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  1. Unread #1 - Oct 19, 2015 at 7:13 PM
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    Mardoude did not say anywhere that he wouldn't duo queue - however I am certain that the duo queue is responsible for lower LP gains as I had just previously won a game and gained +17.

    By duo queueing with a lower ranked player, it lowers the overall MMR of the match. It seems obvious that a d5 player would gain less lp from winning platinum 1 match than winning a d5 match.

    Finally my last point still stands from the other thread : I think it's unfair to arbitrarily set a price that my $35 would go towards 50lp (49 actually) when I had wanted 60. For a 1lp gain difference (as the booster states my average lp gain is 15, and if I had +16 gains then I would qualify for the $35 price for 60lp), proportionally the +15lp/+16lp difference should mean that I qualify for 56lp. I don't see where the seemingly random 49lp stop came from.
    I would have much preferred to pay 1 net win and finish up the boost with another booster (for example Radeon) who at the time was offering a price of $70 from d5 to d4 regardless of lp gains (barring anything extreme). It's unreasonable to automatically assume that I would want to accept the offer of $35 for 49lp without even consulting me first, when it was known right from the first win of the boost that my lp gains were supposedly too low.
     
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    Would you be fine wit Mardoude providing one more win on your account?
     
  5. Unread #3 - Oct 21, 2015 at 10:11 PM
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    Yes I would be okay with one net win, but that's not fair to him because my account is now in diamond 4 (got someone else to finish it up).
     
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    What do you suggest then?
     
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    I think a partial refund isn't too unreasonable to ask - completing 49lp instead of 60lp is only a $6.50 difference if my calculations are correct. Considering this is much less of a price than 1 net win in D5, it's the best solution I can think of.
     
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    Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I'll pass this on to another mod, and hopefully everything is sorted soon.
     
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    I think a refund is the best solution here.

    How much do you think the partial refund should be, and what do you base that off of?
     
  15. Unread #8 - Oct 28, 2015 at 8:26 PM
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    I'd like the partial refund to be $13. Let me explain my logic.


    I paid $35 for 60lp thinking that later I'd be paying another $35 to d4, finishing the boost (a total of $70).

    However, getting me to only 49lp, the cost of finishing up a 49lp to d4 boost was $48 from Mardoude (Other sellers who also offered $70 for the entire division, like Radeon, give a price of $55 for the 49lp to d4 boost). I have the screenshot here as proof in case you would like to see, but I'm sure he can confirm as well that he told me $48 would be the price for 49lp to d4.
    Basically, the point is that it is cheaper to buy a boost in bulk than in small chunks (as with most things), and stopping my boost halfway without telling me negated my ability to do so.
    I ended up getting the boost finished up by Radeon. However, since I could have gotten it finished by Mardoude, I use $48 here for argument's sake.
    As I could have gotten a full, 1 division boost for $70 from Radeon at the time (he recently raised his prices, but if you just look at the past edit of his thread/ask him personally, I'm sure you will see/he will tell you that the previous price for D5 to D4 was $70), instead I "paid" $83 to complete the division (again, I actually paid $90 but for the sake of respecting the offer that Mardoude gave me I use the number here as $83), due to negligence on Mardoude's part to tell me that I was getting low LP gains right from the first win on the account, no way my fault that he didn't tell me and I was forced to use his services to 49lp.

    So that's the reasoning behind my price - mods, where do you stand on this?
     
  17. Unread #9 - Oct 28, 2015 at 8:54 PM
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    He only needs to pay you for what he did not complete.

    35/60 = 0.5833333333

    49-60 = 11

    0.5833333333 x 11 = 6.4166666663

    I'll make it $6.50 for the trouble.
    He will need to refund you $6.50 for not completing the service.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Oct 28, 2015 at 9:10 PM
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    Sounds good, i'll update you when the refund is done
     
  21. Unread #11 - Oct 29, 2015 at 6:14 PM
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    Resolved - thanks so much Ghast/Sellerman for helping us out and Mardoude for refunding. :)
     
  23. Unread #12 - Oct 29, 2015 at 6:21 PM
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    Glad things worked out between you two.
     
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