Worm's Dispute

Hello Sythe,

I was given a ban for the action of @Abundy

Abundy and I met about 4 months ago, I contacted him in regards to some issues with his site and wanted to provide my input in how it should look. After talking for a couple days we came to the conclusion on working together to grow Abundy. After many meetings, and weeks we realized that things were starting to take off and things were really looking up.

After about 2 months we decided to take on our first worker, who is known as @Cocoa

 

Hello Sythe,

I was given a ban for the action of @Abundy

Abundy and I met about 4 months ago, I contacted him in regards to some issues with his site and wanted to provide my input in how it should look. After talking for a couple days we came to the conclusion on working together to grow Abundy. After many meetings, and weeks we realized that things were starting to take off and things were really looking up.

After about 2 months we decided to take on our first worker, who is known as @Cocoa, everything was going really well. Cocao gave a $0 deposit upfront, but agreed to doing 50% pay, and 50% deposit upon being paid. Cocao had worked himself up to $500 deposit, which was our deposit we asked for.

About 3 weeks after we hire Cocao we decided to hire @Saranovic as well , whom had given a $100 up-front and then agreed to the same gig that we did with Cocao where it was 50/50 - Saranovic had also gotten up to the $500 we asked for.

About 2 months into business, there was a concert in Denver, where Abundy was located, and both Abundy and I decided to meet up and go to this concert. We used this time to meet eachother and ensure that business together would be beneficial for both of us. We talked business, talked about the future, and got to know eachother. I was only in Denver for 3 days, but in the time I THOUGHT he was a good person.

On October 13-15th, Abundy decided to go to Thailand where he had been before and had told me he was going to live there. Since that time, I had very little contact with him as his phone did not work, obviously, and he had little internet access. We didn't really need to talk much anyway since the PayPal was limited and we couldn't continue to do business.

On October 17th, I believe, the PayPal was limited due to Abundy not uploading legal documents that he had told me for months he had done. PayPal had given a 60-day notice to upload the document prior to the limit, and it did show as in-progress and appeared to all be in order. Abundy had told me several times that he spoke to PayPal and everything was in order, leading me to believe that all was well.

On October 25th, I called PayPal personally and had a pretty aggressive conversation with them regarding the situation Abundy was in, in thailand, unable to get any money because the paypal was limited, and that it was simply unfair since we gave them everything they wanted. I talked to Abundy that day and told him what I had done, and he said he has done the same thing several times to no success.

On October 27th I tried logging into the Email that we shared for the business, and the PayPal was registered under this email, I noticed that the password was changed. I immediately contacted him, but got no response. I did however see a snapchat on his story that day of him talking about Bitcoin, and it looked like he was home, and not in Thailand anymore. I had also mentioned this in the same message asking about the password change.

On October 29th I got a response from him , saying that he was back from Thailand. But that was all he said that day. I asked again about the Email but got no response.

On October 30th, Abundy had withdrawn ALL of the money from the PayPal to his bank account and did not contact me or talk to me about this at all. This had meant that the PayPal was ALSO not limited anymore.

On November 2nd, this is the day that I noticed the transaction mentioned above, and I also noticed that my PayPal permissions were completely revoked. I could log in and see transactions logs, but that was it. This was the same day I checked our Shopify accounts (website and payment processing) and noticed that my account was disabled. I also checked my Tawk accounts (livechat) and that was deleted as well. I immediately contacted him, SCREAMING at him (in snapchat) asking him how could he do this. How could he leave me high and dry, and how could he scam Saranovic and Cocao. Right after I contacted him, I noticed that he blocked me on Snapchat.

On November 4-5th, the Abundy Discord was LIT UP. People coming in FURIOUS about the site not up anymore, stating that they were scammed. Including one mutual friend of ours, Alec, who he had lived in the same apartment complex. Alec was supposed to go to thailand with him, however ended up not going and had given Abundy the money to go, but never went. Alec never got refunded the money he had given to Grant. Things on the Discord got pretty crazy, they were talking about breaking into Grant's apartment and raiding it, which from what they said it sounded like that happened and they started posting his personal information in the Discord. After I saw this, I immediantly banned everyone on the Discord and shut it down. While he scammed, it's not something that should ever be done.

My label as "Co-owner" to Abundy was self-given to help with the issues where people would not trust me when doing business over skype, they said they wanted a PM from Abundy himself because I was not trusted enough. Even when meeting them on the livechat, or anything else. They simply ONLY wanted to talk to Abundy. I was okay with this, however there were times were he was gone for the entire day and stock was hard to find and I had customers waited so I occasionally pushed to get the sale done without the PM. Giving myself the "Co-owner" tag on the Thread seemed to help with this slightly so it stuck. If you can look at the 'edit' logs, I'm sure you'll see that it was I that put it there.

I tried VERY hard to meet the expectations of everyone. To improve the trading market and make a better environment for everyone. I only wanted the best for everyone, which is one of the reasons I am a manager of Ultimate Pro Sales for @Spear - I only look to help those that don't have as much in the world. Providing this outlet for people to make a bit of side cash felt really good. And I didn't mind volunteering my time to do that.

I had no control of the actions of Abundy, and frankly I was also hurt in this deal. I poured my time into this business and tried everything I could to grow it and make something out of it. After all my efforts, for the owner to do as he did just breaks my heart. I wish the events could have turned our different but unfortunately I didn't have a voice in the matter. From what people have told me, including getting knowledge that Abundy was trying to sell the business for months to a frequent customer we had (I can provide proof of this), Abundy seemed to have been lying to me since Day 1. It sounds like he is just a shady person and makes his life on hurting others.

I hope we can come to some conclusion to fix this, as I have tried VERY hard here to make a name for myself and I really don't want it all ruined for the actions of someone else.

Thank you for reading,
Collin AKA Worm

 

Waiting to speak with Worm on Skype.

 

After further investigation with your stakes into Abundy Gold we've unbanned you as there was a huge misunderstanding here. Apologies for the inconvenience, and I appreciate your cooperation throughout the entire dispute.