiot, when i have not anything wrong? Get over yourself sir.

And for the whole, thinking we are bad for having a swastika then i could be really fucking sarcastic right now, if you would like. I love how i have had a swatika for my avatar since December, and just now being discussed.

 

Well, to first reply to Sythe's quote. Taking it up with the person is pointless, because you have no power over them nor they of you. So you can ask them to remove it, but the chances of them actually doing anything are very slim.

Second, Finniscool, you are very right, a sign in itself isn't capable of being bad. BUT, when that sign represents something bad, and people use that sign TO represent that something bad, it becomes bad.

If people actually had a reason to use the symbol, I wouldn't have anything against it, but it's people like TJ who do it simply because they can, which isn't right.

He has no reason do have that picture in his avatar or signature, just because it isn't against rules or illegal doesn't make it any more right or justifiable than something that is.

This will and always be a problem with the Sythe community, if TJ had some maturity he'd just take it out of his avatar and signature and move on, instead, he's making it a huge deal simply because he can which shows that he is immature.

 

Fin - Dorito Explains Nicely.
CyberDunk - Thanks for the info.
TJ - Dear, TJ, you are a nobody, therefore the only way people will notice your avatar is if you post. I have visited Sythe.org for the first time in 3 months and I see some crap about the swastika. I click the link and I see your post. After doing some research, I conclude that you are an attention-whore and a fucking dumbass.
Dorito - /wave

 

*waves back* XD

 

Hi Yakov.

Remember when you removed my swastika avatar?

 

Who gives a shit?

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^ I don't see how this can offend you. You'll face a lot of racism in the real life, not over the internet. Internet hate is nothing, seriously.

 

i think shredder is trying to say be peaceful...
i mean he bags hitler in his avatar...

 

Yes, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

 

Sombody forgot to Eat There gogie-berries.

 

I fully support you Yakov. The fact that it was not allowed back then, it should not be allowed now. You are NOT in the world, you are on the internet. This is a server, controlled by Richard, not freedom of speech. You don't have rights TJ. If you would have paid attention, you would know that. The mods can ban you when they feel, they can destroy you, deface you, do whatever the fuck they choose to.

You have no "right" to do so. And just because you are able to do so, does not mean you should.

The swastika to the mass majority is a sign of past pain and suffering. To many, seeing those signs makes them sick. New people coming to a website seeing that and getting offended will greatly drop the ratings, and even further more, the amount of money you make Richard.

I understand the joke, I understand the idea behind it. But it's gone on long enough, and it has gone too far.

The American Flag represents freedom, independance, and power. The Cross represents love, faith, and hope. The swastika represents death, moral decay, mass hysteria, and idiocy. The idea behind it should be simply enough to remove it.

And Shredder, before you go off on a tagent about what it "Really" means. Think about what you're going to say. Just because it REALLY means something, doesn't mean people accept it for that. The word "******" really means lazy person. Say it to a black person, and see what the fuck happens. Just because your terminology is correct, does not mean it is politically correct.

Remove the swastikas, because they are offensive, aggrivating, and the people who bear them have no real purpose for doing so.

Shredd's avatar is fine, but the displaying of a symbol that has caused many grief should not be allowed.

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E: I love how you filter the word Nigga spelt correctly, yet allow the swastikas?

 

Why not?

You would allow your ratings to die because of someone's individual belief? I say restricitions?

At least limit the allowed, or restrict users from doing so.

It's not so hard to stop all of the religious, idealogy on this forum.

Put your foot down, or you lose people. And don't act like you don't care, because the forum won't die, but this isn't a place to express "views". It's a runescape cheating/educational/programming site. If so, only allow swastikas to be displayed in a person's thread in something for all.

Why allow such idiocy to continue just because they are expressing their views.

Sure, you don't agree with it. But by allowing it, you are not stopping the creation of it.

Watching kiddie porn allows for those in the market to continue making such. However, protesting it, and not allowing it period, and not giving it market will stop most of those people from doing so.

You have control over this situation, and by allowing it to continue, you support the symbol, and therefore the idea.

It's simple as that.

 

I agree, I find it offensive even though I'm not Jewish.

If you think you are 'Cool' for having it in your signature, explain to us why it is so.

 

I don't understand why someone should or wants to wear natzi tag/logo anyways. It just shows how stupid someone is. even if you aren't natzi/racist, don't make other think you are..

 

Sorry, Deacon. You may no longer utter a word. Deacon, you've just been verbally raped by the owner.

 

So what happened to Sythe.org != freedom?

Allowing freedom of speech doesn't help the members brains grow, just the numbers. Yes, I understand the idea behind you allowing people to express views. However, the symbol of which we are disputing doesn't express a view, it just shows a sign. It's like having nudity, why cover that and not the latter?

You don't support it, you debate it, and you dispute it. But just like you did with that whole Zamorak.org signature thing, forbid it. You put restrictions on size, on rating, on several things, allowing this isn't that hard to stop.

Don't silence the people, if you feel that they should have the freedom, but don't allow them to continue with the filth for no reason?

And many people of this forum have been censored against their will, when it is done wil mal intent it is wrong, but even the media censors those in a free country. (no debating here, i'm stating what it's supposed to be like Richard, my belief on my country doesn't matter).

But the fact that they are speaking "freely", is purely bullshit. They're not "speaking out" they're not saying "Understand this symbol" and they aren't educating people properly. They don't have lines through them to show that the idea was wrong. They just paste them everywhere like idiots. We don't allow that, and we don't like that.

I see no reason to not stop it, even with your point of freedom.