Why are these being stickied again?

[Pain]

http://www.sythe.org/digital-currency-non-game-sales/

There are bond holder threads being stickied again, the entire point of THIS:

http://www.sythe.org/digital-curren...-bond-holder-donation-services-user-list.html


Was to not sticky bond holder threads anymore, yet they are again.


My question is why, and to remove the stickied ones.

2 I don't mind, but last time there was like 9 at one point and I cba it becoming that excessive again, which it will.
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[VanillaGold]

They should sticky the 0% fee bond holders (PA/video) just so people don't scam themselves with other bond holders.

 

[Pain]

They should sticky the 0% fee bond holders (PA/video) just so people don't scam themselves with other bond holders.

Sythes a free market... it doesn't work like that lol, just because a service is cheaper does not mean it deserves a sticky over another service.

 

[VanillaGold]

Sythes a free market... it doesn't work like that lol, just because a service is cheaper does not mean it deserves a sticky over another service.

I like the thought of saving other people some money.

 

Doesn't quite make sense to have this thread stickied and have 3 other bond holder threads stickied while neglecting the other bond holder threads. What are the credentials to have a bond holder thread stickied? To my knowledge, everyone on that list are verified bond holders. Since you can't sticky all bond holder threads for obvious reasons, just have the bond holder list stickied and unsticky the other threads.

 

Video stickied OBHs without fees. Makes sense to me to not see newcomers fall victim to Bogdan prices.

 

[Pain]

Video stickied OBHs without fees. Makes sense to me to not see newcomers fall victim to Bogdan prices.

Believe me here, I'm not against avoiding Bogdan prices.

But it is a free market, Bogdan and moes deserve stickys to or no stickys at all, its rather unfair to them that the cheaper guys get stickys lol.

 

The original reason for the consolidation of the stickies into one thread was because there wasn't space. After reducing the sticky clutter in that section, I noticed that there was space for stickies. So I made the change you see now with the approval of other staff members. It's partially in efforts to remove fees from the donation process and partially to reward those that do make their services fee-free. The fee-free donation services are not are not merely offering cheaper fees, they are 100% free. Those bond holders are profitless altogether.

 

Believe me here, I'm not against avoiding Bogdan prices.

But it is a free market, Bogdan and moes deserve stickys to or no stickys at all, its rather unfair to them that the cheaper guys get stickys lol.

I'm not cheaper, I'm FREE. I take time out of my day to do it for free because I don't find the need to see people paying $32 for a $25 rank.

 

[Pain]

It's still a violation of free market though free or not.


It's no wonder moes wanted stickys not to be bumped, at least now I know why.

 

[Daddy Dropperz]

The original reason for the consolidation of the stickies into one thread was because there wasn't space. After reducing the sticky clutter in that section, I noticed that there was space for stickies. So I made the change you see now with the approval of other staff members. It's partially in efforts to remove fees from the donation process and partially to reward those that do make their services fee-free. The fee-free donation services are not are not merely offering cheaper fees, they are 100% free. Those bond holders are profitless altogether.

What Superman said. Donations should be a fee-free process in all honesty; it shouldn't trick new users into paying extra for no reason since it makes no sense. The fact theres a market just to simply donate to Sythe just seems ridiculous - it should be completely phased out. I'd recommend giving those who are bondholders a 5-10% comission of the weekly donations they get for Sythe directly from the owner or something. Cuts out all the bs of people having to paying more for something that shouldn't even had a fee, while also keeping it competitive enough for people to offer a great service in order to get a big comission at the end of the week.

 

It's still a violation of free market though free or not.


It's no wonder moes wanted stickys not to be bumped, at least now I know why.

How does it even matter, there's no reason to bump a sticky because it's already on top... The only reason I was bumping my thread was because it wasn't a sticky until I realized video made it one.

They're stickies because they're free, and rightfully so. Sythe never intended people to profit from the OBH rank and so the stickies are rightfully deserved.

 

[Pain]

How does it even matter, there's no reason to bump a sticky because it's already on top... The only reason I was bumping my thread was because it wasn't a sticky until I realized video made it one.

They're stickies because they're free, and rightfully so. Sythe never intended people to profit from the OBH rank and so the stickies are rightfully deserved.

It still violates Bogdan and moes right to a free market, staff don't have the choice to override the entire concept of the free market for a few stickys, even if I agree with providing a free service, its still not the right thing to do.

 

It still violates Bogdan and moes right to a free market, staff don't have the choice to override the entire concept of the free market for a few stickys, even if I agree with providing a free service, its still not the right thing to do.

How do you not understand, there was no intent to make OBH a profitable "service." This will not be implemented because fee-free donations = more donations over all. Sorry you're upset.

 

[Pain]

How do you not understand, there was no intent to make OBH a profitable "service." This will not be implemented because fee-free donations = more donations over all. Sorry you're upset.

It doesn't matter if its meant to be profitable.

The fact at the end of the day is that your both bond holders, and your being given a distinct advantage over other bond holders which violates the market, period.

There's no disputing that point, idc if moes is 1% or 100% over donation price, they still have the same rights you do, period.

If that's staffs argument then I might aswell go request that everyone that's cheaper then arcus gets a sticky in the gold section.

It doesn't MATTER if it was MEANT to be profitable, ur still the same RANKS and YOUR being shown preference over THEM because YOUR A CHEAPER PRICE.

THATS a violation of the free market.

 

[Daddy Dropperz]

It doesn't matter if its meant to be profitable.

The fact at the end of the day is that your both bond holders, and your being given a distinct advantage over other bond holders which violates the market, period.

There's no disputing that point, idc if moes is 1% or 100% over donation price, they still have the same rights you do, period.

If that's staffs argument then I might aswell go request that everyone that's cheaper then arcus gets a sticky in the gold section.

It doesn't MATTER if it was MEANT to be profitable, ur still the same RANKS and YOUR being shown preference over THEM.

THATS a violation of the free market.

There's a huge difference between being cheaper and being completely free.

If anything, maybe this is a sign of the phasing out of the revolting system for donations we currently have of paying like $125 just to have a $100 rank.

 

[Tyler]

It doesn't matter if its meant to be profitable.

The fact at the end of the day is that your both bond holders, and your being given a distinct advantage over other bond holders which violates the market, period.

There's no disputing that point, idc if moes is 1% over donation price, they still have the same rights you do, period.

How is a group of people that are picked arbitrarily that gets special privileges considered free market?


The only reason I'm not stickied is because I still take fees for paypal, Which I might remove from my services altogether

 

It doesn't matter if its meant to be profitable.

The fact at the end of the day is that your both bond holders, and your being given a distinct advantage over other bond holders which violates the market, period.

There's no disputing that point, idc if moes is 1% or 100% over donation price, they still have the same rights you do, period.

If that's staffs argument then I might aswell go request that everyone that's cheaper then arcus gets a sticky in the gold section.

It doesn't MATTER if it was MEANT to be profitable, ur still the same RANKS and YOUR being shown preference over THEM because YOUR A CHEAPER PRICE.

THATS a violation of the free market.

1. It isn't meant to be profitable.

2. They decide they want to profit from it, they have the disadvantage of not being stickied.

3. There is no "market" for donations it's a service directly for Sythe.org.

4. They don't have "rights," they waive them when they try to profit off of a service that they are doing solely for Sythe.org and not themselves.

5. You're looking stupid at this point, gold is a market, bond holders aren't a market.

6. I'm not a cheaper price, I'm free. That was the whole point of the OBH rank.

 

[Pain]

At the end of the day it doesn't matter if your free, yes bond holding is a service but its a service the bond holders have a right to profit off of equally without discrimination on their prices.

I would argue that by your words that a cheaper skilling service should be stickied for the same reasons you just presented.

Just because somebody offers a cheaper service, does not mean they should get the perk of a sticky and hurting everyone elses service that does charge.



"they have the disadvantage of not being stickied if they want to charge" yeah okay because that's how a free market works, railroad the expensive services, sticky and promote the cheap services, seems legit.

 

[Tyler]

At the end of the day it doesn't matter if your free, yes bond holding is a service but its a service the bond holders have a right to profit off of equally without discrimination on their prices.

What are you even talking about?

I would argue that by your words that a cheaper skilling service should be stickied for the same reasons you just presented.

Except ANYBODY on sythe can do a skilling service. Not everybody on sythe is a bond holder.

Being a bond holder is privilege not a right. I really dont get why you cant comprehend this.