"Transgender" = mentally ill

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/06/15145/

Personally, I agree with everything stated. Being "transgender" is indeed a mental illness, and should be treated as such, not appeased, as we've been seeing lately in the media with the "transgender" bathrooms.

 

Arguing otherwise would be silly in regards to labeling it as an illness. I don't think that's the problem here, it's the identification, or rather classification which makes this topic problematic to speak on. How would you classify a male turned female or vice versa? Do we go by the sex of the person, or do we consider gender to have any relevance in deciding whether the person in question gets to do this or that? We thus cross the path of humane vs inhumane as the discussion turns to what transgender people are able to do because of the clash in different opinions. Understandably, there are problems that comes with allowing transgender people to use which ever bathroom they want, and there comes problems with disallowing that same privilege. You're looking at this from a logical perspective, neglecting emotion and opposing viewpoints. I'm indifferent on this because it's not straightforward and going by what you think is right, could also be wrong depending on how you look at the situation.

 

The concept of "This bathroom is for penises, this bathroom is for vaginas" is toddler-level logic which doesn't have to be explained more than once.

Trans people attempt suicide at about 10 times the rate of the general populace. Pandering to their delusion (at the expense of everyone else's privacy) is not the way to treat their mental illness.

 

The problem here is simply looking at is a delusion, again looking at this from a logical perspective, neglecting emotion reduces the level of understanding that comes with dissecting complex situations. This isn't straightforward as a non-disabled person parking a car in a disabled persons lane because they think they're disabled as well. This is far more complex than you and many others make it out to be. If we regard a mind that opposes it's sex as an illness, and there are many cases which proves that theory to be true, then surely this isn't a hoax. I think the main concern here when it comes to allowing transgender people to use different bathrooms is the potential peeping or worse case scenario, sexual harassment by a non-transgender person. If we're being practical, someone who would go through those lengths will probably just go do that without pretending to be another gender. There are also other concerns regarding children, and honestly, I wouldn't let my child go to a public bathroom alone as it is currently, so I think we're just grasping at straws here. I'm still indifferent because of the complexity of the situation. I can see and understand the points on both sides, so I don't really care much for cementing a position that goes both ways as I'd just be contradicting myself.

 

Before taking McHugh's words as gospel you might want to actual read all the rebuttals. McHugh is by far the minority when it comes to the medical community and many of his claims have been debunked.

Here's just two articles, listing all the rebuttals...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/fighting-back-against-ant_b_5633450.html

http://www.transadvocate.com/clingi...of-transgender-medical-literature_n_13842.htm

I thought this was particularly informative:

http://crystalgaze2.blogspot.com/2009/02/debunking-dr-paul-mchugh.html

Not that i'm pro-transgender, but it's been proven to not be classified as a mental illness.

Anyway, i wouldn't want a transgender person in a bathroom with my son or daughter... They should have a transgender bathroom or something? (I'm aware that isn't logical or feasible)

 

Okay, how is the concept of "This bathroom is for penises, this bathroom is for vaginas" so complex?

 

Never seen a penis or vagina symbol on a bathroom door before. I've only seen male and female.

 

Are you familiar with the anatomies of male and female organisms?

 

Yes, although the images on the door typically reference gender since there isn't a sex symbol (♂/♀) on the door. Gender isn't a biological classification.

 

Male and Female are sex classifications.

 

To be "transgendered" implies a certain detachment from reality. A mental illness would be one way to put it certainly.

I'm not going to hate someone because of what they do with their own body, but I won't be going out of my way to facilitate their fantasies either.

 

Again, you're not understanding. Your gender can be female, and your sex can be male. The symbol on the door references gender, not sex.

 

Define gender objectively and explain why "female" on a bathroom door references that a person whose sex is male is meant to be there.

 

gen·der - the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

I'm just saying the symbol on the door references gender, not sex, hence why "gender bathroom rules" are associated with bathrooms.

 

The state of being male is having a penis. The state of being a female is having a vagina. This is culturally universal.

 

Source

 

Define Masculine and Feminine.

 

You must be joking. I'm not going to continually give you definitions that you can find yourself so you can prolong an unnecessary discussion to avoid 99% of the content I give you in a reply.

 

No: This is your argument-

-Male and Female bathrooms are not for Male sexed and Female sexed people
-Male and Female bathrooms are for people of Masculine and Feminine genders

How would I know if the person pissing in the urinal next to me is a Masculine gendered person or a Feminine gendered person? How would I know if I am a Masculine gendered person or a Feminine gendered person?

You haven't defined Masculine gender or Feminine gender, and that is REALLY necessary for your argument that bathrooms are supposed to be separated by gender.

 

No, I said the symbol on the door represents gender, not sex. Gender is a state of being a male or female.

State - the particular condition that someone or something is in at a specific time.

The sourced quote I gave was to show you the difference between gender and sex, because it seems you don't differentiate the two.

This is why your gender does not always correlate to your sex, or do you just not understand this?

Do you now want to know the definition of differentiate?