Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

First off, you fail.
Obviously by the number of posts I have on thisthread shows I know about absolute 0. I was asking him to expand on what he said so I could be certain what he was talking about. Second, dont spam the thread for no reason, then state an argument without backing yourself up.
Seriously, dont insult me with useless posts just in order to call me uneducated.
Absolute 0 is an impossible reading, like another user stated, that can be achieved through a mathematical process. What I am now concerned within the fact that if there is 0K, no movement is possible. ThiS, therefore, would absorb? light fragments much to the extent a black hole does. What could 0K do for science, besides disprove alot of theories(Heisenberg?)
Any intelligent responses would be appreciated.

 

Well, at first glance, you seemed uneducated on the topic.

As far as evidence goes, there really isn't any. It's just impossible to have no movement within an atom. If it were possible, our universe would not exist because movement within and atom, and movement caused between particle interactions are a vital part of what makes matter possible.

 

Thanks for your personal comment.
I do believe you are onto something. Movement makes matter possible. Energy, believe it or not, has mass(aka matter). In order to stop at 0K, matter would have to be destroyed, therefore destroying energy. But, we know energy can neither be createdor destroyed. Think...This then leads me to doubt about energy being created or destroyed. Maybe 0K disproves that aswell, and energy can be created/destroyed.
But I'm not a bachelor of science or anything, so I can't have any facts

 

But you have to take into account other theories that disprove common physics. ei. The speed of light, gravity, 0k, etc..

If any of those existed, in theory, all physics that we know today would be off.

 

Thats the beauty of 0K .
It would flip our 1000s of years of physics and other laws on their asses. The entire scientifc community would be upheaved. Will the world resort to chaos?
I think absolute 0 will be one of the most important scientific achievements of all time.

 

Well like I said, any of those would be great. However modern physics always comes out on top to disprove it.

There is actually a ten million dollar award out right now to anyone who can prove gravity.

 

To clear up some misconceptions:

1. You do need a cooler object to make something cooler, IE refrigeration, expansion shrink expansion shrink (gas laws to cool). The really cold objects are created with lasers, I'm not sure exactly how.
2. Dark Matter is entirely irrelevant, it is simply a proposed theory that explain the odd gravitational attractions in some places.

1. 0k could not coexist with any light form, if any moving photon were to appear the temperature would inadvertently rise.

2. If a pink flying unicorn zoomed by at the speed of light, what would happen to modern science?

 

1) yes, I know. I've said that a few times. My last post was in retrospect.
2) jizz in my pants

 

This thread is really starting to get me to think, im going to go phish around and look for what I can come up with to throw into the conversation.

 

maybe if you had a darkhole available lol, only way.

 

Bump, this topic still needs a conclusion/new thinkers

 

I don't believe so, because to cool something down you must have something colder than the wanted temperature.

As it is impossible to get colder than absolute zero, it is impossible to reach absolute zero.

 

Could you please list the reasons as I would be very interested in hearing them

 

Yes, but in order to create something something else must spur it on. So the universe was first started by? The existence of Antimatter can allow absolute 0 to be reached. I know I'm not making too much sense right now. Google antimatter.

As for thepist by gohanforever, read the last 2 pages of posts.

 

You don't need to get under absolute 0, you just have to get to it.


If I put a piece of meat in a refrigerator for 1 whole day, the temperature of the meat will change to what the temperature is in the refrigerator.

 

Likely because the refridgerator coils will be colder than that piece of meat in the refridgerator. As matter cools down to a certain temperature, the rate of cooling slows down the closer it gets to reaching that temperature. If something is exactly absolute 0, then it cannot cool another thing down to exactly absolute zero, leastways not in the lifetime of human beings.

 

In order for the meat to cool, it must absorb energy from the freezer and expel energy into the freezer, creating, after one day, a new equalized temperature existing between the meat and the fridge. In order to cool something, something must have a lower temp than the thing you are trying to cool, Hence, in order to reach absolute 0, you need -1k and 1k, which would balance out at 0k, creating stability and equilibrium. [/ownage post]

 

Sorry for double post I'm on my iPod:0
In a fridge, the temperature remains constant. However, not all natural occurences are at a constant temperature, therefore making your temporary assumption that the rate of cooling slows as the temperature of desire is almost achieved incorrect (or just not cohesive enough). Since temperature does not remain constant under natural conditions, there is a transfer of energy from both sides of said matter. The matter with the lower temp will undergo an endothermic reaction, absorbing more energy than is exported. While the matter with the higher temp will undergo an exothermic reaction, releasing more energy into the surroundings than is obtained in the system.
This then lowers the temp of the hotter (less energy, less movement, less temp) and raises the temp of the cooler (more energy, more movement,higher temp). In the case of the fridge, the meat is exporting energy into the cool air of the fridge, which then exhales that hotter air thru vents etc. Then, cool air is added thru the inner workings of the fridge, therefore creating a constant temperature. The meat cannot cool down past the temp of the fridge, simply because there is nothing cooler to absorb the energy and create an equilibrious environment.
All Iam saying is that your general thesis is poorly constructed and can be forseen as invalid due to the question of temperature as a constant.

 

I don't think so. It does need to be lower than it to freeze it down, but it can change the temperature to the one of itself.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

 

You're wrong as far as I've studied.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_law_of_thermodynamics