Y'all need some more mods

More mods may not necessarily be needed but it wouldn't hurt any. It would only mean more people are available to help and to do reports faster. In the aspect of pardons I feel like it lowers the chance of someone to get pardoned due to not as many people voting. But I don't think pardons should be there anyway. I feel like a support moderator should be there at least. Roary that's how you got your start so I am sure you understand the importance of it.

 

Support doesn't need a mod, myself and globals cover it extensively. I will always be a support mod at heart ;_;


@only75def, there will be gaps in presence no matter how many mods there are but I see what you're saying.

 

Alright, I've skimmed through most of the thread.

I agree, more/more active staff members are needed. I barely see any staff post, but that's mainly because I'm just in 3-4 sections, I hope.

Staff activity needs to be increased. For the most part, I assume they handle mod scores, and that's all. I believe on a previous thread, someone stated that is all that is expected of them.

Staff quota should be changed. It's bad when SF is the most active "community" section. I don't know much about mod scores though, so I won't chime in or suggest anything until I'm educated.

Also, Delta stated he's not gonna change for some position, which is good. But really, you changed for the worse. Also, there is a sense of professionalism that comes with a "job". You're just angry right now and should not be adding into the conversation.

I don't look at pardons often, either. But usually, there's one or two replies before it's closed. There should be a required amount of posters on a dispute before it's shut down, whether support or no support with given reason.

Ghast, sectionals can improve sections, given they have the right ideas and motivation. Getting a section from dead to active won't happen, though. If a section is dead, it's going to stay dead. Gaming section mod wasn't a good idea. Especially as he was never in the gaming section beforehand. This said though, there is a need for more moderators, or maybe just the current ones to actually step up. If they're too busy with real life things to do more then their quota, there is a need for more mods.

I know I missed some point but can't be bothered to skim through the thread again.

 

Okay well instead of letting us get away with it. Post on our feedback thread. All we get is blowjobs on our feedback threads so we think "damn I must be doing a jolly good job". If you want us to change in a certain way let us know and we'll do our best to comply ofcourse.

 

how exactly am i angry? i dint want to be mod lol? also its not a job, i'm not being paid, its not going on my record, i could care less how i act on a online forum.

 

I can't bother with feedback as I never see any of you. Roary sometimes in SFA, then the random SF posts if I'm bored enough to try and get a laugh from other mods.

You got paid in all the "brown-nosing", therefore, a job. A job doesn't mean you have to be paid in your currency, boy.

 

brown nosing? if anything the way i was promoted pissed people off, i betting you being one of them.

 

I don't even know how you were promoted. But enough of this, you still aren't contributing at all.

 

And what have you contributed besides donating?

I don't think anyone realizes the actual job of a sectional moderator. It's to MODERATE a specific forum. You definitely skimmed through the thread because you missed valid points that I brought up.

Can anyone name a sectional moderator who made a forum active for a significant amount of time? Hell, name a global.

 

I agree with all these points although I'm not aware of the N4N0 situation. A quota that needs to be matched isn't really contributing to the community at all, kind of like how a cop needs to meet a certain quota everyday. If they can't they end up pulling people over for miniscule reasons and people just get pissed off. Cops are required to do that because it brings revenue into the city, but on here that's not the reason and there really isn't a reason for it. Also if the community wants to actually grow, Sythe needs to stop operating like a bootcamp unless that's the intention. People come to the internet to relax, and all the unnecessary bans and rules just irritate people. Half the sections on Sythe should barely be moderated at all, there really only needs to be a handful of dedicated moderators that show they're capable of determining whether or not reported posts, bans, threads, etc are worthy of action, or if it should just be left alone.

 

Having more staff presence in the sections promotes other people to post as well. When a moderator is discussing a topic with a member it makes a big difference in the eyes of both the member and the community who is viewing the thread. At the moment there's only enough mods to keep dealing with spam and scam reports which explains the lack of posts by mods in most sections. The community can make a difference but without staff actively engaging in the discussion they are displaying what the role of staff actually becomes. A mod who actively posts in their section is a lot more beneficial than one which only deals with spam reports, the main problem is there's no way to reward those who actively post in their section. You stated there are some who aspire to become a moderator but to get noticed by staff they shouldn't have to constantly report posts, instead they should be actively engaged in the section which is a lot easier to monitor when an active moderator is involved in the discussion.

Having a function similar to locking spam reports could also help with mod activity such as awarding modlogs for each post the staff member makes in their designated section.

 

I'm saying to the thread, not the site in general. I'm new enough to the site, I can't say I've contributed, aside from donating, which was just because I could. Obviously you must be skimming too, if you're just jumping to conclusions.

Sure they are supposed to MODERATE a forum. They are also supposed to go above and beyond. Or else there'd be no need for sectionals. Globals could handle the moderation just the same. Revolutionary idea, isn't it?

 

Having more sectional mod presence makes others want to post more? How the hell does that make sense? Care to give an example of a specific timeframe in which this was the case?

They are not obligated to do anything other than their job. You're suggesting they should.

 

Just because someone is a moderator of a section doesn't mean they are an expert in the section.
Yes, some people like to follow Staff around and reply to their posts, but that is not an effective way to engage the community or to be noticed by the Staff.

Your suggestion doesn't provide a reason for the need for more Staff, but rather a change in the way current Staff perform their daily tasks.

 

As it is/should be expected of them. Just like in a real job, sure, you can sometimes pass by from only doing what's necessary, but you won't get anywhere just doing that.

 

I used to actively create threads in the market discussion about different aspects, I never had any problem having threads reach 2-3 pages.

http://www.sythe.org/technology/1358373-new-ipad.html
http://www.sythe.org/general-discussion/1319698-wikipedia-shut-down.html
http://www.sythe.org/gaming-general/1593768-candy-crush-saga.html
http://www.sythe.org/gaming-general/1145300-what-class-do-you-play-why.html
http://www.sythe.org/spam-forum/1225067-unofficial-awesome-sythe-steam-group-join-now.html

I can't go back far enough for most people but most threads which are posted by mods and have the symbol beside them usually get a lot more activity than other threads which promotes discussion in the section. Even if a thread can get 2 pages of posts that's still quite a few posts. Obviously it's not the end all solution to inactivity but having staff actively ontop of the section does help even if it's something they're posting that they recently read about or something that's interesting doesn't hurt.

You can also find similar threads to what I posted through a google search by members who posted them and didn't get nearly as many posts on theirs. Having an active mod in a section doesn't hurt activity, having a mod who solely handles reports as a tool doesn't help activity. If a mod feels they are on staff to do a job then there is obviously something wrong because being a moderator should be a joyful experience while being challenging somewhat which normally only occurs if the person is interested in more than just doing their "job" of handling spam reports. Obviously these aren't the best examples but I've seen threads reach 50-100 posts when they're something related to the section and having a moderator post it only promotes other people to post on it as well to get noticed.

Maybe we don't need more staff if they are currently able to reach they're quota and not have any reports to deal with that's cool then we obviously don't, but if you have a few mods constantly doubling the amount of reports handled than others then there's no reason not to promote more people. I've looked over Frenzy's last 200 posts and majority of them are spam report closes which obviously isn't right...

Having a moderator in a section they don't like or don't know much about is pretty stupid don't you think? A moderator who enjoys his section will be more likely to continue posting there than some guy who constantly reported posts to get noticed.

 

But as said previously, it's good to have the ones who do the reports, there needs to be people who focus on reports. But there does need to be an improvement on the ones who don't do so many reports being community active.

I've put a thread in SL about a pretty different idea that should help, we'll see how it goes.

 

I never said they don't know much about their section or don't like it. I stated they aren't an expert.

A moderator always has the choice to post, whether they like the section or not. It just comes down to whether the thread is interesting to the moderator or if there is any relevant information to be posted that hasn't already been. The community is able to answer the majority of questions being asked in the section, which explains the "inactivity" of Staff in a section. Just because Staff don't post in a section doesn't mean they don't actively view it.

Your comparison makes no sense. If someone is trying to get noticed, they will not only report more but post more as well. This relation has nothing to do with Staff posting, unless they post answers to all the questions in the section, making it pointless for a Staff member to post (no need for reiteration). Furthermore, this makes the person trying to get noticed to get noticed... but what's the point? What are you trying to prove?

People need to get noticed more and they should be promoted to Staff. Is this your argument as to why there needs to be more Staff?

 

Good lord.. There is a difference between raising activity and having users respond to a thread.

Edit: It does not matter if you're a mod or not, having users respond to topics about current events or trending news will come by itself.

 

I think a big problem is lack of motivation in the staff to want change. Many staff just ignore the fact that Sythe needs a change of command. The current staff system is to blame for the inactivity in non-market sections.